Eastern Front is a free mod for Company of Heroes. Following the ethos of mimicking a Relic Entertainment expansion pack, Eastern Front has succeeded in adding two full new factions, the Soviet Red Army and the German Ostheer, packed with unique and exciting units to the existing armies - a feat never before achieved in the Company of Heroes world.

  • View media
  • View media
  • View media
  • View media
  • View media
  • View media
Media RSS Feed Report media Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz (view original)
Flakpanzer IV Kugelblitz
embed
share
view previous next
 
Post comment Comments
TheSoldier
TheSoldier Oct 28 2012, 9:34pm says:

Ah, the epic AA tank that never made made it into war. :)
Looks great!

+10 votes     reply to comment
Walki Creator
Walki Oct 29 2012, 5:19am replied:

Damn somebody noticed it! :D

+6 votes   reply to comment
ubermensche Online
ubermensche Oct 28 2012, 9:46pm says:

I'm not complaining about this awesome vehicle but why not the Mobelwagen or the Flakpanzer 38(t)?

+1 vote     reply to comment
blackbishop Author
blackbishop Oct 28 2012, 10:12pm replied:

@ubermensche
Mobelwagen wasn't used in the Eastern Front, besides it wont be useful as it needed to be static and unfolded to fire IIRC. I already wrote in the description why the other wasn't suitable ;).

+3 votes   reply to comment
Velancious
Velancious Oct 29 2012, 7:03am replied:

But wasn't the Kugelblitz also not used on the Eastern Front? It didn't even serve in the war; it was still in prototype stage with only a handful of tanks made.

Just pointing this out.

+2 votes     reply to comment
BurroDiablo Creator
BurroDiablo Oct 29 2012, 8:59am replied:

At least one fought against American forces, the vast majority however are unaccounted for. Nobody can be sure how many were made, being so late into the war, but we're assuming they went to aid in the defence of Berlin. Do we know that for sure? No, we don't. But we can assume it for the purpose of having such an fantastic unique unit in game.

+2 votes   reply to comment
Sturminfantrist
Sturminfantrist Oct 29 2012, 9:00am replied:

Kugelblitz was not used in Service , only Prototyps built! Only One turret is ,iam not 100% sure i think in Wehrtechnische Studiensammlung ( of German Army)Koblenz preserved. But for Gaming K.Blitz is the better choice because it used the fast firing Aircraft Gun MK103 also used in Gunpods under German combatplanes like of FW190A or the famous Hs 129 B-1 Tankdestroyer. Its not Historically correct but a very welcome addition for EF and by far better than Möbelwagen because KB used a armored turret

+5 votes     reply to comment
Caselius
Caselius Oct 29 2012, 9:15am replied:

Even there was some prototypes, atleast one of em saw combat near town Spichra, also some sources said that they were used in Berlin.

+2 votes     reply to comment
BurroDiablo Creator
BurroDiablo Oct 29 2012, 9:28am replied:

Again, so many conflicting stories about the Kugelblitz it's hard to tell which one is correct. However - Network54.com Mihla.de suggests at least one saw action.

I'll add that the Sturmtiger used in the Warsaw uprising was also a Prototype. Prototype =/= Not used in service ;)

+2 votes   reply to comment
Sturminfantrist
Sturminfantrist Oct 29 2012, 10:25am replied:

Thats the same argumentation like with IS3 but when u see the thinks from this point , why u dont add the MAUS , one Maus was send to fight against the Russians ,But please do not misunderstand me ,iam very very pleased with this addition (Kugelblitz). Think that ur are right, thats possible, sometimes retreating units aquired everything thats useful , and wehrmacht used everything at hand in mid and late war so also Tiger P prototyps and MAUS !!! was send in combat and also older Typ training Tanks, Beutepanzer ...... , same with Luftwaffe were Fw190 D11/12 prototyps/evaluation aircraft were assigned to combat units. But Kugelblitz is not a serialprod.Tank and never in widespread use .

+4 votes     reply to comment
BurroDiablo Creator
BurroDiablo Oct 29 2012, 10:53am replied:

Well, we have to draw the line somewhere XD I beleive the Kugelblitz is that line. But it's good to know you're pleased it's in, it was a balance team suggestion to include it.

+2 votes   reply to comment
warhammerchaosgod
warhammerchaosgod Oct 29 2012, 11:02am replied:

I second this. Rather make the Maus a reward unit for the King Tiger or Elephant later on(in a patch, maybe?) to keep things spicy. That would make this mod perfect and would perfectly draw the line right there. Other than that, sh*t's incredible!

+2 votes     reply to comment
BurroDiablo Creator
BurroDiablo Oct 29 2012, 11:23am replied:

Maus would be incredibly difficult to balance and opens another giant can of worms over what we are willing to include (in this case, Superheavies). If the Maus is ever added, it certainly won't be available for MP/Skirmish.

+3 votes   reply to comment
GeneralCH
GeneralCH Oct 29 2012, 12:28pm replied:

Guys, the KB was only added for gameplay reasons. It was the only vehicle left that worked different to other AA tanks and was not a simple copy paste of already existing axis tanks.
At least the KB served in the war and there is proof, unlike the IS3, which there is not proof at all.
Maus doesnt fit into coh, because it wouldnt work different to KT.

+3 votes     reply to comment
blackbishop Author
blackbishop Oct 29 2012, 1:00pm replied:

@warhammerchaosgod
Maus is a completely different unit from a King Tiger or Elefant, let alone it is not needed at all. It is fine to keep things "spicy", but adding too much spice will be unhealthy for our mod.

Kugelblitz was added because from a balance perspective was needed.

Maus won't be used in EF MP/Skirmishes and we won't change this because this unit(kugelblitz) was approved ;).

+3 votes   reply to comment
warhammerchaosgod
warhammerchaosgod Oct 29 2012, 3:05pm replied:

I understand. Thank you for the replies :)

+2 votes     reply to comment
Panzert
Panzert Oct 30 2012, 10:07am replied:

I don't think the maus should ever be added in any way, shape or form. It was a near immobile brick with a load of firepower and really would not fit into the gameplay at all.

+3 votes     reply to comment
Zombik
Zombik Feb 8 2013, 1:30am replied:

there was at least 18 Sturmtigers built.Small series production that was.

+1 vote     reply to comment
crazychameleon
crazychameleon Oct 30 2012, 5:17pm replied:

what about the IS-3 that never saw combat too

+5 votes     reply to comment
Lloydyboy
Lloydyboy Nov 2 2012, 5:55am replied:

IS-3 saw combat in the last days of the Battle of Berlin, after that they were sent to fight the Japanese in Manchuria but since they rushed through so fast the IS-3s didnt reach the frontlines in time

+1 vote     reply to comment
blackbishop Author
blackbishop Nov 2 2012, 12:32pm replied:

As said in one of the comments below, if you want to use Maus in EF, then use the combiner mod from the NHCmod Team.

Maus won't be ever added to MP regardless you point to Kugelblitz or IS-3 as not properly being used in WW2.

+3 votes   reply to comment
Zombik
Zombik Feb 8 2013, 1:31am replied:

only IS that saw combat in Berlin is IS-1 and 2

+1 vote     reply to comment
blargtroll
blargtroll Feb 12 2013, 1:11pm replied: +1 vote     reply to comment
WaffleAndy
WaffleAndy Oct 28 2012, 10:15pm says:

Whoa love that blue gun powder effect

+4 votes     reply to comment
Beddalla
Beddalla Oct 29 2012, 7:03am says:

That tank looks great! I love tanks that preform like the Ostwind and Wirbelwind.

+2 votes     reply to comment
firefish
firefish Oct 29 2012, 10:45am says:

Nice one.... But would't it be somewhat better to release relaese Ostheer now and add such things later?

+2 votes     reply to comment
BurroDiablo Creator
BurroDiablo Oct 29 2012, 10:55am replied:

No, not after the v1.0 Soviets debacle. When the Ostheer is released it will be in a balanced state with all preliminary assets intact (vehicle models, weapon models, buildings, skins, etc)

+4 votes   reply to comment
willychong8921
willychong8921 Oct 29 2012, 11:26am says:

Maybe the camera is a little to off to show the Kugeblizt's signiture dome shape attached turret, I mistakenly thought it is a Panzer 38t until i noticed the dual cannon. Another screenshot please, just for the kugelblizt! :D

+2 votes     reply to comment
moraman
moraman Oct 29 2012, 11:40am says:

I love the look of this unit. Sadly, it never entered service. But was it's advantage of it over the Ostwind and the Wirblewind?

+2 votes     reply to comment
GeneralCH
GeneralCH Oct 29 2012, 12:32pm replied:

It served in the war, among all the other prototypes. However it was planned to replace all other AA tanks of this time, so it was very sure to be entered mass production. So imo it was not really a "prototype" anymore.

Its faster firing and covers a much bigger area than the other 2 you mentioned.

+2 votes     reply to comment
Velancious
Velancious Oct 29 2012, 9:22pm replied:

I imagine the Kugelblitz was the successor to the Ostwind and Wierbelwind so it can be expected to be better than both of them.

+2 votes     reply to comment
crazychameleon
crazychameleon Oct 30 2012, 5:18pm replied:

it didn't have an open topped turret so people couldn't through grenades into the turret and artillery was evermore deadly. They had open turrets as the flak43 and flak38 created lots of smoke

+2 votes     reply to comment
Timgao929
Timgao929 Oct 30 2012, 2:35am says:

Wait a minute, so they will use the blue tracer 2cm rounds?
By the way, will you give the T-90 AA tank green tracer? I have little idea of what kind of tracer Soviets used back in WW2, but after the war they used the green tracer. Will, guess I am too attached to cold war and modern stuff...

+2 votes     reply to comment
Frenchy56 Online
Frenchy56 Oct 30 2012, 2:19pm replied:

Correct,the tracer color depended from the material it was made of.

+2 votes     reply to comment
crabx20
crabx20 Oct 30 2012, 10:53pm says:

To my knowlage only about 7 prototypes were built. 5 of the prototypes were used to deffend berlin. The other 2 have alot of contreversey on what happened to them. I think you should make it to were you can only call in 1 per round to try to make it more historical accurate.

+2 votes     reply to comment
blargtroll
blargtroll Feb 12 2013, 1:18pm replied:

Not going to happen, It will be a buildable tank just like the Panzer 3. Don't like this, go play blitzkreig. This isn't Anal-Retentive Hardcore Historical Mod Number 43, Its Eastern Front, The devs are never going to sacrifice game-play for Historical Reasons, That's stupid as this is a game and not some WWII reenactment.

+1 vote     reply to comment
wrogumiastbram
wrogumiastbram Nov 1 2012, 2:03pm says:

If you want to have maus, play combiner mod.

+3 votes     reply to comment
Timgao929
Timgao929 Nov 2 2012, 4:33am says:

Will if you guys are so frustrated with the prototype nature of Flakpanzer Kugelblitz, think about the 3,7cm Flakpanzer Ostwind. The Ostwind was just another prototype that never made it into real mass production, but yet it is in the CoH. The CoH is NOT a serious military simulation game like ARMA and Silent Hunters series, it is more for the masses than for hard core military simulation fan such as myself. Well, to be honest, even I love the CoH, because one can not only live with serious simulation games and 100% accurate historical datas.

+8 votes     reply to comment
CadianConscript
CadianConscript Nov 3 2012, 11:36am replied:

Hear, hear! =)

+2 votes     reply to comment
Lloydyboy
Lloydyboy Nov 2 2012, 5:58am says:

Wont it be hard to balance this sort of vehicle, since as everyone else says its the same gun used in Focke Wulfs and Tank Hunting Henshcel 129s

wouldnt it decimate tanks with its effective rapid firing cannons?

+2 votes     reply to comment
Sturminfantrist
Sturminfantrist Nov 2 2012, 8:46am replied:

Believe me against the Soviet Army we need this sort of Punch, i dont know which Weapon VCoHs Henschel 129B used it depends on subtyp designation after the B- ,MK103 or MK101 or the famous PaK40 7,5cm gun used in late war, no Tanks can withstand the latter one

+3 votes     reply to comment
Timgao929
Timgao929 Nov 4 2012, 1:36am replied:

About the BK7,5 you have mentioned, I think 3,7cm BK 3,7 or 30mm MK101/103/108 are pretty much enough for anti tank-role, given not even the most recent heavy tanks like Leopard2A6+ or ZTZ-99A2can take-on 30mm AP pounding their roof armor. The 7,5cm BK7,5 on the Hs129 in the vCoH was more an overkill. If you still think BK3,7 was weak, look at Ju87 Stuka ace Hans Rudel's killing frenzy with 3,7cm guns.

+2 votes     reply to comment
Sturminfantrist
Sturminfantrist Nov 4 2012, 1:49pm replied:

Thats right but Rudel used G2 Stuka Version with 2 Bk3,7cm in wing gunpods this weapon is never used in Henschel 129 ,only one little series Me/Bf110 used this weapon too, with wolfram core Mun this weapon is very potent and penetrate almost every Soviet heavy when fired from above on engine deck, for Hs129 only BK7,5 MK101 and MK103 were used and MK108 was only used mostly as a Anti Bomber weapon in Me 109, Fw190A8 R2 or R8 (Rüstsatz) as so called "Sturmbock" heavy Fighter and last in Me262A1a Schwalbe Jetfighter (4xMK 108) or Jabo version Me262A2a (2x MK108) so MK108 is not suited for ground attack or anti tank role. I agree with u that BK7,5 is not necessary also only one little series of this Version is produced think about 20 or so at late war

+1 vote     reply to comment
blargtroll
blargtroll Feb 12 2013, 1:22pm replied:

But you all are forgetting, the planes are attacking the tanks from above(I.E. The thinnest armor on the tank). The Boys .55cal Rifle can pen the top armor of a KT. The KB isn't Flying in from above attacking the top armor is it?

Meaning this tank is worthless against medium/heavy armor.

+1 vote     reply to comment
TyXo
TyXo Nov 20 2012, 8:04pm says:

This tank isnt made on the pz IV chassis, right ? Its on the PZ III/IV like the Nashorn ? The front armor is a little more angled than pzIV

+1 vote     reply to comment
Walki Creator
Walki Dec 2 2012, 2:32pm replied:

No it's based up on the PanzerIV chassis (that's why it's "Flakpanzer IV")

+1 vote   reply to comment
TheGreatKill3r
TheGreatKill3r Dec 23 2012, 6:34pm says:

and will you introduce the Elephant as a playable unit....can be used as a very good AT gun

+1 vote     reply to comment
blargtroll
blargtroll Feb 12 2013, 1:29pm replied:

...

1. The "Elefant" will be in game as a doctrine reward, IIRC. Its a German name so you spell it like the Germans do, Otherwise you end up confusing people who think: "WTF Elephants were in mid to south Africa, and in India. Not in Russia!".

2. Its a 8.8cm Pak 43 L/71 On the Porsche Tiger Hull, I.E. a Tank Destroyer. Its not an AT Gun, as AT Guns have a crew that lift the gun's legs up and push it around the battle field.

+1 vote     reply to comment
Post a Comment
click to sign in

You are not logged in, your comment will be anonymous unless you join the community today (totally free - or sign in with your social account on the right) which we encourage all contributors to do.

2000 characters limit; HTML formatting and smileys are not supported - text only

Description

Ostheer needed an unit of this type, and because we didn't want to use the Ostwind or the Wirbelwind because they're Relic's and due to Flakpanzer I and Flakpanzer Gepard variants were not being suitable to be treated as late game armoured units, we have chosen the Kugelblitz(besides, it looks awesome).

Model and textures by BurroDiablo, animations by Walki.

Image Details
Type
Demonstration
Date
Oct 28th, 2012
Size
1680×1050
Options
URL
Embed (big)
Embed
Share
Report Abuse
Report media
Add Media
Members only