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Yea, I agree. LEGO games are pretty cool and LEGO LOTR looked cool... but there is no way I'm going to buy it now. I may see the Hobbit movies; but I'll try my best to never touch anything WB apart from that.
If it does turn out that WB shuts you down, what will you guys do? Will you make an conversion mod with some new IP, or release some minor LOTR themed mods, or just disband?
If it tuns out that MERP is gone, I'd still really like the team to continue on to a different total conversion. I really like your development ideas and what I can see of your excitation.
If it comes down to it, do you think you might try and do a fundraiser to get a lawyer? Try to get some awesome people to endorse you (Notch [minecraft guy] comes to mind) or do a kick-starter.
I'd hate to see this mod die.
If all else fails, keep working on it without publicity until 2043. Then Tolkien's works will become public domain (unless Christopher claims to have been a co-creator)and you can release it. :)
Christopher Tolkien doesn't have the rights... WB has them. The Tolkien estate forfeited them when the movies wear made. They have lost the rights to LOTR and The Hobbit books, but retain the rights to everything else.
That's my understanding.
That is also my hope. If they did cease and desist, then we would have heard. That we haven't heard means conversations are being made, and hopefully compromise is achieved.
Hopefully their trying to shut them down is made on 'we are big and scary... stop' not 'we have reasonable legal complaints'
Wait... couldn't they just spell everything incorrectly? Then Gaandalph and Frohdoh can still have their epic adventure to Moredoor!
I have a bad feeling about this...
I would hate Warner Bros forever if they shut this mod down.
I do love the model, it just seems way too thin. When you imagine it in real space (as it's probably less than a foot and a half long) it seems ridiculously thin. Sure against a hobbit it looks alright, but if Gandalf picked it up it would be like a twig; and we are to imagine a elf warrior using it.
Though I digress; it's not worth a lengthy argument. And we all have our likes and dislikes as you said.
p.s. I did more than just squash the image... :p
Lore... yea that :)
It was a Elven dagger; used as a short sword by a hobbit, but for even a dwarf, it would be a dagger. Remember Thorin used Orchist just fine.
The size of the guard is too small for the design and the blade is too thin by my eye. It was obviously designed as a sword for the movie.
I think it should be more like this:
I.imgur.com (crappy paint.net edit)
Sting is meant to be a dagger. That doesn't look like a dagger. Sure I'm being pedantic... but I want it as law friendly as possible (unlike the movies).
Not to say that that SWORD isn't beautiful.
Got board and made this.
It's a map that shows the scale of MERP. I find it a much more easy to interpret than the hight-map they showed off a few months ago (That hight-map pic is what I scaled of BTW, so it should be pretty accurate).
I want it.
What makes you think that? It seems to me that modelling and texturing Minas Tirith would be completely against the team's development plan.
They said the Edenwaith was likely when I asked them a while back. I don't think it'll be Gondor; it's to darn complex and big. The shear content that would be needed for The Misty Mountains, Mirkwood or Gondor seems to me more than they are likely to undertake as the second region. Edenwaith then is the only neighbouring region they could do.
I'd like them to make their way up to Ered Luin, hitting The Shire and most of Eriador. Then do Mirkwood and The Misty Mountains and coming finally to Gondor and Mordor. Having Gondor as a climactic point in their development would be good for publicity and whatnot, I think.
Can we expect some news soon? It's been a while since we've gotten an update... I'm getting anxious.
They are not evil, and do not wish to destroy all our hopes and dreams... so I'm sure we won't get some crap as bad as that... i mean... Golum is being all freindly with orcs and witch kings... like... miss the point much?
I don't know about PJ's ideas on how everything looks. I'm pretty sure what they are going to do with Kili in the Hobbit will be bad. He did Orthanc oddly. Weathertop didn't seem very towerish. The Dwarves in the Hobbit movie won't be clothed in colourful cloaks...
But I guess mostly it's alright.
I feel your concern is wasted on the subject. I have full faith that the MERP Team will do a fantastic job of making a truly impressive, immersive and enjoyable environment. Full of rich storytelling and visuals that will delight and fulfil your wants and needs for the ultimate Tolkien experience, short of actually reading the masterful writings of Tolkien himself.
I'm certain that if the team gets to a point that they fell what you fear is true, that they will double their efforts to make the environment more fulfilling before they release.
I feel the exact opposite. The huge expanse, I'm sure, will be filled well. The way they are developing and releasing each region at a time ensures this.
Furthermore; if they made middle earth any smaller, it would seem cramped. If it was halved like you suggest; then Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli's epic feat of crossing the land of Rohan in such a small time on foot, would be tarnished. The same could be said for many events; after all, the Lord of the Rings is a story about a journey, not a bunch of events.
Also... they already have the completed height-map, so making a new, smaller one, would only serve to hinder the progress of the game.
1: An Orc
2-7: I don't think they have put too much thought into exact details in the main plot department. What they are doing now is figuring out their new game-play mechanics, side quests and building the world (I assume).
That is a damn shame... though I would think that Tolkien, being the way it is, hearing a different version of a song will be as most of the recounts of midle earth are: altered by time. So long as the MERP team has some awesome poets it'll still be great.
The books are recounts of recounts. They are writing that have had many iterations and additions by many people according to the lore, so you making your own additions and iterating it into something so real as this mod will still be consistent with the lore.
edit: That was written rather badly... I'm tired.
That said... it would be freaking awesome... and maybe Beorn got his freak on a whole lot more than I had anticipated.
I would highly doubt that. Either you would need to play as an already established character (that's unlikely. I think Frodo will be the only one)or invent a new Beorning. Beornings are too few to invent without being against lore (as far as I know).
What?! Poems and songs will not be direct quotes!? That would be very disappointing.
Look on the previous page of comments. It was just asked.
I like to think of the purse as more than an alarm...
But if the purse seem to obscure, then can we have conversations with our legendary sword we find in some cave or tomb?
Have you not read The Hobbit?
Bilbo tries to pickpocket William the troll; and to his surprise, the purse he pulls out asks 'Ere, 'oo are you?'
Troll's purses are the mischief :)
How are you guys going to handle the abundance of talking animals and inanimate objects? Will we be able to talk to the purse of a troll we kill? Can we hear news of battles and other events from birds?
I'd really like to see this part of Tolkien's work actually used by someone. In the movie and all the other games I've played, they shy away from that whimsical and mystical side of Middle-Earth.