MERP is a total conversion modification of the Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Explore Middle-earth in a fully open-ended environment like you've never seen before. Play races like Elves, Men, Hobbits and Dwarves and take part in the War of the Ring.

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January 2013 update for MERP covering the new year and the current legal situation.

Posted by Epoch_MEB on Jan 6th, 2013

Happy new year everyone!

Its been a while since the last news post, so we thought we'd make a new one for the new year just to give everyone an idea of where we are at currently. Don't worry, we haven't gone anywhere.
We all had a lovely Christmas over at MERP HQ, its been quite quiet, but then again, we've had no work to do. Hope you lot a had a great Christmas and New Year too!

So, the bit every one wants to know about, how is the C&D situation going?
Well, we were in contact with WB's attorney before Christmas, but haven't spoken to them for about a month due to the holidays. We hope to get back into negotiations soon, but because of their other lawsuit with Tolkien Enterprises, we've been swept under the rug a little. It looks more hopeful than a few months ago, I'll put it like that. The negotiations are currently under an NDA, which is why we don't post much anymore, but the team are still actively fighting for MERP.
The petition also just surpassed 26 000 signatures, which is just mind-blowing, we never thought we'd even get a fraction of that, so Thank-you so much for getting so many people on board and for your continued support on here and on out Facebook page.
We hope to be able to tell you more about the situation as soon as possible.

In other news:

  • MERP scored in the top 50 mods of 2012
  • Happy Birthday Tolkien! (January 3rd)

That's all for now, but we hope to post more soon!

-Happy new year from the MERP team

PS: RecoveryAnonymous, you are an absolute legend, all the medals to you :D

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maxgame Jan 6 2013, 10:23pm says:

WB is full of nazis, floozies, and people like the US NRA

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faulk Jan 8 2013, 7:24pm replied:

What's wrong with the NRA? Or do you support a fascist federal government violating the constitution by disarming lawful citizens? You sound like a NAZEE

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davo001 Jan 12 2013, 7:59pm replied:

whats wrong with them?
they're preventing change in america that could really benefit that country and why?
so they can keep their big guns that make them feel like tough men

they cling to the 2nd amendment which was adopted over 200 years ago, times have change from when america was young and fragile and laws have to be updated or thrown out if they dont relate to the present
you have police to protect your homes and a powerful military to protect your country. being oppressed by a dictatorial government doesnt look too likely either so why do you need mil-grade weapons?

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faulk Jan 12 2013, 10:21pm replied:

You are a true idiot. You would deny people the right to defend their lives against criminals. Do you realize that the police do NOT have a duty to protect you? Of course, you live in the UK, aka 1984-land, a place where if you express the "wrong" ideas on facebook you're thrown in jail. We Americans understand that if we allow the government to suspend our second amendment rights, soon other rights will also be taken away.

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davo001 Jan 13 2013, 7:04am replied:

ok, just live with your cowboy mentality, if you want to maintain your 'right' to shoot each other then go ahead.
us gun crime statistics are in the top 5 worst in the world(population accounted for)and 1984-land is way way down the list with a tiny fraction of yours(i say 'yours' but your profile says portual so :/ )

lol thrown in jail, you obviously dont know the state of our jails. we havent got room for people convicted of GBH never mind desktop revolutionarys.
and most ideas are tolerated unless they incite hate or violence which i completely agree with

if your police arnt protecting the public then do they really just spend all day at donut shops?

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faulk Jan 13 2013, 9:17pm replied:

Lawful citizens wish to maintain their right to defend themselves and their families against people that want to hurt them. That is logical and commendable. Your perspective says that lawful citizens cannot be trusted and that the government should have a monopoly on lethal force. You detest freedom.

You think, "If some gang of thugs beat the **** out of me and burn down my home, the police will save me!"

Yes, we saw how brave your police were during the London riots. And what did the ordinary civilian have to defend themselves and their property against marauding "youths"? Baseball bats! That'll scare 'em. ;-)

You just repeat the platitudes you hear on the BBC (the mouthpiece of the elites who hate you). You don't have a thought of your own.

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davo001 Jan 14 2013, 9:03pm replied:

why do you need assault weapons to defend youself?
that is what your government seeks to ban

no i dont expect the police to be on hand to protect me like private security but they investigate and arrest the person responcible(if possible)
i have been on the ****** end of several crimes(break ins, assaults, ect) but is the answer to shoot them?


there is a thing called escalation, if homeowners carry guns the intruders will carry guns
if the police carry automatic weapons, the criminals will carry automatic weapons.

by keeping our country unarmed we lower the pressure on criminals to carry firearms and yes if a guy stands up to you with a baseball bat and you arnt carrying a firearm then you will think twice about assualting his home.

its amusing that you refered to the uk as 1984-land when your mentality and that of the majority of america is still stuck back in the 18/19th century with the wild west

lol your ragging on our police? i wonder how many people would have been shot by yours if they had faced those numbers with so few police.
to put it in perspective; one old man was pushed by an officer because he was in the way of a riot police line.
he happend to die from a weak heart due to the trauma.
the officer was then crusified by the media for just doing his job. lost his job and faced time in prison.

in your country cops can shoot a guy and be back on the job in yer,our police are more careful to use force on civilians because they dont want to be forced in to measures that would cost them their jobs

right, its late and im tired(of this and just in general)
i have just got back from the pub so forgive me for any typos ive missed

its obvious we'll never agree so have fun in your world of guns and 'freedom'

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faulk Jan 15 2013, 9:33pm replied:

Sorry. If someone wants to beat the **** out of you, the answer IS to shoot them. You can be seriously maimed or crippled by some violent thug that attacks you. I live in an awful ghetto in St. Louis and I have no faith in the police to protect me from psychopaths. Look up "knockout king" on google if you want to know the type of people around here.

Besides that, an "assault weapon" ban is just the first phase of gun control. The marxists want to ban all civilian ownership of guns. Anyway, you're right that I won't persuade you and you won't change my views, so it's best to leave it at that.

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MRWahdy Jan 16 2013, 12:36am replied:

This is quite possibly one of the worst things to happen to a MERP update.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
That is the second amendment. It was adopted from the English Bill of Rights, because in England, the right to bear arms was considered a natural right. Funny how you mocked Davo--I would recommend that you take a basic history course.

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MRWahdy Jan 16 2013, 12:37am replied:

A few points:
1- The writers of the US Constitutions and "founders" were all heavily influenced by John Stuart Mill and NOT by Ayn Rand, lol.
2- "a well regulated militia" refers to what we now consider the National Guard, State armed forces, the Police--basically, all well regulated militias lol.
3- No one is really making an argument to ban all weapon sales or to "take" guns away. The argument for policy to reduce gun violence stems from the fact, yes this is an empirical fact, that a greater exposure to guns (more guns in more hands) leads to more cases of gun violence.
There has recently been an argument that the states/cities with the greatest gun control laws have the greatest amounts of gun violence--but that is just a simple logical fallacy, lol (post hoc). The states and cities are adapting stronger gun control in an effort to reduce gun violence. It is because of the violence that the laws have been passed, lol.
Another argument that has floated around is that the removal of guns won't stop "bad guys" from doing "bad things." That's another simple fallacy, more of a red herring and nonsequitur than anything. That's like saying that men who commit rape will commit rape regardless, so why should we have anti-rape laws?
An even more absurd argument has been the "we need guns to protect us from our GOVERNMENT who is going to round us up and put us into FEMA CAMPS!" I can't even begin to tackle this because it is a demonstration of how asinine and stupid, how weak of a mind, how completely enveloped in epistemic closure the individual is, that the best thing to do is merely to point and laugh.

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faulk Jan 17 2013, 1:58am replied:

"the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Yes, who are these "people" whose protected right to bear arms will not be infringed upon? Are the "people" those people that the federal government decides are allowed to bear arms? Or are they all citizens whose rights are clearly defined in the constitution? Do you think anyone disputed civilian ownership of guns when the constitution was ratified?

"An even more absurd argument has been the "we need guns to protect us from our GOVERNMENT who is going to round us up and put us into FEMA CAMPS!" "

What sort of idiotic strawman is that? Anyone that believes that guns are an effective check on government tyranny is a nutcase worthy of contempt? Sounds like you need to study political science (not to mention history) a little more. Expecting people to have blind faith in the benevolence and incorruptibility of the government is incredibly naive and stupid. You want to curtail people's ability to resist government tyranny.

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MRWahdy Jan 18 2013, 7:19pm replied:

Just to demonstrate how dumb you are, let me break it down for you:

1- there is already standing legislation that limits the sale of certain weapons.
2- we also aren't allowed to own nuclear weapons (what better way to deter a tyrannical government than a nuclear weapons in every law-abiding citizens home should they wish?)
3- the government has a monopoly on violence (the bedrock on any free and stable society) where a social contract, like the constitution, provides a framework for a representative democracy. (basically, tyranny is a non-issue in a rep. democracy where the majority of the citizens still uphold their civic duties).
4- that wasn't the intent of the second amendment (re: slave patrols)
Need I continue?

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Epoch_MEB Author
Epoch_MEB Jan 21 2013, 2:01pm replied:

We cannot edit or remove posts on this section, but for gods-sake stop. Do not start a political flame war on here or you'll both end up with a ban.

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Bubbleteatroopa Jan 7 2013, 5:21am says:

About time!

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faulk Jan 7 2013, 10:38pm buried:


WB = HITLER! (that means they're very bad).

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TheNodCommander Jan 8 2013, 11:32am says:

Good luck guys!

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rocknroll237 Jan 9 2013, 5:08am says:

Keep fighting guys! \m/

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davo001 Jan 10 2013, 7:28pm replied:

because they dont currently have a large scale rts of lotr out there for third age to overshadow

merp conflicts with lotr online in their minds

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Epoch_MEB Jan 12 2013, 4:12pm replied:

The Third Age Total war is also released, you can't un-ring a bell. Once its on the internet, you can't do anything about it.

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Belend0r Jan 10 2013, 9:51am says:

It will all be good. Good luck, MERP team.

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SwordMaiden41 Jan 13 2013, 2:26am says:

Good luck, MERP! We are all behind you. You have my sword!

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ParadoXeX Jan 16 2013, 10:18am says:

Just as I was getting bored of skyrim. I happen to stumble upon this god-given opportunity.

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vormaen Jan 19 2013, 2:11pm says:

I hope to continue working for you guys as soon as possible.

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Epoch_MEB Jan 21 2013, 2:02pm replied:

We hope so too, and to finally be able to give you some work :P

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Sopranoss Jan 19 2013, 4:49pm says:

You have my heart.

Seriously, this mod would be everything that LOTR fan could have expected. Such open world that Skyrim provides, quests, and everything turned into Middle-earth experience. I hate WB for even touching this matter, they should provide you with support not with some hatred that they wont be able to earn something off this. There has been... like none good games based on Lord of the Rings, except that RTS and maybe MMO but that is barely. This would be really good, based on material you have provided us.


I hope you succeed in this battle.

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jhardingame Feb 10 2013, 12:40am says:

I was personally unaware of TE's lawsuit against WB. I hope everything works out for you guys. Everyone on the Ethas team is rooting for you!

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TheUnbeholden Feb 18 2013, 8:53am says:

Yes fight the good fight, its time we got a real LOTR game that can give Tolkien's work justice. Everybody that plays games and is a fan of Tolkien is and will be behind you all the way!!

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wrathofchrist Mar 4 2013, 1:08am replied:

As appealing as that sounds, accepting any sort of donation would just create more legal hassle and is definitely not worth any kind of consolation that the money would bring

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hobbit_lass Mar 23 2013, 12:48pm says:

Nice to read an update. Hope you guys can keep this going! You have my support!

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moizzz Apr 12 2013, 5:58pm says:

Would love an update soon.

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MisterAmbidextrous Apr 16 2013, 12:23am replied:

Thank you very much for you contribution! :) Tell your friends and all to take a look and sign the petition if they feel its the right thing to do.

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justinsimons May 5 2013, 11:06am replied:

no mod ever costs

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Anglachel May 20 2013, 9:09pm replied:

MERP is not dead. You're actually killing it yourself with such ******** comments, because you're helping WB in achieving its goal (taking out the fanbase)...

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grimawormtongue May 22 2013, 1:01pm says:

how on earth is it possible to have the right to an idea... that doesn't make any sense. it tolkien would have lived to see these things he would not agree with warner bro's that's for sure....
and another thing i don't get is why warner idiots did not make this game a long time ago since a lot of people want this sort of ganre in this universe for ages...

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grimawormtongue May 22 2013, 1:03pm says:

o and what i think is funny btw is that no one heard any response about this form bethesda.... i think they are laughing at WB

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LOTRisAWESOME Jun 10 2013, 7:10pm says:

a question with the merp of oblivion:
Why when I try to open merp oblivion.exe tells me that stopped working?
I did everything the tutorial told me also patch oblivion exe

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