Your opinion is not necessarily mine; Your opinion is not fact; Your opinion is not absolute. Your opinion is a perspective.
OR. You could subscribe HBO and get the first month free.
Who the hell buys the seasons anymore? xD
You were in the army.
OOC: You're blocking me... AGAIN! This Star Destroyer seems to suffer from a severe case of intestinal blockage...
I guess you could say.. this story must be on rails... Lol
Disgruntled, by being forced in a singular direction, the man sighs out loud. The astromech, unsurprisingly, chooses this time to throw yet another snarky comment at the man, mocking his path finding abilities and suggesting he should relinquish leadership to a far superior species, like say... an astromech?
"Too bad for you then...
Oh I never told you? Your hardware was salvaged from a protocol droid!" the man says in sarcastic tone.
As usual, threats of electrocution is the conclusion to the repertoire between them.
"Oh don't you start that again!
C'mon lets go back to the last station. Seems we are left without any choice in the matter."
The tram begins to head back where they step onto the station and starts to look for the unknown party.
I'm willing to try the new system. If the others are on board, your task would now be;
- Design Total Ship Limit (perhaps different sizes depending on the size of the faction, calculated by giving each sector a total of ca. 10 ships is a possibility)
- Rework all the Skill tree's (Command & Raiding both)
- Rework the current defense system.
Naturally, leaving the already existing systems in place until it is completely done and until we all agree on this fully.
Do everything above and I see no reason why we couldn't do this or at least try it out for a period.
The Horizon event failed in the sense that the idea of the Federation and Empire working together right off the bat, during a cold war, would be like the Russians coming to the aid the the United States when being attacked by the Chinese during the Korean war. Were I the Empire, I would sit back and laugh at the Federations misfortune and ONLY when the situation risked threaten my own position would I come to help. As the Federation, there was ZERO logical reason to call the Empire for all. No battles lost, no extended period of conflict, no tactical indication that the Federation wouldn't be able to beat them. Perhaps not in that initial battle, but in the long run we would have won. Anyway, this event is not relevant for the discussion. It didn't fail because of the fleet system, nor did it really fail. Ori just forgot, for a short moment, who I am xD
In principle, yes, no world should be abandoned. But fact is, that if you can either save your entire faction, or even win the war by sacrificing, momentarily, control a single world. That's a good ******* deal. Morally, Tactically and Logically. What you on about Ori? xD
To shorten the number of subjects, lets underline the fact that there would still be a command limit per commander (Which would scale to a lower overall fleet number) and thus no one would be able to take all their ships at the same time.
AK: A product is easier to understand AND sell. Take a look at the current Fleet and Defense rules and outline this new system you envision. Perhaps that will provide clarity to all parties. Even yourself ;)
Oh dear, I'm starting to talk like a Jedi again... Lol
As the party ahead makes a stop, the man turns to the droid.
"Change over onto the other track, we'll go past them and see what is up ahead. The recon drone can continue to monitor them and thus their investigation of the room ahead.
Also, increase speed to full until we have moved ahead of them."
The little astromech twists and turns the dataport, making the necessary adjustments.
They increase their speed and the man begins running to keep up. They reach the station that the unknown group ahead just moved past and finds the tram they sent ahead had automatically stopped at the station.
Before they board the empty tram they take a quick look around but reaches the conclusion that the others must already have searched this location. The board the tram and the man picks up his briefcase, he had in intentionally left it there in case the situation with the unknown boarding party turned hostile.
"Alright, get us moving friend, but lets not antagonize our friends ahead and keep our distance as usual."
I think people have forgotten the guidelines about defenses. A guide that can easily be adjuster to new fleet numbers AND prevents imposing yet another task on the GM's. As usual, letting GM's review defenses on a case by case scenario is a fine idea, but it robs the factions of the ability to determine where to invest their defenses. It also makes it unclear to a faction, say the Federation, whether we can trust the defenses at our border or not. Sure we could ask the GM's and they may outline defenses for EVERY system, but a new GM may be elected at some point and figure a formerly well defended planet shouldn't be so well defended (And even maybe be right in suggesting so).
How am I,as my factions highest ranked military leader (NPC's not withstanding) supposed to co-ordinate a defense that I myself have to consult someone else for at every turn because "I don't know my own defenses as a Vice Admiral"?
Also, while the attacker consulting a GM before attacking would prevent the defender from having to wait until he knows his defenses is awkward it still works fine in theory, but as an attacker having to wait for a response (Easily 7 hours sometimes depending on the time, work, school, sleep) before I can attack could be a serious Achilles heel in any military conflict. Its basically an handicap.
As for smaller fleet sizes, I could go for that, but if I take say; 20 ships and attack the empire, there is nothing stopping Pain from taking 30 ships to counter me. He attacks with later with 30 ships and I take 40 ships to counter him. Then we are back to the numbers game again, for in larger or lesser degrees, when it comes to warfare, it is always a numbers game.
Edit: Ori, per the defense guidelines,if I remember correctly only High priority systems are allowed Ground-Space weaponry.
FORCED roleplay, for faction maintenance purposes, is an constant obligation. No one wants to roleplay out of obligation. I myself sometimes CHOOSE to roleplay out of obligation, but the moment you have only the choice between obligated roleplaying or allowing your faction slowly crumble, that is the moment this RP dies.
Because in the end, there's a limit to how many obligations people want to commit to, thus the inevitable result is the demise of the factions.
As a half OCD, rule addicted, paranoid, distrustful and occasional megalomaniac. Leave the system bee as it is, its never gonna be perfect xD
"Seems like they are turning around." the man comments. "But why... Hmm". The astromech makes a snarky remark in response.
"Apologies, I should have realized they were fleeing from the mighty astromech." he jests. The droid eagerly confirms this.. fact.. and begins to move forward.
"Oh, I didn't mean you my friend, I was talking about the spare one, in the cargo pod." he teases.
The droid turns around and proceeds to threaten to electrocute the man. He lets a small laugh slip and says; "I yield, I yield. Led the way your majesty" and bows slightly.
Intentionally staying out of sight, the pair keeps their distance.
Your performance have been thoroughly disappointing. GTFO
Seems like I have a choice between lying, giving you a compliment or committing suicide. Gonna flip a coin for first and last choice.
OOC: AK, you may also be confused because I was confused myself and may have misunderstood your move. If the 24 our limit hadn't already expired, I might have asked you about it. However Ori was cracking out the whip ;D
They continue on foot running, or in case of the astromech, rolling behind the transit tube, anticipating an encounter soon.
OOC: I have no clue whats going on with the transit system, so I'll leave this move a bit short and unimaginative. Lol
Before the transit tube ever coming in visual range of the masked man and his astromech, it is detected and recorded by the recon drone unnoticed. The astromech receives the information at the same time as the man and he makes a suggestive nod to the droid.
"We seem to trapped and the party ahead doesn't seem intent on providing a warm welcome. So, let us retract the Bishop and send forward the Rook."
As it comes into visual sight and the unknown element approaches and spots them, they simply pretend that they have yet to spot the incoming transit tube. The astromech increases the speed of the transit. Then they jump off the back.
OOC: apologies for the delay.
As he examines the blocked hallway, he sighs. The astromech comments on the situation, confirming what the man is already thinking. It would seem to would be forced to use the transit system.
"It seems we have no other choice, I would have preferred a more silent approach and walking the distance might take too long. In any case, lets double back"
They hurry back to the transit system and board a transport. "Alright plug in and get us moving, but lets take it slow. I'll link you to the recon droid, it should make navigation easier in case of any obstacles."
They enter the hallway at the end of the room and proceeds though the corridor.
*Throws dice for succes* - 2
They fail to enter the hallway as the man trips and smacks his face into the ground and the droids battery runs dry.
I don't mind doing this D&D style, but otherwise a little more info would be nice xD
The man opens the suitcase he brought with him and takes several items from it which he places in belt pockets. He then begins piecing together something from multiple parts. Once assembled, the pieces form a small reconnaissance droid. He activates it and sends it to follow the transit system and relay information back to a wristband he carries on his arm.
Once dispatched, the man looks towards the hallway at the end of the room. "Lets see where this leads."
"Lets go.." the man signals to the droid, as he enters the maintenance hatch, waits the his droid to follow and then closes the hatch again behind him. Once closed, they use a lever on the wall to begin pressurizing the chamber before they proceed.
The pressurizing completes and they now open the internal hatch and enters the ship, not sure where they will end up except for the obvious fact they are on the engine levels.
"See if you can't find another access port and find out where on the ship we are. I don't wanna proceed further until we know more. And while your're at it, see if you can't get the status on the ships systems."
"Alright, lets go" the mans says as he exits the cockpit, bringing with him a metal suitcase. The astromech releases itself and the man grabs hold of it as it begins to use its small jet engines to propel itself forward. With the man hanging on tightly, they move towards one of the larger engine exhaust points on the Star Destroyer and proceeds to enter it.
The astromech comments on the byproducts of Ion drives. "I know, unless I want to die of radiation, we better find a maintenance hatch soon."
Apparently in a chatty mood, the astromech now comments on its reminder a day earlier that he should have brought gear with him that offered more protection.
"And who's gonna carry all this extra gear? You? I still haven't forgiven you for what you did to the ambassador whom mistook you for a coat rag.."
"Alright, up ahead, I think I see an access panel."
He lets go of his companion and carefully pushes himself away from the droid and over to the panel. The astromech opens one of its many compartments and hands the man a tool which he uses to remove the protective layer on top of the panel, revealing a droid access port.
"All right, do your thing." He moves away so that the astromech can approach, access the port and open a maintenance hatch.
"Oh and please hurry, I may not have decided to have children, but neither have I decided not too."
An TwinTail starfighters jumps in dangerously close to the engines of the star destroyer and moves even closer. A man wearing a black and gray uniform and a helmet disguising his face, and doubling as a breathing apparatus, is the pilot along with an Astromech.
"Quick, attach us next to the engines before our location can be tracked, if were lucky we weren't detected due to interference from the close proximity to the sun."
His astromech confirms they are in position and that the magnetic seals in the landing gear have activated.
"Then again, everyone on the ship is probably dead. Before to proceed, perform a scan of the ship, perhaps it will get us a clue to what we are dealing with.
In the meantime, I'll get ready for a spacewalk."
EU IV FTW!
Also.. Yugioh.. Pokémon?
You just want to win over me without me being able to call ******** xD
Nope. Go home.
Oh wait, you are! AHAHAHAHAHA!
Haha, perfect. xD
Vacation. In Serbia? Is that possible? xD
R.I.P Christopher Lee, aka Dracula, Saruman and Count Doku. :(
I didn't say they couldn't be subjective.
It does differentiate through time, and as we can see, mostly for the better. You mention we once cut off hands of thiefs and killed people for petty crimes, since we don't anymore I think we can safely claim that progression has happened in terms of morality.
Statistically, few modern governments do. Oppression is not as easy today as was centuries ago. A time when religious figureheads was the dominant source of morality btw.
I am not even gonna try and compare bestiality and pedophilia. But in the case of pedophilia it is a matter of maturity of mind. It has been scientifically proved that children introduced to sex, willingly or not, tend to, if not almost always, develop psychological disorders. Its not a matter of consent or lack of suffering during the act. It is about ensuring, the current and future wellfare of the individual. That, is the objective reasoning behind why it is wrong. It is in no way subjective morality.
You say without a god, right and wrong may fall prey to the changes to society. Yes you are right, but belief in a god(s) isn't foolproof either.
Relying on a god to dictate right and wrong or "good and evil", in the end still depends on what god people decides to believe in. In the past people have worshiped all kinds of gods, even other people whom they truly believed to be gods.
You're right, subjective morality is very flawed. After all, like most things its SUBJECTIVE, and has a large root in culture. As for kids taking up guns, I would say the above reasoning applies again. The same objective morality would condemn this because of a childs underdeveloped mind (In this case depends on its parents to provide guidance in life), just as it would condemn a pedophile.
One last note, I have Never... heard of a pedophile apologist. If you mistook my comments as apologizing for them, you misunderstand my meaning. I was arguing against the terms "good" and "Evil" as relevant terms in regard to morality.
"Without a source for morality, there is no such thing as good or evil."
And why is there a need for good and evil to exist? When all we need is the philosophy/concept of right and wrong. Using the concepts as right or wrong, we obligate ourselves to become better than we are and stand by our modern interpretation of these. Which by the way, in most if not all nations, does NOT morally support pedophilia and such.
No offense to anyone, but the word "evil" seems like a word that is most used when people fail to understand something. That said, I use the word myself at times but while I might completely detest what someones does and think what they are doing is wrong, labeling them as evil without any knowledge of them beyond their actions is definitely not being morally correct.
From my perspective, the terms good and evil merely unfairly labels people. Perhaps motsly in case of the latter. FX, some known instances of rape of children as been done by mentally ill people, some with adult bodies yet the mind of a six year old, causing an inner mental and biological conflict they themselves are incapable of understanding.
Are they evil? No. Was what they did wrong? Yes.
AK's suggestions seems very reasonable and they are hard to disagree with to be honest, my own lack of faith in people aside xD
That said, when it comes to fx astromechs/combat droids, we all know what they can and can't do (more or less), when it comes to the AI debate, we are talking about something more grand in scope I presume? AI's with the ability to hack a planets defenses, highly protected government and military systems and the like. Not astromechs hacking doors or combat droids providing a fast combat analysis and response (or similar).
I think it would help decision making, and the discussion itself, if Ori was to present his perspective/argument as well her in this thread.