Co-founder and Animation Director for Epoch Games.
Hey, do you mind if I make a suggestion?
With the latest new post on here, you've actually hidden the direct link to the Kickstarter, at the moment you either have to find the last news post or go through youtube. If you want to properly drive traffic, stick a large link on the latest post as well. ;)
Yes, anyone who can help is a good thing.
We already have a petition.
Enpremi isn't a member at the moment, no.
Yeah, that would be a good idea! Prove that its a global community
Unfortunately in America we do it wrong :P (they) I only posted it, it was written by an American team member.
As has been said before, Bethesda will NOT participate in this, they will simply tell us to stop.
Ah, this looks like a better address. Added to the post.
In no way is this a binding agreement. Its an automatic response to show that the email has been received, they have no legal obligation to actually respond if they don't want to.
The map can be copyrighted, since its a recognisable image.
Also 'inspired by' is a legal formality and would need to be decided in court, same with 'fair use' which we are fully. We just can't afford to take it to court to resolve.
A board game is not in direct competition with WB's products, an open-world RPG is however.
You should be able to send one to the LA office from Columbia. No need to do the London one if you cant.
Having no subject will flag it for spam. Just put 'Inquiry' or something ;)
Its not about citizens. EA could infringe these properties and be in just the same situation as us.
But yeah, it is the citizens that get screwed over and lose out in the end.
They make great movies that are a waste of the LotR and Hobbit IP. The Hobbit film was fantastic as far as filmography goes, but it was a shambles of a representation of the book.
Yep, thats one of the places we got our addresses from. It would be even better if we could find some names of the Legal/Game people so we can address them directly.
Correct. IP law is a massive issue at the moment. If I had the power and influence to rile people up and get it sorted, believe me I would. Sadly that just isn't happening, even a viral campaign couldn't fix it because companies like WB own everything and essentially write these laws.
They are ALL illegal. Its just that WB doesnt care about one person adding a weapon they made thats based on the film. The fact that we were making something they should be doing, but cant, is a big deal. Also the fact that just before then we were a massive deal in the modding community and were regularly hitting #1 on moddb. Which obviously drew their attention.
See my answer to this on the main page^
Short answer: Not really.
We've explained this before, but I'll do it again. The TRADEMARK covers names, the copyright covers visuals, music, stories and even ideas. As much as we'd love to do this, WB have expressed their opinion on the idea of removing all names, and we'd also have to remove all recognisable landmarks. This includes the WHOLE map.
And my Banhammer! :P Don't start these damn chains.
Its not particularly hard to tack someone on the internet. Unless you've been absolutely rigorous in keeping personal details away from servers then you're basically screwed. Also they can just ask your ISP.
In all honesty, they wouldn't know for sure that we had stopped. But considering that we are doing it in our free time and don't have the money to put into this, a legal case, court fees and a damages charge aren't going to do any of us a whole lot of good. Better safe than sorry.
We know that from your perspective it looks like an easy answer, but once you've actually talked to Lawyers who know how these things pan out, its a whole different board-game.
But if you were in our shoes, would you really want to risk all this palava again? We'd be far better off just doing the immense RPG and keeping it non-LotR
Sadly no. Bethesda don't want anything to do with it, and specifically say that the modding tools are not allowed to be used to infringe on legal properties. If we alerted them then chances are they would just tell us to stop too.
Letter bombing would only count if you put explosives in the letter, which we don't advise.
This is a completely proven way of campaigning, though I guess you could say the whole business of this is 'in bad taste' mostly on WB's behalf.
The problem is the content, not the engine. WB couldnt care less about how we 'infringe', its the fact that we 'are' that matters.
Its still under authorisation, its coming.
RIGHT. Lets do something then! A news post is currently processing and you'll see what the next step is.
The music is totally ours. Releasing it would give the wrong impression about halted development though.