A conversion mod for ZH with three new factions: S.H.I.E.L.D., Hydra, and the Avengers. S.H.I.E.L.D. is relatively simple - Use the conventional base and faction mechanics. The Avengers will take some balancing - A Tower (and maybe a warehouse or two for cash) that produces the heroes and upgrades and unlocks as the game progresses to make them stronger as the conventional teams get stronger. Hydra will probably be a mix of conventional and custom mechanics. Defiantly using the cut defector power to show double agents and probably a barracks purchasing mercs.

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A conversion mod for ZH with three new factions: S.H.I.E.L.D., Hydra, and the Avengers.

S.H.I.E.L.D. is relatively simple - Use the conventional base and faction mechanics.

The Avengers will take some balancing - A Tower (and maybe a warehouse or two for cash) that produces the heroes and upgrades and unlocks as the game progresses to make them stronger as the conventional teams get stronger.

Hydra will probably be a mix of conventional and custom mechanics. Defiantly using the cut defector power to show double agents and probably a barracks purchasing mercs.

Please provide feedback - Think this is a good or bad idea? Please tell me why, so I can improve it.


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CT-4288
CT-4288

This game needs a star wars mod

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CalebHawn
CalebHawn

Yes it does!

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Zeke_Dlyoung
Zeke_Dlyoung

Here you go: Gamewatcher.com

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KlingonDragon Creator
KlingonDragon

How about a Star Wars Vs Star Trek mod?
(Something I've had in the back of my mind for a while)

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CalebHawn
CalebHawn

Seems pretty cool, and the last thing I'd have every thought for Generals. Can't wait for the release!

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Razoredge125
Razoredge125

Your mod sounds cool. When can we see first picures of some units?

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KlingonDragon Creator
KlingonDragon

Hopefully, by the end of this week.

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jazzthebest
jazzthebest

Wow sonneh. Looks like adamproxdude33 and ZOMBATAR! made love and had a baby :V

But even those two could show in-game results of their modding

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ZOMBATAR!
ZOMBATAR!

@jazzthebest Is that a good thing or a bad thing for me? lol

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superfeatheryoshi
superfeatheryoshi

Seriously? Not only are you recruiting for team members on your first post, but you're actually asking for IDEAS?!

I'm sorry, but that's just not how it works. You can't expect other people to make your mod for you, especially since you don't even have a mod yet as far as we know. All we can see now are a few half baked ideas and some extremely rudimentary concepts. You're gonna have to do better than that.

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viper213
viper213

I have to admit you do have a point so many mods have decent idea but fail right at the start. this seems to be like all of those that have failed before I wont belive in this mod until I see some progress.

and a small tip to the creator respect your fanbase and be respectful to their ideas otherwise you will not be liked and your mod will not be as sucsessful. all the ebst mods their creators listen to critsism and take it on board and don't ignore it

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KlingonDragon Creator
KlingonDragon

I'm listening. But it's not constructive to just lost things saying: come back when you have something.

If you want to suggest ideas, I'm all ears. Just don't attack me.

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viper213
viper213

Alright i was gonna suggest characters like iron man and his suits for example the hulk buster ect ect. But tbh i would rather take my ideas to a mod that out where the dev team take all critism on board and reply kindly instead with oassive aggresssiveness. I would much rather go to a mod such as shockwave, retareded or contra. Before i go to those mods i will give you one last but of advice dont as people for ideas, you have a basic concept but thats pretty much it. I either see this mid becoming dead like many others on here or becoming a mod that may be popular but outshone by other mods with larger teams and who take advice

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KlingonDragon Creator
KlingonDragon

how large a team do you want? We have almost a dozen people working on this.

If you haven't noticed, when people did suggest things I discussed it with them. When people attacked me for not having enough to make the mod page I returned in kind.

I'm open to ideas and suggestions. I'm not open to victimisation.

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KlingonDragon Creator
KlingonDragon

This is just a cut and paste of the forum post I made weeks ago.
Just because I don't put every single little bit of code I write and a complete transcript of all the conversations between team members, doesn't mean I don't have a mod.

The ideas was more a: what would you like to see in it? kind of question.
Most of the staff is assembled. We only have a couple more staff members to add (in minor areas).

Is it not a good idea to be prepared? Perhaps the page was made a week too early. Does this page or post hurt you? Why react?

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superfeatheryoshi
superfeatheryoshi

If you have a mod, why don't you show us something more substantial?

Also, pretty sure SHIELD doesn't have Arc Reactor technology.

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KlingonDragon Creator
KlingonDragon

I'll show something more substantial, when I want to show something more substantial.

As for the arc reactor: Fury had Howard Stark's old plans for an arc reactor. He gave them to Tony. Do you really think, in all that time, SHIELD wouldn't try to develop that technology.
Also we're making a mod for a game. We need power production facilities. That seemed the most logical choice. All three factions were going to have arc reactors (probably with different designs).

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superfeatheryoshi
superfeatheryoshi

I'm... I'm speechless. You're saying you don't WANT to show off your mod? Well, then I guess you can't really blame others for not WANTING to support your mod, then.

Also, SHIELD only has the blueprint for a _component_ of the Arc Reactor. And they couldn't even figure out how to make that until Fury gave it to Tony Stark. How come I know more about the MCU than you even though I've only watched like half of the movies?

Yes, you obviously need power production buildings for a CNC game. But CNC games stopped giving every faction the same power plant since... What, Red Alert 1? Having multiple factions use the same power plant is just lazy, since power plants reflect the philosophy and technological level of each faction.

Take Zero Hour for example, China uses nuclear reactors because of their focus on nuclear weaponry and traditional technology. US uses fusion power to reflect their technological edge. GLA doesn't use power because they are a guerilla force with a heavy focus on non-conventional warfare. The same is true for all CNC games: GDI and Allied power plants use clean fuel, while Nod and the Soviets don't give a **** and use environment polluting nuclear/Tiberium power plants. The Empire uses high tech chemical plants while Yuri uses ominous people-in-jar since he's a evil mastermind.

It's not like it's that hard to think up unique power plants anyway. HYDRA can use Chitauri tech, and SHIELD can just use turbine power plant.

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KlingonDragon Creator
KlingonDragon

It takes time to make a mod. And if I came on here with a fully developed mod that no one liked i'd have wasted all that time.

I want to make a mod that people will want to play. One of the best ways to do that is to get their input. Like what you're saying about these arc reactors. That's helpful.

And why shouldn't I give HYDRA arc reactors. They had a working arc reactor during the Spanish civil war. And what other MCU power production is there? We're still in the early stages. This is what I wanted. Input from the community.

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superfeatheryoshi
superfeatheryoshi

Sigh... Look, I know what you're getting at, but this isn't a forum. You really should have finished the "asking for input" stage before posting something here.

Also, I read the comic and couldn't find any mention of HYDRA having an Arc Reactor. Even if they had that kind of tech, it was most likely lost when Zola died. It would make far more sense for them to use Chitauri based power or even Tesseract energy.

Also SHIELD could just use turbine generators, since the original Helicarrier is turbine powered.

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KlingonDragon Creator
KlingonDragon

I was just getting the HYDRA arc reactor from the MCU wikia (I haven't read the comic it refers to). It does only say that it was arc technology and not an actual reactor.

I can see where you're coming from with the Chitauri, but I don't know if it will fit with the rest of the hydra faction (that one is the one we're having most problems with).
SHIELD had the Tesseract. And they 'lost' it before the HYDRA uprising. 

I like the idea of the turbine generators but that's essentially just saying: Power Plant. In almost all power stations, electricity is generated by a turbine spinning a magnet in a coil of wire. The turbine can be driven by a variety of methods (Wind, Water (in a dam or heated by burning coal or oil), Donkeys, etc.).

If you want to put in more input please visit the website and go to the forum page.

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