A game designer raised on a diet of Studio Ghibli films and point-and-click adventures. I also contribute to You Have Been Playing.
Cheers for sticking your neck out for us man, although there's probably not much point now man, it's a lost battle at this point.
I was trying to have a debate actually, but I got really tired of being shot down by people who couldn't substantiate their opinions.
Wow, that looks fantastic!
timmybus please stop! The irony, it's too much! You're killing me! xD
It's not about his intentions, it's about what impressions the trailer gives on nothing but its face value. That's the point, I'm not reading into this or guessing at all, whereas you are, by assuming something about the creators intentions that you don't know at all.
Someone else (who is evidently offended by this too) explains the problem with it far better than I have.
As for the free speech thing, yeah, that's totally fine, what's actually pretty ******* hypocritical is ruMpel deleting people's comments when they *rightfully* make him look bad by calling him out on a related instance. Free speech is a two way street.
And for the record, I think political correctness sucks too. I'm not offended by self-harm, my issue is that many people who self-harm WILL BE OFFENDED by this trailer.
Also warfare in games is fine, but Call of Duty is pretty ******* appalling, and sadly it represents the norm right now as far as that genre is concerned.
Thank you for missing the point of every comment I posted.
There's a big difference between covering a risky topic in your media or art (which is totally fine) and doing it in poor taste (which is not). My objection is solely to this trailer, which is guilty of the latter, but I'm hoping the custom story itself will be more tactful.
My issue is not with the topics, it's the delivery. If the custom story itself has themes of self-harm intelligently and sincerely written into it, then great, but all this trailer does it use for shock value because of its existing social stigma.
Again, I am totally TOTALLY okay with the subject matter, I'd just like it to have been more tentatively or purposefully dealt with in this trailer.
This comment has been posted in a private group.
Amusing, I don't think anyone who actually spends any time on a modding site can use that quip without irony.
I've been pretty busy working on my own game, I don't play all that many multiplayer things these days.
Actually I could stay around here as long as I want; it's a public forum, so I'm under no obligation to leave, other than of course to appease you flailing infants.
Believe me, I do.
They shouldn't "look down" on people for doing it, that's EXACTLY my point.
I'm saying it's wrong because it's just feeding off that social stigma. The CS itself might be fine, but making more than half of your trailer footage of Simon self-harming is just demonizing it and alienating that group.
Pahah. Sorry I didn't realise the "majority of the human race" had elected you as their spokesperson.
If you genuinely think that you know absolutely nothing about depression, self-harm, how incredibly common they are, or the already appalling social stigma built up around them.
What the **** is "for a mentally stable person" meant to mean you flippant prick?
And it isn't unique, it's contrived and predictable, that's what's offensive about it.
You're still expected to show the same level of social responsibility as everyone else, you ***. You don't have a right to offend people.
His comment on this occassion was fine, there was nothing wrong with it other than it made you look bad.
I doubt anyone in the CoD community is in any way disposed to intelligent debate, I hopped on this because I (perhaps naively) have a higher opinion of the modding community.
So apparently Rumpel is enough of a hypocrite that he fights for free expression but thinks it's okay to censor naysayers.
To reply to your (now deleted) comment: Wow. I knew Rumpel was an ***, but that's just absurd.
Yeah, we have this weird mentality right now that war games are somehow totally inoffensive despite being one of the most appalling genres out there.
And I'm not talking about ******* 9th Dynasty Samurai RTS games or whatever, I mean the ******** "semper fi" ones with needless amounts of throat stabbing, because apparently that's what gives the average gamer a boner these days.
Also good job deleting someone else's valid point on the self-harm thematics and the community's response to them. You're simultaneously fighting for a right to say whatever you want through your work, and censoring people who have a strong problem with the things you want to say.
That's the "other **** exists" argument, and it isn't a usable argument. Other offensive things existing isn't a justification for your specific offensive thing.
Again, my problem is with this trailer specifically.
This comment really didn't deserve to get buried.
So no, I don't think they're making fun of it, and perhaps the CS itself deals with the topic of self-harm tentatively rather than just for shock value, but this trailer itself is deeply offensive and pretty socially irresponsible.
It's not so much the mod itself, and it's not that I feel they are making fun of these topics, it's that they're just lazily feeding off the social stigma. Using shots of Simon vigorously self-harming for half the trailer is lazy, because it just plays on people's existing mentality of "Only the seriously mentally disturbed self-harm". You only have to look at the sheer number of "Haha emo" comments that the screenshot from this CS got on facebook to know what people's opinions are, and demonizing it in the way that this trailer does just encourages that.
No one who had ever had serious problems with depression or anxiety would ever use it in the way that this trailer does. I'm telling you that for an absolute fact. I have a friend who is CURRENTLY grappling with depression, self-harm, and schizophrenia, and she would be offended THE **** OUT by this trailer.
Offensive to people who self-harm I mean, you're just feeding off the stigma it already has.