Fortress Forever is a Source Mod inspired by Team Fortress. Our independent team has created this mod entirely from scratch. Fortress Forever should please those who have stuck with or been a part of QWTF and TFC over the years while at the same time doing more for new TF players than any prior Fortress attempt.

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Instead of taking team fortress classic and improving it in a new original way without it being a copy paste of TF2... instead they decided to remake team fortress classic... exploits and all.
Scout still feels weak, medic is still unusually powerful. The maps are rather underwhelming..

Bunnyhopping, all I want is a option to disable it. Any server that has disabled bunnyhopping would automatically have a tag that says "bhop off" so it wouldn't hurt anyone.

Quake was designed for strafe jumping, and rocketjumping so it was a core design for that game.
Team fortress classic on the other hand had a huge fanbase, "Conc jumping" was a part of competitive TFC play during its first two years of release (2007-08), but all the newer things that where discovered like "bunny hopping", "skimming", etc... was not. Most people who were playing the game in 1999 quit after the new exploits were discovered. The game became less about teamwork and more about who could figure out how to move 2-3x as fast through the maps. Why bother grouping up and working as a team when you can just outrun everyone? Why bother using Scout when every other class can move as fast?

Valve tried to correct the exploit in the patch. Unfortunately it couldn't be removed completely. It was reduced as much as possible without having to change the engine.

A lot of the current TFC crowd obviously thinks that TF2 is made for n00bs because it doesn't keep all the old exploits. The thing is that as fun as TFC is, it has serious balance problems. Valve knows this and is attempting to give us finely tuned balance and emphasize teamplay. But TFC definitely needs a gameplay refresh instead of a direct port with graphical enhancements. Giving the people who dislike TF2 an option for something a tad more serous.

The FF team says they made an effort to get more new players, but it's obvious after playing the release that it was tailored just for the tiny TFC community post 1999.


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