Imagine a world where the Allies didn't win the war, nor did the Axis. Instead, the war just continued on and on in an unsteady stalemate. Welcome, to the world of 1949. In this world Germany decided not to bomb London, but instead continued its attacks on Britain's airfields. Then, the Russians lost at Kursk. Finally, D-Day fails. With these victories, Germany has managed to halt the Allie's progress. In the Western Theatre, the Allies and the Axis each plan the invasion of the other's vital territories. In the Pacific, Japan and the United States are dueling over tiny islands with giant fleets and atomic weapons. Now, the stalemate is about to be broken. Germany is preparing an all out invasion of Britain. As tough and valiant as the Allied troops defending the Sceptered Isle are, some of their leaders are beginning to that they will be unable to hold against the Wehrmacht.
The Panzer IV is now using MrScruff's "Gray" skin in the 1949 mod.
Think they'd still be using P4s in 1949? I would imagine the Germans trying to retro-fit them like they do with all their other older tanks. (38t became Hetzer, some Marders from P3/2, Some of the E-series were going to use older chassis)
You are sure, but you may know that Germany used outdated vehicles for antipartisan duty.
For example, the Hotchkiss H35 was used until the end of war for this rule in Yugoslavia. Also, some Hotchkiss where modified to create the Marder I.
That is a really sick Panzer IV though I do agree that Germany might already have outclassed the entire series. If anything, Panthers would've replaced them (they are Panzer V after all).
I would also like to see some future tanks that Germany made (possibly off their designs they were going to make) or use tanks like the Maus to be their new Super-Heavy tanks.
I think Panzer IV's then would serve as an early game armor spam unit until one can build all the later tanks. Just saying because we are dealing with a future war where it never ended and the factions would've most likely have gotten new powerful tanks.
They did. Panzer IVs have just been stockpiled, that's all. These things cost less than vanilla Stugs do, if I am not mistaken, and come from the same building. As for your wanting to see more modern weaponry, well, let's just say I'm working hard to make sure that my next update will sate your hunger for new material.
Another cool addition would be to replace the pak38 (which should really be a pak40 anyway) with a pak44 as the new standard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12.8_cm_PaK_44).
Also replacing the 88 stationary gun with the flak 40 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:12.8_cm_Flakzwilling_40_1.jpg)
Lastly maybe some-kind of gas-mask suit or exo-skeleton mech things (like in that Turning Point rts). Just spittin' out some random ideas I've had for awhile.
yes have the 88mm as a start unit XD
jsut one question what will the us have to counter the heavier armor like panthers king tigers maybe panther 2 and e 50s will they get the patton and the m103 heavy tank or the t 29 , cause pershing will be still useful but if you use a realistic dmg system it will be obsolete as soon as panthers and king tigers start roling out of the factories even if you use vanilla coh dmg system it will strugle, maybe increase it speed and reclasify it into a medium like they did in RL and make a super pershing model and call it heavy ;)
pershings were perfectly capable of killing both the tiger and the panther from range. they should be still useful against the majority of german armour used in this game. the 90mm was a beast and its armour was heavy enough to take a hit from the 88 at distance. the super pershing wasnt really that big of a jump aside from the xtra armour plate
Just a suggestion from me. If the Germans have Maus and other strong tanks like Tiger2's etc , could you add maybe T28 or T95 super heavy tanks to the Americans? Just an idea and yes i know they are slower than a bike but their armor could be the only thing holding back German guns.. (T95 305mm slighly sloped frontal plate , side 152mm sloped makes it extremely hard to kill like a Maus)
Yes i know the link says T28 but the T28 did not have 4 tracks and these bigger sides , this is T95 Upload.wikimedia.org
The T-29 may be in the campaign. America has the M-46 and overwhelming numbers of less advanced weaponry for most other situations.
Ya since they still own europe and like half of russia you would think they would have enough raw material to make panthers the main tank but by now the engine design would be redone.
I don't understand why people want to include Maus in this mod. They stopped developing Maus in 1944 since they realised that it wouldn't work. It was too heavy. If they didn't think it was good in 1944 they wouldn't think it in 1949 either...
m 103, super peshings, pattons and t110s this is what us needs to fight off larger german e series and maus tanks
By now they would have implimented he E-sieres.
they said this will be a earyl ingame unit like imagine it like thsi in vanilla coh you get a m8 greyhound as an earyl ingame armored unit now you will get this XD
Wouldn't it be more mid-game? After the armoured cars but before the tanks. Like the StuG.
this will apear before and cost less than the vanilla coh stug ;)
That doesn't make sense. A tank which has superior AP abilities and a similar cannon then the StuG comes BEFORE it.
Surely it would make sense to place it after the StuG.
look a vanilla coh stug costs more than a 1449 mods panzer 4 so that means stugs will either get removed or be even cheaper a substitution for the panzer 4 will most likely be a panther or a tiger 1 since this is made up reality and late ingame units wont be tigers but maus and e 100 tanks and sorts so panzer 4 CANT be a midgame unit anymore or hevens sake even a late ingame unit so therefore it will be cheaper but since i have no busines with this mod and am just telling you what lord wifelby already said and what i think wil most likely happen more accurate data isnt yet available since not even the devs are sure what they will do ;)
Actually I was more expecting them to be converted into StuG IVs like Pz.IIIs were. Upgun them is possible to make somethine old into a deadly weapon.
i give up !
Away from all that, it would be less likely for Panzer IVs to be the same. They would take the chassis' and see what they could make, most of it would be StuGs.
no most of them would be jagpanzers stug 4s were produced in very small numbers and if the germans did have so many panzer 4s i agre that they would most likey convert them into somethign else like the jagdpanzer 4 since that was one of the deadliest TDs in the war. I hope stugs get removed cause it really wouldnt make sence for them to be in the mod
StuG IVs can carry the StuH 42 cannon, it's a mobile howitzer which would be easier to make then a Sturmpanzer IV.
An assault gun is a useful weapon, but it should never be mistaken for a tank in how it is used. Jagdpanzer IVs will be in-game, and they will be available from the same building, and they will be a little more expensive. The Panzer IV is basically a light tank now, useful for operations against Shermans or enemy infantry. It is a balanced approach early tank that isn't incredible, but it can get the job done.
The Panzer Elite use the E-series, since it is a recent development. The Wehrmacht uses older tanks that have been uparmored, upgunned, or are only available because they have been stockpiled in sufficient numbers. Stugs are no longer available in-game. This is partially due to balance, since Germany now has three Sturm Armory vehicles: one focused on anti-vehicle operations, another on anti-infantry, and finally, the Panzer IV, which is the in-between option.
u should do a panzer IV with Schmalturm and 7,5 cm KWK L/70
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that would amke alot more sence to me than the standard panzer 4, here s a betetr picture
Google.si or thsi with the panthers turret
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The Panzer IV was one of the best workhorses of the Wehrmacht. In 1949 I could imagine that Panzer IVs still find their place in the Army. Upgraded with better Engines or maybe even Longer barrel. (Better engines could also result in better armor)
Also they experimented with Panzer IV turrets on Panther chassis since the Panzer IV turret does have a lower profile. They would mainly find use for urban areas and mostly as Anti-infantry vehicles. Of course with short barrel then. Maybe they would create different variants like an enclosed infantry transporter or something?
But not in the Main tank role or as Tank vs Tank vehicle.. except early Shermans.
I wonder, if there would be something like E-25 Standartpanzer, like a modernized Panzer IV as light battle tank. E-50 and E-75, they are not that problem, but E-25 as battle tank there were no plans for it, but somehow I miss it, that E-50 was main battle tank.
These E-series will be great and when americans are using shermans,why no more pz4's?