Imagine a world where the Allies didn't win the war, nor did the Axis. Instead, the war just continued on and on in an unsteady stalemate. Welcome, to the world of 1949. In this world Germany decided not to bomb London, but instead continued its attacks on Britain's airfields. Then, the Russians lost at Kursk. Finally, D-Day fails. With these victories, Germany has managed to halt the Allie's progress. In the Western Theatre, the Allies and the Axis each plan the invasion of the other's vital territories. In the Pacific, Japan and the United States are dueling over tiny islands with giant fleets and atomic weapons. Now, the stalemate is about to be broken. Germany is preparing an all out invasion of Britain. As tough and valiant as the Allied troops defending the Sceptered Isle are, some of their leaders are beginning to that they will be unable to hold against the Wehrmacht.

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bartpp7
bartpp7 Jul 23 2011, 1:04am says:

whats the difference between the normal one and the jumbo?

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jovian95
jovian95 Jul 23 2011, 1:30am replied:

The amount of armor it had. As far as i know anyway.

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Jul 23 2011, 4:45am replied:

thsi had a 100+ frontal armnmor and stronger side armro, it was also less reliable and slower

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jackback7900
jackback7900 Jul 23 2011, 1:44am says:

the jumbo was like the heavier version of the normal sherman, and it lasted longer then the normal one in battles

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CyrilMay
CyrilMay Jul 23 2011, 2:56am says:

as i remember, "Jumbo" had also 105mm howitzer or gun (not sure about that) it's role was to support attacking troops and destroying strong points.

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Lloydyboy
Lloydyboy Jul 23 2011, 4:23am replied:

no jumbos didnt have the 105... however some jumbos were fitted with the M1A2 76mm, the same 76mm in the Easy Eight

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βéϯд
βéϯд Jul 23 2011, 4:34am replied:

That would be Sherman with 10'5cm though they were just normal shermans with 105mm

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QuakeRiley
QuakeRiley Jul 23 2011, 8:30am says:

Wouldn't it be a 76mm Jumbo?

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stukatankkiller
stukatankkiller Jul 23 2011, 2:48pm replied:

much more likely since the 75mm gun would be almspot uselles in 1449. normal sherman shouldnt appear ingasme anymore aswell only easy eights and they could also add an m51 super sherman and make up a story behind it, that would eb awesoem and much more useful in 1449, who knopws what the shermans variants would look like in 1449 :)

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QuakeRiley
QuakeRiley Jul 23 2011, 3:35pm replied:

Wasn't the M51 Super Sherman from the 70s? I believe the M50 Super Sherman was 50s.

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Lord_Wiffleby
Lord_Wiffleby Jul 23 2011, 9:54pm replied:

Regular Shermans are still in-game. Why you may ask? 1. They are cheap and easy to produce. 2. THEY ARE CHEAP AND EASY TO PRODUCE. Shermans are not entirely obsolete, but they are weak. However, you can build them in droves in order to overwhelm your enemy with sheer numbers. The American army will have some new toys, but the M4 Sherman is still in service, though variants are available.

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p*a*t*t*o*n
p*a*t*t*o*n Jul 24 2011, 2:26am replied:

there is no reason not to continue using the sherman, as the isrealis used their super shermans effectively and successfully against russian-built t54/55s and t62s in their wars with the arabs. it is entirely concievable that in an alternate universe such as this the allies would still be using upgraded versions of older equiptment in regular combat

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GriffinZ
GriffinZ Jul 27 2011, 6:29am replied:

the 75mm sherman is kinda to bad isn't it? Easy eight as the standard tank and the (perhaps with super sherman uppgrade) would feel much more fitting.

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N3mesis
N3mesis Jul 30 2011, 7:03am says:

If you can build this vehicle very very early its good against infantry and light vehicles. But for late game its nonsense somehow. Even against heavy German vehicles
Germany would also upgrade vehicle Engines and electric engines on their tank turrets. So that they are faster at any point. In other words to encounter the mobility problem German tanks always struggled with except some.
A Tiger II in 1949 (maybe Tiger II Ausf.C or better) would have better engines and transmissions and would be more mobile. Of course the Armor would also have better quality compared to the real Tiger II armor on the end of the war in 1945 (mostly because of resources, Panzer IVs, Tigers and Panthers -mostly early vehicles- had better quality steel then Tiger IIs back then).

So in other words the Allies really need something beyond the Pershing or SuperPershing. The P51 for example was Designed by a German, maybe the USA or allies take advantage of German engineers they captured somehow. And they are able to encounter new German threats this way.

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QuakeRiley
QuakeRiley Aug 1 2011, 12:02pm replied:

The Tiger II was slow because no engine was fast enough, simple as and only a few MPH might be added.

The US get the M46 Patton.

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boxmanking
boxmanking Aug 12 2011, 1:31pm says:

The sherman Jumbo has more armor that's what made it special

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Maus_ace
Maus_ace Oct 13 2011, 3:42pm says:

If USA gets Patton than Germany must get E-50.

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Correction: this is Halftrack and Tank Destroyer's Jumbo Sherman, with some stat tweaks, in 1949.

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