Game designer, feminist, etc.
Right here, or if you prefer you can get it by direct download at Incursion-game.com
For the record though, I'm totally okay with people having qualms about the game, we try to take as much feedback as possible into account.
If you got Limbo for $2.50, you got it in a sale or off the back of the truck. The game isn't even out yet though, and we're only charging for the soundtrack right now, the beta is free.
Again, my objection is solely to this trailer. I was actually a pretty big fan of the original mod, although admittedly this whole shitstorm has soured my opinion somewhat.
Okay, so you officially don't understand a single term you just used.
Would someone care to explain to this guy what ADD, depression and self-harm are and how they actually work.
Cheers for sticking your neck out for us man, although there's probably not much point now man, it's a lost battle at this point.
I was trying to have a debate actually, but I got really tired of being shot down by people who couldn't substantiate their opinions.
Wow, that looks fantastic!
timmybus please stop! The irony, it's too much! You're killing me! xD
It's not about his intentions, it's about what impressions the trailer gives on nothing but its face value. That's the point, I'm not reading into this or guessing at all, whereas you are, by assuming something about the creators intentions that you don't know at all.
Someone else (who is evidently offended by this too) explains the problem with it far better than I have.
As for the free speech thing, yeah, that's totally fine, what's actually pretty ******* hypocritical is ruMpel deleting people's comments when they *rightfully* make him look bad by calling him out on a related instance. Free speech is a two way street.
And for the record, I think political correctness sucks too. I'm not offended by self-harm, my issue is that many people who self-harm WILL BE OFFENDED by this trailer.
Also warfare in games is fine, but Call of Duty is pretty ******* appalling, and sadly it represents the norm right now as far as that genre is concerned.
Thank you for missing the point of every comment I posted.
There's a big difference between covering a risky topic in your media or art (which is totally fine) and doing it in poor taste (which is not). My objection is solely to this trailer, which is guilty of the latter, but I'm hoping the custom story itself will be more tactful.
My issue is not with the topics, it's the delivery. If the custom story itself has themes of self-harm intelligently and sincerely written into it, then great, but all this trailer does it use for shock value because of its existing social stigma.
Again, I am totally TOTALLY okay with the subject matter, I'd just like it to have been more tentatively or purposefully dealt with in this trailer.
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Amusing, I don't think anyone who actually spends any time on a modding site can use that quip without irony.
I've been pretty busy working on my own game, I don't play all that many multiplayer things these days.
Actually I could stay around here as long as I want; it's a public forum, so I'm under no obligation to leave, other than of course to appease you flailing infants.
Believe me, I do.
They shouldn't "look down" on people for doing it, that's EXACTLY my point.
I'm saying it's wrong because it's just feeding off that social stigma. The CS itself might be fine, but making more than half of your trailer footage of Simon self-harming is just demonizing it and alienating that group.
Pahah. Sorry I didn't realise the "majority of the human race" had elected you as their spokesperson.
If you genuinely think that you know absolutely nothing about depression, self-harm, how incredibly common they are, or the already appalling social stigma built up around them.
What the **** is "for a mentally stable person" meant to mean you flippant prick?
And it isn't unique, it's contrived and predictable, that's what's offensive about it.
You're still expected to show the same level of social responsibility as everyone else, you ***. You don't have a right to offend people.
His comment on this occassion was fine, there was nothing wrong with it other than it made you look bad.
I doubt anyone in the CoD community is in any way disposed to intelligent debate, I hopped on this because I (perhaps naively) have a higher opinion of the modding community.
So apparently Rumpel is enough of a hypocrite that he fights for free expression but thinks it's okay to censor naysayers.
To reply to your (now deleted) comment: Wow. I knew Rumpel was an ***, but that's just absurd.
Yeah, we have this weird mentality right now that war games are somehow totally inoffensive despite being one of the most appalling genres out there.
And I'm not talking about ******* 9th Dynasty Samurai RTS games or whatever, I mean the ******** "semper fi" ones with needless amounts of throat stabbing, because apparently that's what gives the average gamer a boner these days.
Also good job deleting someone else's valid point on the self-harm thematics and the community's response to them. You're simultaneously fighting for a right to say whatever you want through your work, and censoring people who have a strong problem with the things you want to say.
That's the "other **** exists" argument, and it isn't a usable argument. Other offensive things existing isn't a justification for your specific offensive thing.
Again, my problem is with this trailer specifically.
This comment really didn't deserve to get buried.
So no, I don't think they're making fun of it, and perhaps the CS itself deals with the topic of self-harm tentatively rather than just for shock value, but this trailer itself is deeply offensive and pretty socially irresponsible.
I mean, in fairness, SoC was originally super broken, but that was also part of the charm I think.
This is interesting. I love how the whole team are putting their own individual mark on this; it's still STALKER, but conceptually, it's also its own thing, in terms of scale, depth, and (I feel) an artistry that wasn't present in the original. I've often heard Far Cry 2 referred to as "Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl, only not broken", which is a little unfair to both Far Cry 2 and STALKER, but yeah, what you're making here feels more like a Far Cry 2 than a STALKER: Redux, and that's cool.
Anyway, awesome work as always. Really excited to play this.
Maybe you guys should just do a LOZ-ish game at some point. I can imagine Jordan spriting some really awesome stuff for that.
Lol, well THIS needs to happen. :3
The ammo check at the end made me very happy. ^__^
This is great, really impressive.
Nice lighting, not quite so sure about the next screenshot. O_o
It's not so much the mod itself, and it's not that I feel they are making fun of these topics, it's that they're just lazily feeding off the social stigma. Using shots of Simon vigorously self-harming for half the trailer is lazy, because it just plays on people's existing mentality of "Only the seriously mentally disturbed self-harm". You only have to look at the sheer number of "Haha emo" comments that the screenshot from this CS got on facebook to know what people's opinions are, and demonizing it in the way that this trailer does just encourages that.
No one who had ever had serious problems with depression or anxiety would ever use it in the way that this trailer does. I'm telling you that for an absolute fact. I have a friend who is CURRENTLY grappling with depression, self-harm, and schizophrenia, and she would be offended THE **** OUT by this trailer.
Offensive to people who self-harm I mean, you're just feeding off the stigma it already has.
This is one of the problems I've always kind of had with the thematics of Cry of Fear. Self harm is strongly correlated with many forms mental illness, so sure, it's related to the game, but unless it's actually written into the story purposefully, it just seems like a cheap way to shock people.
I mean half this trailer was just Simon cutting himself vigorously, that's uncouth at best, and at worst it's actually offensive.
This looks pretty cool. Sadly the lack of a Linux build means that I can't play it. :(
It would still be awesome if you considered giving one of the high-power pistols rounds like these: X2extreme.com
even if it's purely cosmetic, it would be amazing detail.
Looks amazing. :D
That's a very slick trailer.
That looks boss. *slaps knee*
I love your avatar.
Call of Duty without the rubbish bits.
Very nice, looking forward to it.
Perhaps. If I'm being honest it was actually a really tough choice to pick one.
Looks very, very good, and Bugtrooper is right, like a hybrid of Abuse and Sword & Sworcery.
Yogtrailers nailed it in their coverage of this. I have to be honest and say what I think; in its current state at least, it looks awful.
Great animations, looks beautiful so far. I never doubted you guys. :)
Thanks Vcc2cc, we appreciate the feedback. We will probably upload most Alpha updates that we do, but we will only do news posts for the ones that contain finalized or important features, thus making it much easier to pick out the ones that are worth downloading. :)
This is really, really nice. Will you be using Impulse only for your own game? Or will you be releasing the updated version of Quake too? Because having seen the screenshots I don't think I could be happy without playing it.
Yeah, I have to agree with guywiththename and Argoon, LURK is definitely prettier, but that's not necessarily the best thing for an oppressive and frightening game like STALKER. I think that LURK with the Vanilla skybox would be fantastic looking though.