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Hopefully the sound fix helps me out, for some reason, NS2 sounds incredibly quiet compared to all my other games and I have to +10dB it on my Receiver for it to come through clearly, but even then it sounds quiet.

While most things @ -15dB sound loud.

Actually was just one map, if you listen to the video, he says he is not remaking it.

Though he said he may consider it, with fan support.

Every game has a right price point. I can't see 29.99$ selling alot of copies.

10$ difference, but I've seen so many people who go "Eh, it's only 20$, I just won't eat out one night of the week"

That 10$ brings down a magical barrier. I'm trying to convince them for their sakes as well.

Would you rather they sell 10,000 copies @ 29.99$

Or 20,000 copies @ 19.99$. Double exposure, more profit. basic business economics here. 100,000$ more, and twice as many people talking about it.

It's all about the pricing. It can make a huge difference; just look at Steam sales and the results Valve have gotten.

Not demanding they be cheap, or free.

I'm saying they have to be realistic.

I know they have costs to cover; I want them to do well, I've followed the mod since it was first released and played it alot.

I was super excited at a possible 14.99$ or 19.99 price-tag.

At 29.99$, not so much. I have no doubt it'll be very fun.

But at that price point it simply won't sell.

And their fanbase? Responding to Darklord. Sorry. AoC has a fanbase, no doubt, not a larger one. NS had one as well, years ago, it is a fraction.

Both dev teams need to realize, sure, it's not fair...but there are expectations with Indie devs.

UW went crazy and I don't really care if they go belly up. They decided to make a complete AAA Engine, with little to no budget, even though they had a Source version they could have finished, then with NS3, they could have done an engine, with proper funding.

They've missed release dates several times. Their costs are far greater than C:MW's team as well.And yes, they now manage a 24.99$ price.

It's close, but the 19.99$ price tag has made many games a success.

Killing Floor was one of them. IT was hailed as a 20$ wonder, that people who didn't want to shell out for L4D1/2 could enjoy.

However, let us look if KF had decided to go 30-40$, nearly L4D's price, do you think it would have sold nearly as well? Not at all...would it have been a worse game? No, just not a good enough game for the money.

This is your first Indie title! You can't go charging 30$

First indie game should always be in the 20$ and under range.

Natural Selection 2 is making this mistake as well, look at it! 34.99$

Look @ RO1, sold excellently, @ 14.99$, but RO2 was 39.99$ and sold like crap. When it went on sale for 19$, it sold more copies than release by 2x!

Go for quantity! The lower the price, the more people that will "Eh", buy your game because of it, the more people that can spread the word, the more sales you'll get, sell more, at a lower price point, and more profit in the end, as well as more publicity.

This kind of price just isn't right...

You want your first title to sell a lot of copies, at a low price point, simple marketing here. So your name, your style of developing is known, so that your next game can be sold for a higher price point, as it's more in demand.

War of the Roses is coming out and it's like 20$ on Steam right now. (If you own M&B), not the same gameplay of course, but the same game-type and setting.

You need to be competitive, with aggressive pricing. I just don't think it will sell that that price.

You think because it's MP only, 30$ is fair, to the normal 59.99$, because it's half a game...but it's also an Indie game, even if this had a full SP, you couldn't charge 59.99$ or 49.99$ for it.

Not being offensive, just realistic.

What the hell is this processing ********?

I want to know when to Pre-order for 19.99$.

Wait, 29.99$?

Don't make the same mistake as Red Orchestra 2 did, please! Don't!

They look high quality as well, but only time well tell.

Ahem.

ValveTIme got slapped on the hands for leaking Black Mesa stuff and it was quite public about the war going on between them.

So VT's review...who wouldn't expect it to be bad?

Uh, no.

Just in the original Half-Life alpha and beta versions, Gordon was going to have a beard & Ponytail at one point.

Poor voice work?

That is when I stopped believing the review.

IT was the most out-standing Voice acting I've heard from a non professional game, beating many, and it sounded at times as if they had the original Voice Actors except Eli. I've played HL1 over 10 times to completion. Sure, there are most likely people who've done plenty more, but I felt Black Mesa is as close as you could get to HL1 in Source.

Low quality sound effects? Huh? They shocked me as I found them to better than I thought they would have been.

Performance is rather bad, yes. I see times where my CPU & GPU at below 50% usage or so.

Also, load time? Huh? It loads faster than HL1 for me. Nearly instantly, I see "loading", then one breath, and loaded.

I think you just have a slow HDD. I have a SSD.

I think you guys just have stupid high standards. No one could do better; not even Valve, and I truly believe that.

**********

Just to be clear; I don't think Black Mesa is like the super best mod evars and it can do no wrong. There are certain parts that obviously just aren't up to the original.

But this review is stupid harsh. It's like because your ValveTime, you felt, to appease the old crowd, such as myself, you had to hate on it or so.

Very odd; that or I don't even know if ValveTime has any old gamers there, or are just new gen gamers who played HL1 in 2007 and base it all off that.

Having played HL1 10 times as I said, I see so many subtle nuances it makes my heart flutter. Little details most people miss, but having played it so much, I notice, and that BMS team captured...just amazing.

What? It was a MP5 in HL1.

Half-life.wikia.com

This weapon is first obtained at the start of the Half-Life chapter "We've Got Hostiles".

There was never a UMP 45 Holo.

This is better than the hype I've had since this project was announced.

Everyone said it wouldn't live up to the hype - it exceeded it. Crazy quality here.

Just...wow. Some things have been changed, like when you get the Crowbar, or your first gun, and while slightly annoying, it's ok.

I like all the subtle ques about why characters aren't around.

Seriously, you guys could start your own studio, license out the Engine, and make your own original IP...risky, but I'd say it's worth it.

Joining Valve is an option; if they'd have you, but I'd say go the other route for once...take the hard rode and go Indie.

Also

"Aw man, you cut the pony tail!" line got me. I laughed and knew oh so many people would not get it.

Why is the torrent 3GB and the .rar's on here nearly 4GB?

Compression?

Professional developer?

And what did I do to you?

And I never say "This is ****" or anything so basic. I elaborate on what I don't like.

One heck of a Live Stream he had. Was amazing.

So you found your free copy?

AWesome!

Had this since December 2010, so I get an upgrade to Deluxe & a free copy for a friend?

Good to spread the word.

And I'm glad to see you took in the suggestion on the price; I'm sure it was not me specifically or anything, but I often argued in all news posts to lower it to 24.99$.

As for the extra copy, when do we get that? Have a friend I want to play it...I didn't get an email.

I can't believe the Steam Greenlight page has people complaining about Underhell.

Considering 3-4 days before, almost every mod available for Source went on it, and Mxthe waited to get a "OK" from Valve, unlike other mods, including NMRiH, and none of these mods have complaints aobut a mod being on Steam Greenlight...

I find it rather offensive. Tons of HL1, and HL2 mods on it, no one complains about that, but then Underhell goes up, and 5-6 comments about not paying for it, not understanding that it is still free, just to be downloadable from Steam, and general people claiming Steam Greenlight is not for mods, the same people, who OK'ed NMRiH & Cry of Fear & Grey on Steam Greenlight.

Right rack?

Oh, track...

Hmm.

To much bass.

My room was shaking.

Yes, this evolution of Source is very nice.

Can't wait for this, but still have trouble thinking of paying more than 4.99$ for this, even though I played the beta like crazy and told all my friends about it. And was following it before Tiny Human took it over, back when it was like Buraburaumsiu or whatever.

Whew, good.

I have SO MANY OTHER GAMES TO PLAY, I was worried.

Over 6000 downloads in the 3 hours since I posted this.

If this rate could keep up over a few days, who knows?:P

It's dd, no offense, but I've been following this for a long time, but thought it was pretty...unknown, so to see such a surprise amount of popularity is just wow.

Torrents aren't illegal, so yes, it should be ok. Good job.

Taking bandwidth off Moddb as well, so good on that.

Whoa.

ALmost 20,000 downloads and the day is half done!

Impressive!

The 5$ having access to beta would be an incentive; they pay 5$, do not own the game, but play it and most likely love it, then can purchase it. Good all around. You end up getting more money!

Also, 29.99$ final price? I'm worried. That's half the price of a Triple AAA game. Plenty of Indie devs like to make their first release into the 14.99-19.99$ area.

1. Because despite the mod, you do not have an established name or brand, though you did change it to Medieval Warfare to attract the Xbox crowd, which I still dislike.

2. The videos look good and while still early footage, they very clearly do not compare to AAA+ companies. This sounds insulting I know, but it's a simple fact, budget and team size wise, not meant to be mean to you.

3. You're at the start of your companies career, you need word of mouth more than all the commercials in the world. Did you see Section 9: Prejudice, released for 14.99$, SP, and MP, and quite abit of content. It was very popular and a high seller due to this.

Previously they had released the first one for full price and no one bought it. But @ 14.99$ it hit a sweet spot.

I'd say with you, you have to get people to look at your game and go "Eh, it's just 20$", and try it out.

@ 29.99$, they are less likely to. People are fickle like that, a simple 10$ difference and a "Why not?" turns into a "I'll wait for a sale or just not get it."

Simple human behavior.

I'd suggest you look more into economizing your price.

Glad to see it updated, just went and saw it, beautiful.

Disappointed with a few things still though; beta access should be granted for anyone who donates on Kickstarter, up to the 50,000$ point. More people playing the beta can't hurt, more feedback, more word of mouth, and a larger range of systems to test it on.

Also the fact that 150$ dollar tier only includes one copy, while the 75 dollar tier includes 4. Seems plain stupid.

Should contain 6 copies + The extras.

Besides the fact you still ask for shipping on 750$ donations, I'd say you did a bang up job with the new F.A.Q

Made from scratch, entirely.

And Mxthe was telling me this will feature a damage system for you as well.

You can break legs, arms, ect, and you'll now die very quickly.

Yeah, very random ruMpel.