Taking Professionalism in Modding Too Far blog - korge

Youtubers trolls downvoted you. :/

Deleting your comment would make you win. I don't believe he would do that. I think it would be more wise to let everyone see your ignorance to this good writing and your horrid grammar (I can understand because you are not EFL but seriously, at least spell check it). He is not starting a war vs trolls, that would be useless and cause nothing more then more trolling. If anything is started, it would go to moddb, the source.

Fact: trolls downvote good comments.

Fact: Trolls also write useless comments when they need not be written.

This whole topic has gone to hell. Either read it all and post on what is current or GTFO and STFU.

Hello troll man

I dont know what you are talking about. Did you read this? Its talking about Temporal Cold War using company logos on their media to look like a real game studio, which they absolutely are not.

What they are doing is absolutely illegal but these trolls think that it is ok.

I meant when they are getting sponsored, which it seems they are trying to be. The more professional they appear might make them think one of these companies might actually come check it out and see their logo, and want to give them money to keep them there. Sorry If I was too implied (Vague) with the last one.

The trolls always think its OK.

The question is do you use them to make yourself seem professional or promoted when you are actually not.

It was a joke.

I forgot that some people in the world don't get sarcasm.

It was shown to be a joke after i thought he was right in his blod, then to talk about me having the McDonalds logo on my mod, i think that gave it away...

It's hard to sense sarcasm through text. In text you need hints like over-exaggeration, emotes, and abrupt sentence ends. There was no sarcasm sensed in that post XD.

Alternatively you could just pull that carrot out of your ass, AlCool.

Didn't meant to sound like such an anus there.

If you think I am doing this for attention, you are an idiot just like Gen Kenobi or any other fool who has no grip with reality.

What Temporal Cold War is doing is not only stupid, it is also illegal in every sense of the word. Not only are you making another "star trek" rip without permission, you are plastering company logos on your mod in a manner to give the illusion of "sponsorship."

Get a brain or gtfo.

Forgot to reply about this issue as well. As far as a Star Trek rip off. Please name one mod, fan game or fan film stopped by Paramount/CBS? There is not one, since they know that the fans keep the franchise going. Even MGM have realised that stopping fans from making free mods, games and films was a bad idea, since it is the fans that fill their pockets with the very reason these shows are produced in the first place.

And I love the way someone called KORGE calls us trolls... hahahaha....

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Talk to a lawyer. I can tell that you havent.

But nice to see that you are stubborn. How about we forward your mod to the respective companies in which you brandish and see how they take it. It will be a fun experiment.

Please do...

CaptainSource, I think you should be looking at what Spike_pingasrolled just posted. Those are, and I confirm, actual legal statements given by those companies. Anyone who uses those logos without permission is asking to get into a courtroom.

Your mod can easily get archived for it.

Won't be the first mod to get it from Copyright, and hopefully not the last.

The thing is, I can't figure out why you boys are so worried about the logos being used. Did you want to use logos of companies but are to scared to? or worried for the mod? or have nothing better to do? Not sure. Yes, I have read the above boiler plate legal text, and, until ones voice drops or hair starts to grow in weird places, I can say with great certainty, that if the companies whose logos we have used deems it worth their time, money and effort to do so, we will receive a cease and desist writ. So, unless you feel the need to repeat yourselves again, I would suggest you find something more constructive to chat about.

Like at your ages, how am I going to pay for my tuition in a world wide recession, or should I treat my mum and dad the way I do when they raised me, spent all of the time, money and effort only to find children today have no direction, or idea of what they want to be?

I can tell you right now, unless you are extremely talented, dedicated, hard working and stand out from the slew of self proclaimed video game gurus and professional 3d/2d artists, you will be in the same position you are now. Discussing things you have no control over and about subjects you have not even experienced in life.

I am 42, am old enough to be your dad, or you children's grandfather. I have seen them come and go, have been there and done that, been served by chefs of princes, seen rich men lose their fortunes and travelled more in half of my life than you may in the rest of yours.

The one thing I will not do, is make statements I have no understanding of, and will fight when most men wet their pants. So, chat all you like about the subjects you will. All I ask is that you give credit where credit is due. Give an honest days pay for an honest days work, and keep ones nose out of places they have no place being.

Enjoy your conversation, and no ill feeling toward any of you.

You act like being twice our ages in THIS day and age actually makes a difference to this sort of thing :P

Everyone has their own worries, but this isn't about our personal lives, this is about the misuse of product and company logos in non promoting content.

This day and age is owned by our generation, we will be taking the jobs you leave behind, and we are already well on our way to our future careers.

I for one am working towards a 3D modeler through studies of concept art, 3D art, character design, environment modeling, with a tad of animation, programming, and game design to go with. If you can't keep up to what the last 18 years has brought us, then you won't last in this industry.

It wasn't much of a conversation. More like talking into a clever reply machine that avoids actually answering the question given to it.

*Cheers*

~AlCool

^ Agreed

Just because you computer has the hardware installed does not mean you can throw the logo on everything all willy nilly, and the same goes for software.

It would be fun to see what the actual companies think of their logos been plastered all over stuff that they have nothing to do with.

Thank you! Someone who actually read my blog and managed to put 2 and 2 together.

Very true. I agree and disagree. On Korge's side, he's right that it's absolutely illegal. The disclosure on all the companies' products say as much. But on the side of the opposition, I can see how in practice it probably won't matter. I doubt the companies would care at all that a non-profit modding group stuck some illegitimate logos on their poster. They've got bigger problems to deal with on a day-to-day basis. And I also doubt that anyone would think that a mod was sponsored by an industry giant like Valve. If they did, they should probably be told to go pet a lion.

But that's not what Korge was saying, and people should understand that. He's not arguing whether or not companies would care. (At least I don't think he is.) As I understand it, he was simply explaining that it is, in fact, illegal, and commenting that it is wrong to use others property to further your own popularity. Also, he was talking about modding etiquette, and saying that this practice makes you look like an unprofessional mod group. That's it. I don't understand how anyone can start arguments over undeniable facts that you can go read on paper. :P