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Well now that Cure Optimism's retarded public mental breakdown is done and dealt with, perhaps this group can kick back to civil debating.
Globalization is normally a good thing and has been a good thing historically. Think about the trade between india and the west, the silk trade from China.
Modern "globalization" is understood in different terms but ultimately, the pros out-weight the cons. There's more trade, a bigger market and more consumers.
A good article on its pros and cons is here:
"Knight is a devoted soldier. He has a fierce determination and an intense thirst for comprehensive knowledge. He's intelligent and a bit stubborn. Some people are misunderstood by others..."
I am complemented by this post and after hearing that I should have been aborted, that I should commit suicide and that I'm an "evolutionary drawback" and other such nonsense from Moddb's resident psychopathic atheist Cure Optimism, I think I deserve all the compliments I get for putting up with that moron and keeping most of my cool! XD
And I think you're right, I am a bit stubborn which probably contributed more to that flame war whereas someone like The American could avoid something like that.
As for you Lara, you're clearly gifted with your words and a far better writer than me but I'm still unsure of your motives here. I don't know what your religious beliefs are but if you truly are a seeker in pursuit of honest truth and knowledge then "Atheists, Agnostics, and Anti-theists of ModDB" (aka only anti-theists of Moddb) isn't the place for it.
Despite being named "Christians of Moddb" this group isn't only for us but for deists, non-religious theists, agnostics and people interested in civil debate, discussion or people who just want to learn about Christianity and that includes atheists who don't want to come here to bash our beliefs. Even if you aren't Christian you're welcome here providing you don't start senselessly bashing religion like atheists of moddb.
"CNCRoadkill is a retarded mongoloid."
Then what's so different between you and him?
His style of insults and "satire" are so similar to your own.
Imaginary persecution against atheism you mean.
You atheists are fantasists, more disturbing is that a part of you is wishing to do the same to Christians for what a small minority did to a small group of heretics not atheists.
I'm aware there's good atheists but most of the atheists in that particular group have only joined it to bash religion. The others who aren't active there have clearly joined it just for the label it provides on their profile.
Really, their group's content reminds me of the stuff you end up reading in the YouTube comment section. It's best not to judge an entire group on what you read from such a place.
I'm aware there's good atheists but most of the atheists in that particular group have only joined it to bash religion. The others who aren't active there have clearly joined it just for the label it provides on their profile.
Cure Optimism ain't nothing but a little kid and a terrible troll. I've met more creative atheists who are far worst both in their swearing and in the crap they would post (stuff ranging from explicit sexual comments to making such comments about Jesus or Mary).
I've been exposed to so much of this crap that I can't help but laugh when I meet such a vulgar atheist. I even tell them to continue because it's often entertaining to see what they can come up with (but then that's when they stop, realizing I'm not bothered).
Many of the atheists I've met online are like this. They somehow think that swearing makes them big guys when they are nothing but children. I'm wholly convinced that Frenzied_MetalHead and Cure Optimism are mentally ill from all the stuff they typed today and all their beliefs about Christians seem to come from anecdotes they've heard on Reddit which is sad really, that's why they are posting that gay stuff in the debate group thinking it'll "offend" us.
Hopefully one day they grow up along with all the rest that utterly despise religion to the point where it takes over their lives.
Don't worry, I'm done with them though.
I've been on here for years and I can honestly tell you that I think most of the members in atheists of moddb have mental issues.
Oh look the "free" debate society deleting comments. Or was that you at work Cure Optimism?
Okay I'll leave you alone Optimism, you pathetic piece of excrement. I'll let you get back to your trolling.
You're right but it's so infuriating having to deal with these type of atheists. People like Cure Optimism and Frenzied_MetalHead are a cancer (and I know that might sound harsh but it's true), people like that will hate you no matter how kind you are as a Christian and you witnessed their vile and repugnant comments which were filled with pure hatred. They are cowards who would never say these things in real life and I don't like people like that, it's not about them being atheist.
The atheist group claims I hate atheists but I don't, I hate anti-theists (which is what half of them are) who not only oppose religion but theism itself (just the general belief in a god). Anti-theism is an irrational ideology that inspires irrationality in those that follow it.
But you are right. You are so right. I shouldn't respond to their hatred confrontationally, I shouldn't respond at all since they're not willing to listen or reason.
I'll bear that in mind for the future.
I thought I'd find gossip on your trolling rampage here. Who's the one rambling away like a cretin now? You are, you worthless human foreskin. BTW I wouldn't even call you autistic, many autistic people I know are a lot smarter than you could ever hope to be (and I think you misunderstand autism if you think it's insulting). Take your own advice about throwing yourself off of a building or seek professional mental help, as you clearly need it...
My suggestion is for the last chain of images to be cleaned up since after this is dealt with, they will serve no purpose here.
Look I don't know who the leader of these troll accounts are (but I think it's between Frenzied_MetalHead, Apone and Cure Optimism. All of them are in it certainly) but I suggest they seek professional mental help for this spamming they're doing and the hatred they've racked up against me.
I suggest they seek mental help because they are clearly taking this far too far and too seriously.
Moddb has always meant serious business for many of the guys in the atheists of moddb group but these individuals really are living as if this site is the whole reason to live and apparently I did something to emotionally harm them.
Hopefully therapy will help them uncover the real reason for their angst instead of them directing their pain at me.
As it goes, I'm done with their trolling in this group. I won't be replying to their accusations, responses, images or anything other crap they post here until their ****-stains are cleaned.
So they can continue trolling alone.
Now their image spamming has descended into posting immature gay stuff again. TBH I think Frenzied_MetalHead, Apone and Cure Optimism are all part of it, it's not just one person operating those troll accounts (and a second one has popped up BTW).
This is all to "get back" at me because I emotionally harmed them all in some way. I really cannot be bothered by them anymore. I tried saving that group but it looks like they've taken over it with their spam. Well they're entitled to it and the (hopefully) bans they receive.
What are *you* rambling on about? I simply screen-capped one ridiculous image you made. If you don't like your stupidity being brought to light, perhaps you should think more in future.
I don't think you know the meaning of the word "insecure" but you need to man up you intellectual wimp.
No, matter, your little ****-stain will be cleaned up soon.
Gosh, you are an idiot λpone.
You sure do talk a load of ******** don't you Sanguinius?
I can't speak for the others but I haven't visited your group to start trouble for years. You on the other-hand...
This trolling is from your group and it always has been. Your group started it with the MisterMan123456789 account and continued with the others that trolled our group, visiting just to mock, jeer and insult our beliefs. You dehumanized us and now you're crying because we're rejecting your claims that you're the victims?
You agree because you can't think for yourself. You and your cronies have no evidence these alt accounts belong to me but we just saw Frenzied_MetalHead and Cure Optimism trolling under their main accounts, if that's not proof the trolling is from your group then I don't know what is.
But I agree. Ban them.
"I think it's about time someone just completely shuts this group down because it's clearly gone to the dogs."
So that was pretty much the reason for your trolling? You want to get it closed?
Look you've got your "Free" debate group Moddb.com if you don't like this one. Nobody forces you to come here and see the infrequent images I post in response to atheists coming on our pages making claims that I refute here (i.e "Jesus isn't real" "Christianity caused the dark ages" etc).
The CNCRoadKill account is yours as you've proven with this string of new images you've uploaded.
So basically this whole trolling is all because you disagree with the things I've posted (which did prompt debate from a few people) but you were too much of a child and intellectual wimp to respond civilly so you decided to troll along with your party of fellow atheist cowards and butt buddies (Apone, and Frenzied_MetalHead).
How on earth do you cope in the real world?
Lo and behold I'm being blamed as usual by the atheists there even though they are actively trolling on their main accounts now. "Knight's been doing this for months, knight's being using alt accounts"
Every "alt" account has been banned. My account is still up proving they don't belong to me at all.
There's no reasoning with the atheist group. There never has been. I even left the debating society but then Cure Optimism comes and starts trolling with images about me.
Actually unlike any the people in your group, I've been years here modding. Its you and your group who has spent years bitching and moaning about religion and then crying like children whenever someone responds. Now stop your trolling.
It was never my playground.
I just find it funny how I'm getting blamed for your group's trolling.
"I am going to post troll pictures and say it's Knight's fault and I won't stop until he's kicked out!"
I left this group images back with my last comment directed at Apone. You've continued this senselessness, being duped into believing the claims of Apone.
Continue with your trolling. As I said, I am done with this group, if you ******* dicks want to continue with your trolling against the Christians (well really me) then by all means do so but stop blaming it on me.
And I asked you, how is taking someone to Church forcing a belief onto them unless the priest is literally cramming The Bible down the person's throat?
Classical case of "atheist bipolar" syndrome. The sufferer is civil to begin with but slowly descends into blurting out all the atheist insults we all know and love (i.e "sky daddy", "flying spaghetti monster", " you believe in sky pixies", "christians are all stupid!111" etc etc...")
So the similar generalizations, writing style, insults and ridiculous ad homniem attacks aren't enough evidence that it's you? Okay.
"You are a Christian, so your definition of "proof" means something completely different."
This is the type of **** you were spamming on the Christians of moddb page.
On the off chance that it's not you, you've still proven yourself to be nothing but a mindless troll so we have nothing more to discuss on this matter.
You can debate with yourself and that other idiot Sanguinius.
Actually, no a Christian doesn't have to accept all of The Bible unless they are Biblical literalists.
Most others (like myself) realize that The Bible isn't work directly from God but a collection of teachings, writings, metaphors, poetry, songs, philosophy and Jewish history and oral tradition from over centuries written by different people from prophets to religious teachers.
Unlike the Quran, The Bible itself doesn't claim to be from God. Christians simply believe that the teachings are divinely inspired (like the ones from the prophets).
As for communism and socialism, The American's comment really explained best why it doesn't work. Ultimately, communism is the elimination of true freedom and equality and you've yet to refute that.
For that last statement of mine, here's an image for case in point:
"You can't claim to teach your child to think for herself while you make her hold up a sign to further your own agenda."
You're holding a moronic position still. Dragging a 12-16 teen to Church is forcing them to accept and believe in Christianity how exactly?
There's more to Church than worship as that article pointed out.
If a kid becomes an atheist then him being forced to Church with his parents won't change that. In most of the cases, the parents still take the child to keep up appearances or because they do not trust him at home by himself.
Your position is arguing for abuse where there is none. Unless the priest has the teen in one hand and is pushing The Bible down his throat with the other whilst yelling "ACCEPT THE HOLY SCRIPTURE! EAT IT!" then no one is having any beliefs forced upon them. It's just another case in point of the atheist persecution complex.
It's no different to kids/teens who are "forced" to visit relatives they don't want to see. They may not like it but it's for the family and it's not harmful to them. If they want to moan on r/atheism about it though then tough, their first world problems do not concern me.
"But the Church will preach things I don't believe."
Families and parents who aren't religious will also preach things to their children. No child is free from influence, they're all brain-washed by their parents whether you like that or not. When you have your own child, you will feed him your own beliefs as truth.
I give it two more comments before he launches into a chain of abuse and swearing (as usual).
No more a fairy tale than atheism.
So if the parents go to Church, what should they do with their child? Leave them at home?
Some people would call that child neglect.
You're implying going to Church is harmful when all the studies have shown that it's positive towards children (Catholic abuse cases aside...)
I posted that image in response to Lt.Dann's claim which I refuted in the image. This was the debate group and I was using it for the debates between Christians and atheists before you guys started crying about it.
The "death" of this group is down to your group and their trolling, simple as.
Eh nah, it's λpone. I've got all his comments from the Christian group screen capped and you can head over there now and still see them as his new account.
We're to blame that he feels the desire to keep coming back to this group to be exposed to Christian material.
I think he expects us to just stop talking about God or automatically convert to atheism or something.
Atheist and pope? The only "pope" I can think for that is the Doritopope of mountain dew. I hear doritos and mountain dew is big in the atheist community.
*shouts over to the OP*
Ain't that right λpone?
I hope Mattman doesn't delete this image. It makes a good sarcastic point against those teenager atheists who have complained of being "dragged to Church" for one Sunday as if it's oppression whilst the parents feed them, cloth them and provide a roof over their head.
I'm actually beginning to think this guy is a real atheist and not a poe...
You know a lot on theological matters clearly.
As you've probably seen elsewhere, my field of expertise is the philosophy and apologetics of Christianity.
It's good to finally have someone here who knows their stuff about theological doctrine.
All the different interpretations and doctrines of The Bible bore me though so don't worry, I won't try to ever usurp you from this field =)
Humanity wouldn't get anywhere in the pursuit of knowledge if we all applied this logic to everything.
I'm sure we'll all achieve spiritual and intellectual enlightenment automatically if we reach God so there would be no need to "ask" if the answers to everything we've ever wanted to know are instantly given to us. However, I don't see the problem in seeking for answers down here too.
If we were meant to simply senselessly serve, our brain wouldn't have a thirst for knowledge and answers.
The universe and all that is in it allows for us to study and understand it using science and mathematics. That cannot be merely coincidence.
And I don't believe the idea that one day, God will come down and take the whole of humanity away leaving no humanity left in the universe. I believe humanity will exist for as long as they can survive without being destroyed by nature or themselves. Therefore, all knowledge is essential for humanity's development and understanding of the universe for future generations.
Ultimately, humanity needs to develop technology to one day leave this planet and spread out amongst the stars.
It wasn't a gay joke, I'm genuinely convinced he's after me because he stalks me on moddb everywhere I go. In fact the whole atheist group is obsessed with me. It would be amusing if it weren't so creepy.
You used a racial slur. End debate.
And you think that I'm Hinduman? Heh heh, yeah sure. Whatever you say. I've always attacked you morons directly so I wouldn't need to have an alternative account...your guys on the other-hand? MisterMan123456789, Richard Dawkins, Patches the Atheist etc who all came to this group talking about atheism and anal sex...yeah I think we can safely say they are from your group and that you were involved.
Atheism is a religion, as you keep proving with your preaching. I don't buy your little defence about the email, unless you're always constantly checking your email and what need would you have for that? You spend your life, quite clearly, on this site discussing atheism and your profile is solely dedicated to that. It's clear to most here that you're here to promote your world-view with how you try to bully anyone who doesn't agree with you into submission and you're angry that your only tactic isn't working against people here. "SHUT UP ABOUT MY ATHEISM OR I TROLL U!" Lol
Also, I'm pretty sure you do hold feelings for me with the way you keep stalking me on every group, replying to all my comments...Your fantasy (which, incidentally, is what atheism is) will remain just that...a fantasy. Sorry mate.
At this point, I would ask myself, if I were you "what am I achieving?" because you're only providing banter to someone who loves banter and apart from me, no one else here is even interested in you or this discussion. You're not making anyone mad, your "shock" comments you make in the debate group don't even wind these guys up. They aren't the sensitive zealot Christians who need to wash their eyes out if they see blasphemy about Jesus. Whatever your goal, it failed. Now go run off to Cervi and come back with some new material about how I'm an "evil monstrous xtian" so I can have a good laugh when I return next week to see your instantaneous reply.
Using a racial slur against an Indian is racist, you human degenerate now please leave this group, if you have nothing worth-while to add.
The fact that you instantly respond to people's comments within a few hours of them making them shows that you live an unhealthy life, visiting this group several times everyday just to spread your pathetic atheist religion and oh is it a religion as you constantly prove with your need to preach it. I bet you go to sleep thinking of people in this group and the comments they've been making.
Rather than hating me (as you've confessed so many times) why don't you see a psychiatrist for your beliefs and feelings? You clearly need a mental evaluation λpone.
Or perhaps the "hate" is something else and is simply your inner sexual repressed feelings for me? Don't worry, I get that all the time from you guys :P I suppose I send out confusing messages with the way I spank your ***** in debates! It's okay, you can come out of the closet here. We Christians are actually okay with gay people despite what you've been brainwashed to hear from the media. Some of us here may disagree with homosexuality but we won't hate you for it λpone!
And most of you atheists fall under them too, particularly fundie and racist from my experiences. Don't think we've forgotten the little racist message you sent to HinduMan λpone...
You might want to remember your past sins before you come here acting the big man.
Just goes to show the dishonesty of "journals" like The Free Inquiry which claim to advocate a "lifestance rooted in science, naturalistic philosophy, and humanist ethics" but publishes poorly researched junk against Christianity (quite similarly to the atheist group of Moddb I might add!).
In any case, given all the refutations against the Christ myth conspiracy theory and the historians who mentioned Jesus, I think it's safe to say that Jesus existed and that this is an undeniable fact.
As opposed to you who simply is wasting his life hating against religion...
Since there's no promotion here whatsoever of Christianity, this is just further evidence you're talking out of your *** and taking the whole argument out of context.
No, I'm curious why the particular atheist communities on Pathos and YouTube are ignorant of their own double standards like the atheists on this site too and why they made such a fuss over a few jokes.
And yes, it is about the hypocrisy within the atheist community who, as I said, find it reasonable to attack and joke on religion but get offended when the opposite happens to them. Just look at you for example, you're proving my point.
LOL keep raging. Your tears taste delicious and what does Hitler have to do with The Bible and a bunch of atheist goat-******* in the middle of no-where? XD
Cheers for not disguising your irrational hatred for me though or my "disgusting" beliefs lol!
Nah λpone, you're just making a strawman argument here. This isn't about one atheist making a remark about Katt Williams. This is about a large portion of an atheist community being butthurt over a few ******* jokes made by both Katt and Dane Cook which were aimed at atheists. I mentioned this in the first post and you've taken everything out of context since then.
"Hitler was an atheist! This is relevant for some reason and a criticism of atheism."
Another strawman and proof you didn't even visit the Hitler image. The image simply debunked the claim he was a Christian (a view held by both you and others in your group) nothing more.
I'm not the one here who is ****** mate.
I know you guys on the Atheists of Moddb group literally despise me (heard it from Medusa_Zenovka herself) but when you post such ridiculous crap, don't cry when someone comes along and dismantles it.
You guys make me laugh really, I've already explained that my "attacks" are nothing personal. You're free to leave if you don't like anyone commenting on atheism or refuting any of the myths you hold to be true (Christianity causing the dark ages, Hitler being Christian etc).
I reckon I'll get another angry reply from you though, they're quite amusing really but I think you should quit now as you're not doing any favours for yourself and you've already shown that you've taken everything out of context so there's not much more discussion to be had really.
I simply found those examples with quick Google searches. I'm sure there's many more (probably at least 50 on Hitler) and many more uploaded by you but I can't be bothered trudging through all the lies you guys upload onto the atheist group.
HinduMan made images specifically targeting atheism, mine simply refute claims you've all made. This one is the first exception really.
And I love how you bring up The Crusade one and the Extremism one because those two weren't even aimed at anyone. Actually, the last was about extremism in both religious people and atheists.
In all honestly, only the image "A World Without Religion" was a direct attack.
If you think a general debate on Hitler's religious beliefs is an attack against your atheism then I feel sorry for you son but it wasn't and this means your problems go deeper than your hatred for me. In fact the only conclusion made in that debate was that Hitler was anti-Christian, no one there claimed he was an atheist.
No, you just don't like anyone criticizing atheists or atheism.
Yes, because I'm totally saying all atheists and theists are the same. Only, wait, I'm not. I've already said we're talking about specific groups here (r/atheism and The Friendly Atheist), you're the one who keeps saying this and making it out that there's generalizations going on here.
Every post? I've made numerous posts not even related to religion here and what are exactly my insane myths? The only ones explicitly attacking atheism there were the ones posted by HinduMan (who isn't my alternative account despite your stupid claims that it is). The others concerned the insane atheist myths that Christianity caused the dark ages and that Hitler was Christian, a myth you guys keep perpetrating in your group.
Moddb.com (This one was posted by you)
Moddb.com (The Dark Age ******** posted in your group which my image a while back here refuted)
So if you're not willing to debate the things you genuinely believe here in a open ground, stop visiting if you're not willing to debate. I grew tired of your "you can't criticize our beliefs because we're special!!!"******** a while back.
Do a ComradeWinston and don't come back.
Wow, what an incredible come back. You are truly the epitome of intelligent thought. /sarcasm obviously
Return to your little atheist group if you're becoming butthurt. Incidentally, you've proven my point as did this guy:
It's not even like the search for this comment on the Dane Cook sneezing atheist video was hard as the video is full of atheists butthurt at his joke.
Again missing the point and I'm simply stating the facts unless you care to direct me to Christian sites where a professional writer is ranting and raving about every joke a comedian makes on Christianity.
Don't make a straw-man. I never claimed that this was the views of every atheist and theist, just a certain selection and that out of all of the sites and blogs of theists and atheists, atheists were the ones to respond negatively to comedy aimed at them.
Yet no one bats an eye when someone comes along saying he still believes in the steady state theory or other other outdated/debunked science theories. Besides, the evolution segment wasn't even the entirety of his joke here and many atheists seem to be attacking him because he mocked them, the same way they're attacking Dane Cook (as I mentioned) who didn't mention evolution at all.
Difference is, those theists didn't then decide to go onto their big sites and create entire blog posts about the subject which again brings me to my point that most theists don't care about what some dumb comedian says whilst atheists do.
Contradictory statement there. Either they don't give a damn or they are mad.
That's the point, theists don't care and take humour well. In this case and in the case of the joke Dane Cook made on atheists (where he didn't attack evolution and simply joked about an atheist being made into a Bible from a tree that grew from the compost of the natural burial that the atheist in the joke wished for when dead), atheists didn't respond well to the jokes which were made at their expense. I thought Dane Cook's joke was particularly more light hearted and only really aimed at the annoying anti-theist atheists but apparently (judging from the number of dislikes and comments on the video of his joke) atheists didn't take it well.
I just found this strange seeing as atheists have made a big deal about his act. Just Google "Katt Williams atheism."
No we shouldn't care MattmanDude, you're right but when we have certain companies, organizations and media too scared to say "Merry Christmas" out of fear of offending a bunch of social justice warriors from Reddit, we have a problem and that's political correctness gone mad.
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Obviously colonization of space and other planets is humanity's next logical step. Civilization has always been expanding. Now we have the technology to go beyond this world. This is already a reality with the space stations that orbit the earth. I think the next step will be a base on the moon.
I will also admit here that religious extremists are actually worst than atheist extremists. In the end though, I say "a plague on both your houses!" to them. Any extremist is closed-minded, that's their common problem.
They started The German Faith Movement.
They have. You've given me much to think about. I'm still open minded but I'm more inclined to the theory of evolution than any other idea, although I think there will be a new model developed one day. I think the current model of evolution is wrong especially with human evolution and that a new model will be developed one day.
And obviously things like dating and radiometric dating are estimates. The dating says the world is over 4 billion years old but there's a possibility it could be wrong. I certainly think it's older than 6,000 years old though. Even when I was a complete creationist I was never a young earther.
But the fact the early church saints spoke about the Genesis creation account being metaphorical, at least to me, shows that it shouldn't be a problem if it wasn't a problem to the saints.
What did Galileo blow out of the water? Newton's theories were improved upon by Einstein not Galileo. Newton was a scientist and contributed greatly to physics. It sounds like you have a bias against Christian scientists. You are aware Galileo was still one even after the Catholic Church persecuted him right?
It neither debunks God or invalidates God as the prime-mover but we often see you atheists using evolution as justification for your belief in atheist naturalism.
Is that addressed to me or Mattman? Because I don't believe that. I meant that I can see why some people might think it would undermine God's power but I personally don't.
I'd say that the "secular side" doesn't invalidate what The Bible (and really most religions and beliefs concerning God) teach. The secular side would be an eternal universe (i.e the steady state theory) attempting to set up the universe as something that doesn't need a beginning (therefore eliminating God from the picture) which is exactly what it was for the atheist scientists who proposed it.
I guess The Big Bang would be opposed to theism if you believe God created everything in an instant but otherwise I think it's a perfect example of where science affirms theism.
Abiogenesis would teach that life arose from non-life. Like the multiverse and steady state theory, this is yet another speculative hypothesis that attempts to eliminate a god from the picture. Abiogenesis, however, has no evidence and the Miller/Urey experiment is outdated (source: People.chem.duke.edu) and the whole "life's sparked in lab" experiment concerned human created self-replicating molecules which weren't life after all. Abiogenesis is next to being nonscientific due to how it cannot be confirmed by scientific method and it would be rejected in philosophy (as no sound argument supports the notion of life arising from nothing).
In terms of philosophy, philosophy has always been on the side of theism ever since the ancient Greeks started debating.
No, I meant that I thought there were swimming classes that were strictly for girls.
Yep. There are. I knew my memory never deceived me.
Aren't there swim classes strictly for girls anyway? This seemingly simply uses religion as the justification for separating the boys from the girls but it's something that exists already and no one cares. I see no problem here.
God set down his path through Jesus. A path of love and forgiveness. It's only our fault if we do not follow it but God not interacting anymore doesn't mean he longer cares or no longer loves.
You're an atheist so you believe in no spirit or life after death so naturally you see the death of a child in Africa as horrible. It is, as humans, death is horrible. To God though, the life of a human is brief, and even briefer is their death. God (being God) knows that there's an eternal spirit and that the peace of heaven will make the years of suffering on earth seem like a few seconds if not something that will be forgotten entirely.
To us, death is really death but to God it's not. To God, the death of a physical body (their shell) would be just the beginning of their real life. This belief exists in other religions to such as Buddhism.
If anything, our bodies are but sims, NPC's or avatars which are really willed by our spirits. The death of our characters in video games do not impact us so why should it be any different to God?
It's hard to believe God can love everyone (including ourselves) but apparently he does if we go by what The Bible says. If a murderer and pedophile can beg for forgiveness, turn away from their sin and be forgiven by God (something not many humans will echo) then he's not that bad after all.
But that's what Foxhounde believes sergeant. Every individual Christian has a personal belief on God. This belief doesn't necessarily come from The Bible or even reflect on what God is really like.
I don't think he would be so concerned with something as irrelevant as this and as for all the starvation and suffering in the world: I believe that's more important to God but that God doesn't act for good reason.
I'm a deist Christian and my personal philosophy is that God no longer interacts so we, by free-will, can build a better society and learn from our mistakes.
Another Christian might say that God tackles starvation by working through people. You might say, "well why doesn't God just clap his hands and deal with every problem" but my response would be that this allows people to be tested and that's what life falls down to in the end. A test. It also allows people to do good things because they want to help others. This in turn inspires other people.
Jesus made no promises about physically saving. He even said people will continue to die and starve. The promise he made was about being with people to the end of the age but that doesn't mean that those people won't still suffer or perish. Jesus even told his own disciples that they will die for following him (and they did).
"What type of god allows for this though?!"
Not an evil one. One could argue for him being neutral, unaffectionate but not evil. Starvation and suffering exist because of society's ways not because of God's non-intervention.
No, that's what you think by reading Foxhounde's experience but it's nothing Jesus taught.
BTW since you live in such an area why don't you go and do something about it instead of taking out your anger on Fox? You Clearly have enough money to do something since you own a car.
Which didn't address what I was saying.
It's the fault of the person using the sword.
In this case, North Korea official endorses and enforces atheism. It's their belief that religion is wrong and belief in God is wrong. They persecute on that basis. Doesn't matter if they're authoritarian (the medieval churches were that but that doesn't stop atheists from blaming religion anyway).
Where has he said that? North Korean's are killing religious people due to their anti-religion where atheism is a fuel.
I don't think he was making broad claims. Besides, deleting all the images and the arguments gets us no where.
You have your own group for censorship. Do not bring it here.
It was all civil until ComradeWinston decided not to respond with an argument (as you do in debate) and instead incited an irrational campaign against me and HinduMan.
Hitler was not a self-proclaimed Christian. He was as much a Christian as Charles Darwin but later converted as his Hitler Table Talk written years after his Christian quotes reveal. In Hitler's Table Talk, he is against Christianity.
I don't care about the wars. I'm not attributing the wars to their atheism and anti-religion. I'm attributing the fact that they banned religion and killed religious people to their militant atheism and anti-religious doctrine. That was nothing to do with their political ideologies.
Of course it makes sense for you to use this idea when atheism (as a group) is on trail. When it comes to religion, it's religion's fault that The Crusades occurred (and not the political expansion of the Sejurk's turks empire and how they attacked the Byzantine Empire who sent out a call for reinforcements from Europe) just like it's religion's fault for The Hundred Years' War (which was another political war but this time for control of the French throne and had nothing to do with God just because English and French soldiers went into battle saying "God is on our side!").
There's certainly been hate crime done in the name of religion but most wars have been for secular reasons.
Red Terror killed thousands of people in the name of anti-religion and desire to be free from religion.
Yet they targeted religion and no matter how you dress this up, it doesn't change the fact that the militant atheists banned religion. Pol Pot was another like Stalin who did this.
"Religion was banned, all leading Buddhist monks were killed and almost all temples destroyed. Music and radio sets were also banned. It was possible for people to be shot simply for knowing a foreign language, wearing glasses, laughing, or crying. One Khmer slogan ran 'To spare you is no profit, to destroy you is no loss.'"
I know you'll bring up "see! Other groups were targeted too!" but I'm not arguing against that. Pol Pot and Stalin targeted religious people because (like the extremist atheist) they believed it needed to be eradicated and were spurred by their anti-religious doctrine.
And now the atheists here are trying to censor my comments by down-voting so they can't be seen.
So much for open-mindedness eh?
No but they wanted people dead due their anti-religious viewpoint.
Your source is from an atheist site.
Hitler's Table Talk contains many words from Hitler speaking against Christianity and religion. He also killed many Christians and the Hitler Youth were against all religion.
We are the joyous Hitler youth,
We do not need any Christian virtue
Our leader is our savior
The Pope and Rabbi shall be gone
We want to be pagans once again.”
- Song sung by Hitler youth
As for Stalin:
He too was anti-religious. Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il and Stalin were all inspired by their militant atheism which taught them to be free of religion. It influenced their way of thinking. They wanted to be free of religion and "belief in gods" so obviously they were influenced by what they believed.
Instead of showing Hitchens as the militant atheist. It should show Pol Pot or Stalin.
Hitchens didn't die of prostrate cancer. He went berserk and Harris killed him.
I just read up on it and it's not limited to women or used in the abortion debate. Controlling another's sexuality for the sake of order doesn't even seem the main cause for ****-shaming.
Seems a completely different topic and one I can't care to get into. It disinterests me as much as politics.
My original argument is above. I was simply disagreeing with Cervi's statement and that percentage speaks against his unsubstantiated claim that people are pro-life to control woman's sexuality (but I guess you agree with that hence why you're arguing against me?).
That was not the intention of that post and you know that. You're cherry picking here especially since my original argument rests above. This was concerning Cervi's claim, not the morals rights or wrongs of abortion. You're taking my comment out of context.
I'm sure it exists but I've never heard of it in media proving its rarity as its most often men (or do you disagree with that?).
This would only make sense if most pro-life advocates were male. As it goes, there are many females too who are pro-life so that pretty much debunks this statement.
I can't find the data for elsewhere in the world but according to Gallup, around 57% of women in the US are pro-life.
So unless women want to control each other's sexuality (which I've never heard of), again, your statement here is pretty much groundless.
0:59 LOL I chopped his head off with a bone. That's hilarious.
What sort of stupid question is that?
If you're a **** then I suppose the answer would be no but then we'd be debating about what a **** you are and not whether someone with a disability should exist or not.
If you're saying "should parents have the right to abort a baby with a disability if they learn about it during pregnancy?" then that's another matter. IMO it all depends on the type of disability. If they're being born with one which only mostly constitutes of suffering then I think the parents should be allowed. I don't believe in needless suffering of both the parent and child. However others can be coped with and managed to the point where a person with a disability can lead a normal life.
(I'll be the jerk here.)
inb4 someone says "as always".
The stereotypes of Christianity are:
"YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL!"
"I HAVE BLIND FAITH!"
Saying atheism isn't a logical viewpoint is simply a positive statement and one that I believe that I have affirmed within the article. Let's not beat around the bush. I won't be accused of dishonesty here and I'm writing an article based on logic and science so being direct is the point.
Appealing to emotion doesn't work. While some atheists base their position on emotion, others don't so you need to use their type of language (also mine own) to communicate with them.
You should read "The Principia: Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy" by Newton. It's a beautiful work on how the world and universe functions. Also whilst being scientific, Newton manages to include God citing the necessity of one.
I believe next to explaining the mechanisms of gravity (and the forces of it, i.e mass, acceleration, deceleration, inertial movement etc) it's also (at heart) a logical argument for the necessity of a creator even if Newton mentions the creator in the work only a few times.
Read all of the book and you will have enough grasp on the universe to understand how it works. Impressive for a book centuries old eh? Einstein's theory only revises Newton's theory as well which only goes to show how close he was to correction, imagine what discoveries Newton would be making now with the aid of modern technology.
Just get Einstein and Newton together, give them all the equipment they need and several life-times and they would build a paradise for us. It's no wonder God keeps brilliant minds like these apart. He can't allow humans to create the heaven of earth he's promised in The Revelation!
Even when we take a passive stance the response is the same. Even when we're silent the response is the same. I mainly wrote this article because of all the atheists who come here asking why we believe and why we're Christian. Well this is why.
It's not meant to offend.
Actually people will flirt with her if she has charisma but high charisma is not related to prostitution. To find those clients (once the player has joined the brothel) then wearing the right clothing is necessary. That doesn't mean you won't meet people outside that clientele who won't pay you for that service but they are less common to come across.
Also bit of trivia: In EoTN charisma isn't related to Lucia's looks. She's already good looking. Charisma determines how well she keeps herself (i.e clean skin and brushed hair) and dresses.
Yep, other clothing too. Not just because of the setting but to ensure all classes are accommodated for with the right weapons/clothing/armor. Bards wouldn't really wear anything over light armor if they're to wear armor at all. Same goes for rogues. Clothing can provide charisma benefits as well as skill benefits. (Dark clothing would enhance your stealth for example)
Hope you keep going. There's not much attention here because there's little to see here. Write an article and upload a video or two and this page will become all the more active. The modding community for DA:O is small so we can do with more campaign mods like this.
It's just sad that DA:O never reached the same level as the modding community for NWN (which is still going).
And who said the woman was even pretty?
And how do you even know that such an organization even exists? There was only the Bavarian Illuminati which is now defunct. Asides from some musical videos containing Illuminatic symbols (Illuminatic? Hm, is that even a word?) I simply see no evidence of such a society.
Of course you could then say "that's because they're secret" but then how do you know they exist and what goals they have? There are numerous versions of what they want, who they are and what they do. My favorite version is that all the world's leaders are part of the order and also lizard men from underground.
The fact is, is that if such a group exist then they've done a bad job remaining secret considering all the exposure videos there are of them.
Exactly. So I can only imagine what Medusa thinks they're good for considering they do nothing.
Shame they don't exist though because sitting around a fire-place drinking the finest wine and dining exquisitely is my kind of thing. I'd get to grow a mustache I can twirl and say "riveting tale chap" to my countryman recounting one of his many stories as I hold my wine nobly in one hand while smoking a cigar in the other sitting cross-legged in my comfy chair.
Oh and then when the world finally discovers we exist and some good for nothing hero shows up I can be sitting in my fancy chair by said same fire-place telling him our plans for world domination and how he's not going to stop us. I'd feel like the big bad antagonist of a story and it would just be such jolly fun!
Hey. Why don't we form the Illuminati? We'll need all the world's money, blackmail on all the world's leaders and bases all over the world.
"You can not stop us Dr.Dofus. Those rare minerals you found on Mars aren't rare at all. They're actually very common." ~ Me sitting cross-legged in my comfy chair by the fire-place, glass of wine in one hand and twirling my evil mustache with the other.
"No! No! I will not believe this! I can't believe this! YOU MONSTER!" ~ Dr.Dofus
Yeah because world peace is wrong DDguy.
Warriors are supposed to be pretty I suppose?
Go back to romancing Anders in Dragon Age 2.
BTW guys there's a BIG reveal coming this Friday.
Jesus Christ CrazyOldTeenager...
My God. I just noticed that. That's a massive fail on my part.
I meant autism and Asperger's Syndrome. Sometimes when I spell autism I occasionally write atheism just because they share many of the same letters in common. Remove "u" from autism and add "t" and "h" and you have atheism. Also the fact that I had previously spelt atheism (before writing that) also led me to mix the two. In other words, sometimes I see the words as similar looking when skimming through paragraphs and when writing.
I've bashed atheists many times on Moddb. So when I say that wasn't intentional I really mean it.
Fail? Nah. Epic fail. The Jesus Facepalm is for situations like these and I fully deserve such a facepalm.
Depends. I mean there are things like 7/11 and 9/11 that occur but then again, nothing like that has occurred for years. Mind you, you often hear how police stop terrorists before they even have a chance to act so that's probably why nothing like 7/11 or 9/11 have occurred again other than the Boston bombings of course which were an "inside job" so to speak.
Depends Insanity. There are different spectrums and different conditions.
Perhaps you already know much about it but if you'd like to know more then have a read of this:
It does mainly involve socializing but the way they act or view things can be different and this leads to some people (unaware of atheism or Asperger's) to categorize such people as either weird or (in some cases) crazy.
Yes. We're not talking about doctors who understand. Many common folk seem to view mentally ill people as though they're monsters and lots of illnesses are still misunderstood. Although not categorized as a mental illness, most people I know view autistic people and their behaviour as something that is their fault. This view often extends to mental illnesses. Fact is, anyone who acts differently from what is considered the norm gets alienated from society.
In the case of depression, people sorely misunderstand it thinking depression is caused by someone simply pitying themselves. Depression can be caused from many things even childhood trauma, same goes with other mental illnesses if one doesn't genetically inherit one.
Of course there is support for the mentally ill now but society as a whole is still primitive in their understanding of what it means to be mentally ill. As I said once before; Society hasn't progressed much and some people ignorantly believe that it's a person's own fault if they're suffering from a mental health problem.
He looks constipated in the video thumbnail...
There will be a description. The "scene" occurs normally. It's not a cut scene. It's simply animations occurring within the dialogue.
Dishonesty would imply I lie. Please look up the definition.
Almost forgot about our creatard cakes. Those will certainly cause some allergic reactions giving us the advantage.
That's right it's just for the article. The only dialogue from the module is the example in italics and commas. I'm not exactly going to write an English essay for a quick news report so I'm just rushing writing the articles here.
The armors and weapons within that ancient city are quite powerful so naturally they would "prove instrumental" in defeating the evil within Castle Lox Avue rather than being fully instrumental. There are also some very unique items to be found there but I won't spoil anything by mentioning what they are. You'll simply have to adventure there and find out by yourself. ;D
Oh and I just tested the necropolis. I and my party got slaughtered and this was at LV 5. I even got slaughtered within there as a higher LV 8 character. The highest level in the module you can reach so far is somewhere above 10 but below 15 (I can't make an accurate statement here as I've recently changed the EXP gain system meaning you receive less EXP from killing enemies).
Of course I had run out of potions while adventuring within there which just goes to show once again that you need to prepare for encounters in this mod. I have never tried solo-ing this module but now I'm even more anxious to do so.
Also need I mention that the necropolis is accessible for LV 2 characters? Going at that level would make the challenges within all the more harder but if you actually manage to defeat some of the enemies within you could leave with some higher level equipment which would help you for the next few hours at least.
So you're saying you're more scientifically literate than Kelvin? GTFO Medusa. First you insult Newton and now Kelvin. How many more great minds will you insult just because they disagree with your evidenceless world-view? Also I don't think you know the meaning of the word misanthrope based on your posts on morality and justice.
"Stay objective and refer to the work they did, words mean nothing without that."
Then you misunderstand why I used the quote. I used the quote because it expressed my view. If you want to play it this way then tell your atheist group to stop posting quotes from stupid people (it even has quotes from them in the description of the group).
This is just hypocrisy at its best. If you don't support quoting then you wouldn't be part of the atheist group which disagrees (seemingly) with your own philosophy. Just more proof atheism is madness and a religious belief I guess.
"Newton was a ****** creationists and believed in alchemy"
Now you seriously prove you grossly misunderstand science here. The scientists of the past who "believed" in alchemy did so because there were results. We only have chemistry because of experiments with alchemy.
Alchemy was proved false because of all the tests and experiments but "magic" was discovered in the end in the form of chemistry the true miracle. Alchemists searched for ways to prolong life and in a way, their quest was completed through chemistry which has produced medicine that has extended human life along with other benefits alchemists would dub magical.
I thought you understood that theories/hypothesis/models rise and fall and are replaced anew when better ones come along. Seems I was wrong there.
"By that you walk a saver way unless someone like you comes across and shows his extremely bad reading comprehension"
Talking about yourself here? Because the quote was included to complement the image for God's sake...
Would you rather me use Einstein's quote? Or Louis Pasteur's quote? All convey the same message.
Kelvin does not become a mockery because he scoffed at other scientific advancements. You're ignoring all that he contributed to science just because he disagreed with your little belief.
No problem mate. Anyone who calls Newton a ******* deserves to have their comment given negative karma.
These same people seem to think that the nations that lived in Israel (before the Israelites took it of course) were full of peace-loving people who wouldn't hurt a fly. The Bible says these people murdered and sacrificed their children through fire to their gods. Archaeology has also revealed this fact about these enemy nations in The Bible.
Even so, God spared the Canaanites for 400 years (Genesis 15:13-16) because not all of them were evil at the time. If God was such an evil God, it would have been Abraham leading his people to this land to siege it rather than Moses. Instead, God let centuries past because there were still some good people living in those nations once again affirming God's characteristics as portrayed with the Sodom and Gomorrah scenario where Abraham notes that God would not destroy the righteous with the wicked or even entire cities if there are some righteous people living within them.
Contrary to what some Christians nowadays seem to think, the god of the OT and NT are both the same. God is love, kindness, forgiveness but also a father, justice and discipline. We are all God's children so he disciplines us as he must also knowing that the death of the mortal body is not true death. Even without that philosophy, these verses show God is good, so there's no argument to be had from the opposite side.
In the meantime you'll just have to make-do with some character profiles I have planned.
Your mistake is placing us all in the same boat because a few creationists use the scripture as scientific literature. ElfFriend is a Young Earth Creationist and he believes the scripture supports this view (even though most Christians don't) but when he's spoken of biology and DNA, he's getting that information from science sites and sources.
I don't see what one Christian has got to do with the proven facts in this article.
LOL you're actually attempting to defend Stalin?
Whoops! Deleted your comment by accident! Never mind, it added nothing to the discussion anyway so I can't be bothered restoring it.
Yeah have a good day Sanguinius. When you're ready to actually post something constructive then I'll reply with something more substantial. There's nothing here about "hating God" so keep your stereotypical template arguments to yourself.
I'm done arguing with someone who refuses to see reason and can only insult rather than engage in proper intellectual constructive debate.
DetoNato: "Whaaa Ecclesia! You were rude to me in the debates."
Have you guessed why yet? All Elf came here to do was correct this image and explain what the verse meant and you and all the others have dismissed him with insults. This is why I stopped bothering to be polite to atheists years ago. There's simply no point.
Saint Paul said women should wear coverings when praying or preaching and if you read the whole chapter (Elf provided the link) you'll see how he's being metaphorical.
"What are you still doing here? You like have a problem with every image. Go troll somewhere else." -V
Then stop complaining about every image a Christian posts in the CHRISTIAN group mocking atheism or abiogenesis. The hypocrisy here is astounding.
I'm outta here.
Says Sanguinius, the guy who *still* believes in the debunked concept of spontaneous generation. Idiot.
Creationists do not use The Bible as scientific literature and if there are any who do then it's only a few because every Christian views The Bible simply as a collection of books written by prophets inspired by God so naturally they would contain scientific facts as I've shown. That's what this article was about.
Wait so time-travel is possible but only in one direction? First you accuse me of setting up a straw-man and then you admit to believing in time-travel (as I suspected). You are aware there's no evidence for time-travel right? It's considered sci-fi just like transporting through wormholes is.
The robots you refer to were never considered sci-fi but intelligent robots which could talk and think for themselves were and still till this today we have not created such robots. Augmentations (Deus Ex) still aren't possible. Attachments have been added to humans that function by themselves (like a robotic arm that can hold objects and release them) but whoever is wearing them cannot control them. One day scientists will likely create robots that can think for themselves in some capacity and obviously robotic technology can be used on humans but all things like time-travel are considered sci-fi because they defy science and the laws.
That quest? No.
You did present me with an idea though for another quest. Though it isn't to do with your quest. You posted something that gave me an idea for a quest though (truth be told I was planning to do the quest before but decided against it until I saw your comment).
The new article will cover the vampire stuff (well at least some of it) so I'll answer your first question. Pregnancy? I was considering adding it in for a sub-plot where Lucia can get pregnant and have a baby but if I am to add it then I want it done right so we'll see in the end after everything else has been added.
Asides from that, I would prefer the years progressing forward after the birth so you actually get a child who you can speak to and teach.
Sounds good but Lucia's parents are dead (their deaths? You'll have to play the mod to find out) so naturally such a quest wouldn't be able to be implemented.
Yes, Lucia is a virgin (and young) at the beginning. Elisha isn't romancable.
I'm sorry but it's not. Time-travel, genetic enhancement which makes people into literal gods (Too Human), ability to defy the laws of nature and science and the technology to travel to one end of the universe to the other in a blind of an eye is science-fiction and also impossible.
There are limits to what a human can build. Does it matter if The Bible doesn't tell us about about what E-MC2, quantum physics and gravity are? It discussed other scientific facts which really debunks the original argument from the atheist that The Bible is unscientific. I have proved that it's not. You're now trying to make something out of nothing (pun intended).
Leonardo Da Vinci's blueprints were not science-fiction and he actually thought they would work and intended to build them. When scientists built the robot he had planned it actually worked.
Thank you and I totally agree, NWN1 is an amazing game and one that I hope people keep playing and enjoying for years to come.
Spiderman can't be based on truth or don't you think scientists would have made us a spiderman by now who goes out there fighting crime? Or why aren't there any of these genetically enhanced soldiers fighting out there?
So no it's not based on anything truthful. It's based on sci-fiction and sci-fiction (regardless of what you think) isn't based on what is truth.
Nope. Harry Potter has no facts. Spiderman has no facts and neither does Dungeons and Dragons. Unless you've come across proof that those things are based on real events or really did happen? No? Didn't think so.
I'm hardly going to let them claim "victory" in the Christian group am I? This article was meant for Christians who had no idea about these scientific facts so they can mention them the next time someone lies by saying that The Bible is unscientific (and it isn't just atheists that say this).
More than us. Yep.
I don't support the development of any nuclear weapons. Nothing good could come of them. Why are humans so damn stupid? Nuclear power is one thing and weapons are another.
Personally I think alternative energy methods need to be used or developed and nuclear weapons (no matter what country builds them) need to be banned.
The forum is up everyone. Use it for debates.
I didn't troll the atheist page nor did I troll your troll group.
"It's not religion we don't like, it's you."
I'm so upset. An internet stranger hates me. Excuse me while I go cry myself to sleep.
Really Deer? I'm the troll? You're the one who called us retarded. You're the one who insulted us with swear words. You're the one who sent me three PM's ranting and waving at me and you're the only one trolling and spamming Moddb.
Keep this up and I'll report you. I've got your comments in my inbox where you've done nothing but insult me and if you keep stalking me like this, I will have no choice but to show them to an admin.
Those quotes of yours are from 1933 whereas my quotes come from 1941. Clearly more quotes are more accurate when determining Hitler's religious beliefs because they are more up to date than your ones.
Those sites I posted weren't religious save for the "simpletoremember" site which is Jewish. This shows you didn't even check them.
So to even the odds, I'll post a Christian site on Hitler:
And here's yet two more anti-Christian quotes by Hitler:
13th December, 1941, midnight:
Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119)
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:
National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)
So please stop spreading your lies. Hitler wasn't a Christian. Hitler was anti-Christian and anti-religious like most atheists today.
Hitler was anti-religious. All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:
10th October, 1941, midday:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)
14th October, 1941, midday:
The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)
19th October, 1941, night:
The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.
All these quotes come from Hitler's Table Talk.
Hitler's pro-Christian statements were from 1922 and 1933. In 1941 he was clearly anti-Christian hence his statements above and persecution of Christians and other religions. Yea, Hitler was Christian once but later turned away from it just like Darwin turned away from Christianity.
Hitler's Persecution of Churches:
If you doubt the site citing his quotes, then go look at the book yourself:
Hitler wasn't Christian. End of story.
So the death of millions is okay to you? Oh wait. You have a Stalin avatar...
You should put him next to Hitler and Pol Pot.
God wants humans to learn for themselves and he wants them to achieve things out of free-will. Even if God can look into the future doesn't mean he does. It would be cruel for God to force us to obey him. Instead we are given choice. We can join the rebellion with Satan who is the god of this world (and look how the world is with morals, laws and codes fading. It's horrible.) or we can join God who wants the best for humanity.
You know nothing of being a father like most atheists it seems.
The truth being that spontaneous generation and nothing creating something are myths. Both theories were debunked centuries ago and can be debunked today too by tests. Both theories have zero observational evidences and practical tests have shown these two theories to be wrong.
Nah. Atheism isn't of the truth and you can't handle the truth but feel free to continue creating posters of these idols that you worship as your gods.
This. You've also proven that God has blessed you Revan9567 because you foresaw Adenn'Verda's comment and posted a reply to it two days before he even posted it here. You prove the validity of The Bible because God has granted you the power to see into the future as a result of your faith.
Well it's either that or some glitch happened in the system but I like my first theory better. Probably not true but it's funny just like atheism.
It's one sided because the image it's responding to is one sided.
1: Hitler wasn't a Christian. Read Hitler's Table Talk as referenced in the description.
2: Stalin persecuted religious people for the sake of atheism.
3: The guy who created the computer was a Christian.
4: Hitler was anti-Christian. Hitler's Table Talk references this.
5: Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, USSR and North Korea have killed more in a shorter time span.
So the images you post in your atheist group are okay but when a Christian does it isn't? Get off your high horse and take your hypocrisy with you Sanguinius. Atheism has caused much evil and isn't perfect and this image and the facts associated with them prove that. You should learn to accept that. You too have made your mind up about atheism and you accept it as gospel truth so don't be a hypocrite.
You've watched me and my comments over the years? I only started commenting on this group back in 2011 when it was created. Seriously stop lying and accept the truth. The truth will set you free.
And BTW where did I say that I'm bothered that you doubt my religion? This image isn't even about debunking the atheism theory (something I did in my article which I shall link to below). This image is in response to the image in the atheist group.
Think before you act on emotions Sanguinius. I'm sure Hilter, Stalin and Pol Pot also all acted on emotions rather than on rational thought. Look how that turned out...
Here's the article that I created arguing against atheism and providing evidence for God:
Yes the image is one sided but for a reason. However unlike the atheist's image, I have a little less bias in mine because I state this in the description:
"Am I calling atheism evil? No but to say it's perfect is a lie. Religion has been used for evil in the past but so have atheistic belief systems and anti-religion has been used as fuel for evil too."
As you can see I do indeed say that religion has been used for evil in the past too.
One of the most scariest things in the universe if I must say so myself. The idea of nothing - not even light - being able to escape from the pull of a black hole is frightening.
Technically Isaac Newton should be in the middle. If there's a king of science then Newton was it. The Principia - written by Newton - is considered to be one of the most influential and important science books to have ever been written.
Newton was a physicist, mathematician, astronomer, natural philosopher, alchemist, and theologian and even ended up being part of Parliament at one point in his life.
Supposedly the only comment he ever made at Parliament was telling someone to shut one of the windows because a draft was coming in. If that's not boss-like then I don't know what is. Even his portrait looks epic.
For more on God, time and the universe read this article:
Then don't bother responding.
1. "Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosomal Adam say otherwise. Google them. It's proven by science that we descended from these two individuals." -- I'm still waiting for you to debunk this.
2. Okay then: "For the foundations of the earth are the LORD's; upon them he has set the world." (Samuel 2:8) Full quote:
"He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them." This verse is speaking about people not the earth.
3. Trenches are technically part of the foundation.
4. So whales swim in rivers?
5. They are ambiguous to you. Heaven originally meant space since God himself said it cannot contain him:
1 Kings 8:27 "But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!"
8. Then what would you describe the jet streams as? Solomon was being poetic was simultaneously stating a fact. Jet streams go around the Earth.
"Jet streams may start, stop, split into two or more parts, combine into one stream, or flow in various directions including the opposite direction of most of the jet."
And you're missing the point. The Bible also says The Earth floats in space and according to your logic I should disregard it meaning such because people back then couldn't possibly know.
Yes people back then could know because God could tell them as he told David.
Ummm what? They lived years apart. How could Mitochondrial Eve be Noah's wife? You're still ignoring the evidence which has been proven with science that all humans can trace their ancestry back to these two which you said was impossible beforehand.
Laws of Quarantine
In the same Med-Planet encyclopedia cited above we read that "It was not until 1873 that leprosy could be shown to be infectious rather than hereditary."2 Of course God knew this all along, as His laws to Moses reveal (Leviticus 13, 14, 22, Numbers 19:20). His instructions regarding quarantine to prevent the spread of leprosy and other infectious diseases are nothing short of remarkable, considering that this life-saving practice was several thousand years ahead of its time. Infected persons were instructed to isolate themselves outside the camp until healed, and were to shave and wash thoroughly. The priests that administered care were instructed to change their clothes and wash thoroughly after inspecting a plague victim.
It should be re-emphasized that the Israelites were the only culture to practice quarantine until the last century, when medical advances finally demonstrated the importance of sanitation and isolation during plagues. The devastating black plague of the 14th century that claimed millions of lives was not broken until the church fathers in Vienna began encouraging the public to start following the guidelines as set forth in the Bible. The promising results in Vienna compelled other cities to follow suit, and the dreaded plague was finally eradicated3.
The First Antiseptic
Hyssop oil was charged by God to Moses to be used as a purifying agent. Hyssop oil has been shown to contain 50% antifungal and antibacterial agents (Numbers 19:18, Psalm 51:7).
Some time after I wrote these web pages, a Bible skeptic unwittingly showed me yet another example of advanced scientific/medical knowledge in the Bible. He posted a message on a discussion board that ridiculed some verses in Leviticus 13 and 14 that mention leprosy on walls and on garments. He felt this was silly and an error since leprosy is a human disease. What this skeptic was unaware of is the fact that leprosy is a bacteria, a living organism, that certainly can survive on walls and garments! In fact, the Medic-Planet.com encyclopedia notes that leprosy "can survive three weeks or longer outside the human body, such as in dust or on clothing"2. It is no wonder that God commanded the Levitical priests to burn the garments of leprosy victims! (Leviticus 13:52)
The Israelites were instructed to wash themselves and their clothes in running water if they had a bodily discharge, if they came in contact with another person's discharge, or if they had touched a dead human or animal carcass. They were also instructed to wash any uncovered vessels that were in the vicinity of a dead body, and if a dead carcass touched a vessel it was to be destroyed. Items recovered during war were also to be purified through either fire or running water. In addition, the Israelites were instructed to bury their human waste outside of camp, and to burn the waste of their animals (See Numbers 19:3-22, Lev. 11:1-47; 15:1-33, Deut 23:12).
These sanitary practices without question saved countless lives in the Israelite camps by protecting them against infection caused by unseen germs. Meanwhile, their Egyptian peers were dying by the thousands due to "remedies" that almost always consisted of some amount of human or animal dung1. As mentioned earlier, the sound sanitary practices that we take for granted today only began to flourish about a 100 years ago.
You didn't refute anything. You've created opinions and nothing more. You've already gone to the Christian site and you've seen what the Bible has said about blood, quarantine, antiseptic, microscopic organisms and sanitary practices.
And nope I never said you hated God and I haven't insulted you. You took my comments as insulting because they debunk your entire arguments. It's you who needs to grow up and calm down over one paragraph which only you and you alone found offensive.
If you aren't going to go to the site, I'll guess I'll quote it here to debunk you once again in front of everyone else.
Lack of facts on what theory? I stated the same that you stated. I provided the evidence too and yes I do believe The Big Bang happened which is why we observe universes rapidly moving away from each other along with other measurements which show the universe is expanding.
I guess you don't realize how much you've done away with your own atheist theory.
"The assertion that the infinitely small ball of mass (which became the big bang) existed for all eternity is technically incorrect just for the fact that time did not exist in this infintely small ball of mass."
"There is disagreement as to how it happened..."
"I'm an atheist..."
Heh. Your quotes pretty much say something caused The Big Bang. Science itself says there must have been a cause behind The Big Bang. As an atheist though you just don't want to call that cause God and atheist scientists also refuse to say God caused it despite the evidence being there.
However you look at it you just admitted that the universe didn't come from nothing so the reasonable conclusion is God. The other alternative is a never-ending cycle of universes dying and giving rebirth to another but that would have had to have started from somewhere too..
You're missing the point again. Sea fossils have been found on land too, not just mountains. As for the flood story:
No. I said that most cultures and religions have a similar flood story with striking similarities. You're saying that some of these stories mention immortal men but these flood stories are few and rare compared to the majority which mention a boat being built, one family surviving and that family going on to populate the world again.
As for the plants and trees surviving that is simple. Not all were killed according to Genesis hence why a dove brought leaves from an Olive tree back to Noah. Seeds and the like would also have survived to give regrowth and insects obviously survived too to speed up the regrowth.
Of course I doubt this will convert you Admiral. Even these things won't convert you:
The Big Bang didn't originate from nothing and no top scientist believes that as these articles prove:
"The Universe must have been born in this single violent event which came to be known as the "Big Bang."
"The big bang theory leaves several major questions unanswered. One is the original cause of the big bang itself. Several answers have been proposed to address this fundamental question, but none has been proven—and even adequately testing them has proven to be a formidable challenge."
Most scientists believe the The Big Bang came from somewhere. The idea of The Big Bang coming from an infinite dense compressed space which had existed for infinity isn't even a scientific accepted theory. Is this relevant to the discussion? It is because The Bible also says the universe and everything in it had a beginning. As time progresses, we get more and more evidence also agreeing with this but atheist scientists say "we are unsure what caused The Big Bang" even though the answer is staring them in the face. Even if it's a unconscious energy that caused The Big Bang, it's still a creator.
I can bring up all the scientific facts from The Bible (I can even bring up the medical facts which can only be found in The Bible and no other historical source) and you won't convert because you've already made your choice and will continue to argue against The Bible simply because of your disbelief in God.
Advanced Medical Knowledge in The Bible:
Y-Chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve:
I don't believe these to be Adam and Eve as these two individuals existed at different time-frames but they still do away with the theory that humanity cannot trace their ancestry back to one or two people. All can trace their ancestry back to these two (one who is being argued as being Noah) as science has proved.
This alone agrees with the Biblical account.
"The oceanic trenches are hemispheric-scale long but narrow topographic depressions of the sea floor. They are also the deepest parts of the ocean floor."
Sounds like they are the foundation of the earth to me...
Psalm 18:15 "Then at your command, O LORD, at the blast of your breath, the bottom of the sea could be seen, and the foundations of the earth were laid bare."
Ark refute refuted:
You didn't refute me about the deep sea trenches as my other comment I just created proved. You missed out a vital part. As for the mountains: that's true but you missed out the part about sea fossils being discovered on land all across the world throughout history. So you either have to believe that all land was under the ocean once or that a flood occurred. Concerning the first belief, The Bible actually says the Earth was originally just covered in water before God created land.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is but one story. There are plenty of others which all reference one survivor. All cultures and most religions have a flood story. You say that my logic here is flawed but that's untrue. Where are the religions and cultures talking about a mass Exodus? Where are the religions and cultures talking about God giving them a set of rules? Where are the religions and cultures talking about a Messiah who will save the entire world? There are few if none. This is because an Exodus occurred only for the Jewish people.
Religions and cultures often contain similar stories (a angel/god/being who rebelled against the Creator being an example) because these stories have originated from one place where the story has been passed down from generation to generation.
It's likely the end of the ice age would have brought great floods across the earth too and flooded all of the land. It's funny how you ignored this part because it's likely the end of the ice age would bring floods. Look at today where little bits of ice melting bring GREAT FLOODS to lands near seas and rivers. Imagine a world with tons more ice than today melting. That's sure to bring flooding to most parts of land. The Bible says it rained for 40 days and 40 nights but my argument doesn't contradict this. It could have rained simultaneously to fuel the flood even more and raise the sea level.
1: Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosomal Adam say otherwise. Google them. It's proven by science that we descended from these two individuals.
2. It is a scientific fact. You can't see the world floating while on it and Samuel 2:8 is referring to earth itself (hence why it's lowercase).
3. "Foundations of the earth..." refers to trenches.
4. Hardly. Fish swim is the sea but why say they swim in the paths of the seas? That is referring to Ocean currents because Ocean currents are exactly that.
5. So heavens is the Earth? I don't think so.
6. The theories of Atoms may not have come from The Bible but it's in it still. It's still a scientific fact and The Bible still mentions it (which is what this article is about).
7. Again, it's not about The Bible mentioning something first and here the idea could easily have originated from The Bible first. I doubt King David went to Greece or even spoke Greek to speak to Greeks about it. This 7th fact seems to support the idea that King David was indeed divinely gifted.
8. Hardly. Jet streams go around the earth. Why does it need to go into specifics?
Islam is an Abrahamic religion. All Abrahamic religions contains some truths.
Bible: Adam and Eve (all humans can trace their ancestry back to them).
Science: Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosomal Adam (all humans can trace their ancestry back to them).
Bible: Earth hangs on nothing. (Job 26:7)
Science: We've been in space. The Earth is supported by nothing. It's "floating" in space shall we say?
Bible: Trenches and valleys in the sea. (Psalm 18:15)
Today: With the right equipment (that didn't exist back then) we've been able to reach the very bottoms of the seas and see that it's not flat as people used to think.
Bible: The sea has paths for fishes. (Psalm 8:8)
Science: Fishes and the like swim in currents which are kinda of like the "roads" of the sea.
Bible: Heaven is expanding. (Jeremiah 10:12)
Science: The universe is expanding and we see galaxies constantly moving away from one another as a result.
Bible: Everything we see are composed of things that cannot be seen. (Hebrew 11:3)
Science: Everything we see are composed of things we cannot see. These things are atoms.
Bible: Sea has vents. (Job 38:16)
Science: Sea has vents.
Bible: World has jet streams. (Ecclesiates 1:6)
Science: Discovered jet streams in 1930.
The Bible had all these scientific facts before science proved them.
As for Noah's Ark:
Fish fossils and fossils of whales and other DEEP SEA creatures have been found on mountains and other places on lands. Such fossils were recorded by the Ancient Greeks who suspected that a flood must have taken place ages ago.
It's likely the end of the ice age would have brought great floods across the earth too and flooded all of the land.
Nearly every religion and culture has a flood story with one man surviving the flood and ensuring that the human race lives on. Most always build a boat with animals on. Even the Native Americans had a similar story.
That itself is proof that some type of flood must have happened.
Aye. Just like all those quotes, images and articles in your atheist group are in vain too. Didn't you know that the majority of life is vanity too? Everything you earn or achieve counts for nothing in the end anyway. What you achieved has been achieved before and what you have earned has been earned before. Riches, women, love...none of it matters in the end anyway.
I really don't get your point. Posting articles such as these is just as vain as everyone modifying games.
I was actually referring to the gospels which were records which were then made part of The Bible. Only four made it in whereas the others were abandoned, left out or simply destroyed. There were more than four gospels. I believe there were around 70 originally. Hell, there were probably more. Sadly, The Church destroyed them.
Forget The Bible. Before the gospels were established, they were ordinary books and records which were later called the gospels when The Church put The Bible together. Before that, they were real records by many different people.
Books lie? Then maybe all history books are lying then. The Crusades? Nah. That's a lie. They never really happened. Pope Urban II didn't exist. After all, we only have a few records of him. There's no way he's real.
No. You fail on every level Adenn 'Verda. You atheists do pretend to know about the origin of the universe. You all say, "God doesn't exist! Lalalala! Christians are stupid and unscientific!" Scientists have provided no theories for the origin of the universe and if you're talking about The Big Bang, that's not a theory which really supports atheism because it states the universe HAD a beginning and WAS CREATED which really speaks against the atheism theory.
I was using those Bible verses to support the fact that God is timeless and exists beyond time and therefore he couldn't have a beginning.
How can one have a beginning when time doesn't exist? You know nothing about the principle of time do you? And don't come back with "Oh, maybe the universe always existed." because I just proved that it didn't.
So what other theories are there Adenn 'Verda? Was some dumb energy source in existence before the universe? Did this dumb energy source - for no reason - suddenly transform into the universe? That defies logic and still does away with the atheism theory because it implies that Pantheism is true.
You atheists just don't want to accept that an intelligent mind who controls everything was behind creation. I think it does scare you.
"Damn, running out of options here! So, he must of *just been*, right? He is eternal and stuff, right? Well, if no one created him HE WAS CREATED OUT OF NOTHING!!! <--- Which, as you so kindly put it, is impossible."
So if he "just is" how can he be created if he has always been? Do you not see the illogicality in your comment? God has never been created. He has no beginning. Beginnings, middles and ends cannot exist in a place where time does not exist.
The Universe on the other hand had a beginning and exists within time as science has proved. If we go by your theory, we're still going by the idea that the universe spontaneously exploded from nothing.
God is the more logical idea.
Atheism debunked again. Time to cry myself to sleep. Will there ever be a worthy opponent I ask myself? Alas, God torments me for my sins and all are delivered into my hands and their arguments are destroyed by arguments. There is no fun in this. There is no challenge. What's the point? --- My go at a Bible verse. Good no? No? No.
I haven't debunked my own religion Ten10dix.
Who created God?
Jesus Christ grant me...
I learnt this answer when I was five years old. It's funny how you atheists don't even know the answer to a very simple question which is answered in The Bible that you atheists are supposed to be more "knowledgeable" about.
1 Corinthians 2:7: "No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began."
Titus 1:2: "A faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time."
Jude 1:25: "To the only God, our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen."
God is timeless. God existed before time since he created. God is endless, infinite and has no beginning and no end. He's beyond the comprehension of the human brain and a lot of atheists are probably scared of this fact and therefor try to "dumb" God down and say he lives in the sky. LOL, God is beyond this world and this dimension and this universe which cannot even contain him.
"But will God really dwell on earth? The heavens, even the highest heaven, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! -- 1 Kings 8:27
Acts 17:24 "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.
There's proof of aliens visiting this planet? There's no proof. You believe in aliens without seeing them and yet deny God because you don't see him.
You've contradicted yourself. No man has ever grown a hand by wishing for it and therefore, your argument is really invalid. There are many historic examples where prayers have been answered though and Biblical prophecies have come true:
No one has ever ran out proclaiming that they created something from nothing though and no one ever shall. "I wished and my hand grew back!" Nope. These words have never said and never will be. Miracles are reported. Atheism physics is never reported.
There are actually indefinite stars and indefinite planets in this massive universe with indefinite civilizations which God has probably created. Science confirms that FTL is not possible. Any aliens that came here would have to be really stupid to spend thousands of years travelling through space to visit earth and burn our crops (trolling) and then fly off. Either these aliens are the biggest trolls in this universe to fly for billions of light years just to troll farmers or they are incredibly stupid. My opinion? Any civilization that is space-faring wouldn't spend thousands of years travelling to the next galaxy just to troll farmers and then leave and therefore, logically, all these crop circles are fake as proven along with UFO's which are mostly confirmed as being army air crafts.
Do I expect you to believe the story about the miracle I witnessed? No. You'd be foolish to believe me but it worked unlike the atheism theory.
I'm not trying to prove the existence of a god who interacts with the universe but this image proves a god created the universe. Whether that god interacts with the universe or not (deism) is another story but let me tell, all the miracles and reports of miracles throughout human history really speak against your comment. I know atheists who have converted to theism after witnessing miracles and these were the really devout atheists who are skeptical of everything. So for them to convert to theism, the miracle must have been really indisputable for them to suddenly convert.
Either way, this image does away with the atheism theory. It doesn't prove God interacts with this universe but it still proves a creator is the more logical theory than the atheism lie.
Prayer has worked plenty of times and if you Google it (or ask someone in real life), you will find plenty of stories from people who prayed and received what they wanted. I once prayed after my leg was injured to point where I could not walk, it was fixed there and then. If you truly seek and believe, your prayers will be answered. Africa? Africa is starved of resources and experiences lack of rain. We know. Such must be so for the words of Christ to be fulfilled:
"Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places."
If God gave one person food and water in Africa, he'd have to give everyone there food and water. Currently, God cannot do this. This world belongs to Satan now:
1 John 5:19
"We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one."
God is allowing Satan to have control of the world so that we can see what a ruler Satan really is and turn away from him out of free-will. For this to happen, God cannot interact. He held our hand once but no more. We are no longer in the nest.
The meek however will inherit the earth in the end. The children who die of starvation will inherit the earth. Death to God is not true death and once you know the one whom he sent, you will know that death is not the end.
But the meek will inherit the land and enjoy great peace.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.
I believe in four things:
Atheists lack knowledge in Christianity, logic and common sense most of the time. Science doesn't answer all questions. Sometimes logic and common sense does too. For example, it's logic and common sense that something cannot suddenly spawn from nothing. We can even prove this by science in the following way:
Sit down on the floor and cross your legs. Next, wish for something to appear. Now, no matter how much you wish and wish and wish, nothing will appear. Atheism is the belief that the universe came from nothing and we have proven through scientific method that nothing cannot produce something.
Therefore, the opposite belief (a creator creating the universe) is the more logical belief.
There you go. Science just debunked atheism and you can even try the experiment at home. It's fun too!
You've nailed it. Those ****s only care for money.
Nope. He's in Hell, being tormented with the demons. Simply accepting Christ on your deathbed doesn't get you saved. If that was the case, why would life need to continue? Life is a test. If accepting Christ gets you saved, then shouldn't you die there and then?
When Christ forgave people, he said to them "Go and sin no more" and by saying such, he was telling them and even if you believe in his words, you're not supposed to sin. You're suppose to try and live life good.
In another verse, Christ states that many will come to him on Judgement day saying that they drove out Satans in Christ's name. Christ then said that he will tell them to go away because he doesn't know them. What Christ meant by this is that those who claim to be of Christ aren't true adherents because they kept sinning and justifying their sin.
You can only truly be forgiven if you pray for forgiveness over every sin you commit and you're truly sorry.
Being sorry (or asking for forgiveness) on your death bed isn't good enough. That's being cowardly. It's too late then. You had your life as your chance. 70 years is good enough to try and be a good person, so people shouldn't cry when they are on their deaths beds and beg for forgiveness, they had their chance in life.
Kim John Il is in Hell along with Hitler, Stalin and everyone other inhuman monster that murdered and butchered innocent people. Christians call God loving. I call God the God of Justice and he even refers to himself as such many times in The Bible.
Justice isn't always nice to look upon but it's needed. "What kind of God sends people to Hell?" The God of Justice that's who. I don't know about you but I don't want to see a mass murderer in Heaven surrounded with joy and happiness which they don't deserve when they've depraved people of their lives here on earth.
God is the God of Justice first and the God of Love second.
I forgot about that. The religion of the Turians is like Buddhism and according to the Codex, some even embraced Buddhism.
But that still has nothing to do with Christianity. The Crusades were launched concerning land (like most wars) and like most wars, atrocities were committed. Didn't Western soldiers rape Vietnamese women during the Vietnam war?
The Templars however had to refrain from sex and I doubt they would have raped anyone. They went to The Holy Hand for noble purposes even if the war was no longer noble and sure, there may have been a few bad Templars but I'm sure there were noble ones too.
Wow. If this is the guy you look up to, then I feel sorry for you. Can't you look up to Gandhi or Nelson Mandela? How about Martin Luther King? Or do you refuse to look up at them because they believed in God and were devout in their religious beliefs? You atheists amaze me sometimes. As a Christian, I have accepted that many religions contain the same message of truth: love, forgiveness, mercy and selfishness. I respect Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists and Jews and I do not think that any of them will go to Hell. My best friends have been Muslims or Hindus and they've been some of the nicest people I've met.
You atheists on the other hand deny all religions and call all religious people deluded. So who are the intolerant ones? Let me tell you, when C.S Lewis became Christian, he became tolerant of all religions that preached the same message.
Atheists express their rage against God although in their view He does not exist. --C. S. Lewis
I see countless atheistic quotes in this group. It seems you atheists are seeking for something, trying to replace the hole that cannot be filled without God. Let me tell you, no human will ever fill that hole but you're free to continue searching.
Says who? The Templars were formed to give save passage for pilgrims entering The Holy Land as the land was ripe with bandits at the time and hundreds were killed. If not for the Templars, hundreds of more innocent pilgrims would have been killed. Templars actually rushed to death and feared it not. Some were poor men who fasted often (and nearly died by doing so) and in the end, The King of France had them all executed to draw attention away from himself as he was in debt. By killing them, he thought he could take their money as they became rich with donations from everyone. Most of the Templars underwent torture and most accepted death, believing it got them to God earlier. When their Grandmaster burned at the stake, it is reported that he said to the King and the corrupt Pope, "God knows who is wrong and has sinned. Soon a calamity will occur to those who have condemned us to death." and sure enough, the King died in a hunting accident several months later and The Pope died a month later and it said that lightning struck him.
Now I don't know about you but it sure sounds like God liked the Templars. Not all crusaders fought for gold.
But you are an atheist. Every Crusader - according to you - was corrupt. I suppose King Richard The Lionheart and Saladin were corrupt too? From what I recall. King Richard wanted the child that killed him (he had a mortal wound at the time) to be shown mercy. Saladin gave all he had to the poor before he died and he was a good Muslim. In fact, I hear he had no money to pay for his own tomb and that the people paid for a tomb for him because he was such a good person.
Don't forget, The Crusades were launched to stop the Muslim's expansion of their empire. The second and third crusade were about land, nothing more, nothing less. The Crusaders became greedy. Never once did someone decide to go to war against the Muslims because they believed in a different doctrine from the Christians.
That's the strange thing about PC games...some are becoming digital only or where you have to connect to some site to play them. War in The North may be or may not be what you're looking for but I've certainly enjoyed it.
PC games really need to go back to how they were in the past! The only con I noticed straight away with War in The North was that the manual was 3 pages and that's for the 360 version!
Having played War in The North, I can say that it's the best loot RPG on Xbox 360. The voice acting is pretty good. The story is good enough. The combat is gory, fluid and fun and there's some pretty badass killing fatalities. There's a lot of loot to collect and sometimes you have to explore and search for secrets to discover the best of loot. What reviews have you been reading? Most reviews gave the game 7 or 8 out of 10. Were you expecting 10/10?
It certainly does have a LOTR feel to it as well and the music is new and fittingly suitable.
Perhaps rent it and come to a conclusion yourself?
Exactly. I'm all for freedom when it comes to RPG games, so long as bad choices have consequences but a game simply where you're killing children to score points? For me, that just lacks imagination and for that reason alone, it didn't deserve to be hosted upon Moddb.
Video games get such bad press because of stuff like this, the good things of videos games are often ignored. Video games are expanding and are covering many topics in mature ways (games like Dragon Age: Origins and Deus Ex prove this). School Shooter was the past. It was a mindless shooter. Moddb didn't deserve to get attacked like it did for removing it. I can understand why some people felt as though it should have remained (freedom of speech and whatever) and thought of it as being harmless but at the same time, Moddb has rules.
Is he both able and willing? Yes but if God prevented every bad thing in this world, how would we learn from our own mistakes and grow? Your parents let go of your hand, likewise, God has let go of our hand. Evil comes from humans who follow their own selfish desires and refuse to listen to rules and obey them.
Kendal PWNS Regnier IMO.
Because there are those who ask the questions and don't read The Bible to find them and if they read The Bible, they only look at the verses that they think are bad. The Bible states that God killed many people and many call him evil for this reason but as the verses above prove, he doesn't like killing the wicked and would rather that they repented.
There's another verse in Ezekiel where God states that he ALWAYS saves the righteous before he destroys a town or nation. So if there are any righteous people in a wicked city, God will save them.
The Book of Jonah further shows how God would even break his own word if people repent. In The Book of Jonah, God vows to destroy the City and when they repent, he goes back on his own word because that's how forgiving he is.
Evil beings don't have love, forgiveness or compassion.
Looks interesting. Reminds me of those very old classic RPGs.
BTW guys, I created a quick video showing the basics of Arx. The video covers: casting spells, cooking food, combat and inventory. It ends with my character getting drunk in a tavern and causing trouble. It'll be uploaded soon...
I'll wait until the finished version.
Sounds interesting. I'll wait for the finished version though. Tracked.
Hmmm...who would win in a fight between Jdhihjisswiherefj and Gabriel Belmont? Now that's a tale for another time...
LOL, I've read up more about Tolkien and he claims the Lord of The Rings' events were real. LOL, this is proof of that! This is the void that Sauron went to and when the world is ending, he's coming back.
In honestly, this is just one picture from a series of pictures. They're actually playing with each other.
Yeah? Well...um, look at my "scary" new avatar!
Okay, in all honesty, I love all animals but there are some animals which I just wouldn't want as pets. Cats make the list along with Lions, crocodiles and elephants!
No problem. We needed more activity here. I also like it better here because it allows you to create an entire page dedicated to your mod.
They want to have *** with Geralt.
Is...is she winking!?
I dare you to send this to William. lol
Yeah, the little freak kept crying about how the spirit inside him was a spirit of justice, it had actually turned into a demon. That makes him an abomination. And then there was Justice claiming he would never take over a human's body back in Awakenings and he took over Anders' body. Both are hypocrites. I replayed Awakenings and I heard Anders mentioning how he hated First Enchanter Ivring who is a good man and mage. Seems like Anders always hated The Chantry, Templars and good mages with a passion. I liked knifing Anders.
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Oh, I understand.
Well, you know the fate of the cake now. Crowley destroyed it.
Who then? The Church? "Thou shalt obey the church"? Perhaps we go on a quest to find the real one written by the heathen gods.
It looks like it is really coming together.
"It looks great!"