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It can be a issue if they have copyright on the name, i don't know if they have, but imo is better if you guys talk with them just to make things clean, this is just a personal opinion but the same naming can also leave to confusion to both parties, is never good practice to make a game with the same name as another.
Guys be careful there's another game in the making also called cradle, you can find their green light page here. Steamcommunity.com
And their home page here.
Is better if you talk with them about the naming.
rename the doom3.exe to darkatena.exe and all AMD A.I problems will be solved. Don't forget to edit the Desolated.bat file to point to the new .exe
why are you guys making a dx10 render anew? Don't you have access to the later games engines?
Has someone that is interested in making a horror game i would like if you elaborated on that, why do you think the above image have a better horror atmosphere then the bottom one? I'm not messing with you this is a genuine question.
You can compare the atmosphere of both games and IMO they both look good and scary but you can't really compare the gameplay, Outlast is more similar to the Amnesia gameplay then to Silent Hill, they are totally different. In one you can't fight back, you just hide and run, on the other you can become a "terminator" and kill everything around you.
IMO they have so much differences that saying they used your reference is a stretch, and yours is not like it looks different from any other morgues i seen represented in games, they all look almost alike.
Having said that, they both look very nice and shows that you guys have what it takes to make this a fantastic mod and perhaps a commercial game, the quality is there.
Congrats on the media attention that you are having, that is always a morale booster, and i hope it makes you continue your work.
Now i must say this, i'm following you for sometime now and has always your normal maps are very exaggerated and makes your textures look very noisy and ugly, you should really think about toning down the normal mapping strength because it will have a large impact on how people will perceive your game, also the wood beam on the ceiling has the textures in the wrong direction. I hope my criticism instead of making you be mad at me and ignore my suggestions, make you see what you can improve and so make your game look much better.
I have no doubt this is the Morrowind engine, but to me it looked like the oblivion engine heavily modded. :D
Also some of the assets look models straight from oblivion, so that also help the illusion.
And just to show that is the art that make the game not the engine.
nice work guys good bug hunting, i would love to play but work take most of my time now.
Thanks for the reply it makes more sense now. :)
I still can't entirely comprehend how without the source code for the goldsource engine you guys can change so much, and if source code is not needed why something like what you guys show was not possible before even tho other just talented developers worked with it!?
nice but footsteps sounds are two high.
Very good. :)
Nice job guys releasing a game is always a achievement and from what i can see it will be a nice game after you crush all bugs. Now i'm also here to confirm the crash at the start of level 2 and also crashing when i got out of the house when the first glimpse of the enemy is seen, then another crash on the hotel, didnt played more. The game is very unstable right now, many crashes and for example the first time i saved the game using the book, the save became corrupted and i could not start with it, but i must say this was a one time flock tho, it worked on other tries. You guys also need to work on the performance side of things, theres to many fps's fluctuations on a game that don't seams to ask for much, for example on the forest the fps's go down a big way, this when many trees are on view, perhaps delete some of the tree models and replace them with flat quads with a tree image on it, maybe it will help. Also another suggestion please replace the font you use on the menu, at 1080p i can't read it very well. Hopes this helps
Nice work, this scene is very atmospheric.
Nice work but i must say the pipe looks strange on this kind of corridor, and you should use more furniture to give a used look to the place.
This is something Amnesia needed some maps going away from the old mansion look.
Yes Unity is a awesome engine, but imo only the Pro version deserves any thought at all, the tools are also very good no doubt about it, but to be so easy to work with, the Unity engine developers add to close the engine source access and sacrifice one thing that to me is important on any engine and game, modding support. I will even say Unity is a danger for the future of modding if everyone starts making games on it.
But as i said above if You don't care about modding and you don't mind shelling 1500 dollars for the pro version then go for it, you sure will have a fantastic engine in your hands.
Unity has no BSP modeling tools, it uses models made from 3D apps like blender, Modo, Maya, 3DMax, etc it's a totally different way of working compared to a BSP based engine like Source. If you aren't used to constructing entire levels on a 3D modelling tool, it will be strange and hard at first.
Second theres no modding support on Unity, it is easy to make games for it, because is a closed box and everything is made based on scripting exclusively, if modding is something you want for your game then stay away from it, third and more important in my opinion, if things didn't changed Unity FREE has no real time shadows support even simple characters shadows, and Beast, the light mapping tool, only bakes direct lighting on the free version of the engine, so you will be unable to make the lighting as rich has the one on the Source pics, you can of course go around that limitation by using your 3D modeling tool to bake the lighting, but dynamic objects like characters and physical objects will not interact with the baked light at all, they will be totally black. IMO if you don't want to give 1500 dollers to pay for the pro version of the engine where this would be totally possible, then just forget Unity Free and stay on Source or go for a much better engine on the free version, for example NeoAxis engine free version has everything that the paid version has minus the ability to sell games, and the tools are nice not Unity nice but near.
I'm not a woman and i'm also not a natural English speaker, so if you don't want a strong accent on your voice acting i don't think i can be of any use to you, but i will say this the English quote you have above is full of syntax errors.
IMO It should be something like this.
"Often I Hide myself in a secret room in the prison. I can take a rest here. I'm studying black magic for around two months now. No one knows about it, knows that I learned how to make hard wood start to rot and decay. My father (dad) was a very intelligent man, he constructed this place only (just) for me. In the future I want to be as dangerous as he was. People will fear (be scared of) me, even my brother and my friends. I feel it, I feel my power growing. Everyone will pay me tribute, Kate." "
Hope this is of any help and you find the necessary voice actress.
Continue the great work man. :)
Just make the blood more visible by giving it specular highlight (makes it look more liquid and organic) and it will be perfect, no need for a glow or even to change the rectangular form IMO.
The normal map is too strong, imo ditch the normal map and just use specular to give it the wheat shiny look.
Why is that a good news for modders? Unity afaik has no modding support built in, you can't download the Unity editor or engine and mod a already out Unity Game.
Imo Unity is a danger for modders, and it is picking so much rep that everyone and their mother are now using it. Theres much better inexpensive engines out there if modding support is a fact, for example C4 engine, Esenthel and NeoAxis are very good engines with nice modding capabilities, especially the C4 engine.
Do i need to have UDk installed to play? I'm asking because it gives me a error about not finding udk.exe
Fantastic news man i'm glad you didn't give up.
is it me or you made a feathered Rex? If so, is it proven that they add feathers?
Nice concept, continue the great work guys.
Looks fantastic, guys congrats, but one question if i may, on the trailer is not the narrator the same voice actor that participated on Amnesia the dark descent? And i really gotta an Amnesia vibe from the looks from the voice and from the music, was that intentional, did you guys got inspiration from it?
Nice but i think there will be a problem for non english speakers like myself.
congrats on this man will download it right away. :)
Looks very good as always.
Sad to fatal is gone but i loved Onirica and i didn't knew it was yours, congrats.
sorry for the extremely late reply but i was very busy and then forgot about this, did what you said and the performance jump was considerable so yes the "pretty water" is to blame here.
yes but in real life shadows are not pitch black they have bounced light from the environment so a real night vision mode does make shadows less dark, you could apply a extra ambient light to the level to make shadows less black when the goggles are on and hide it when they are off, don't know if this is doable on the stalker engine tho. You could also if possible use a post process shader that mimics the photoshop levels.
Looks cool but what purpose does they have? None of the visions really helped you much (in the video) a shadow was still pitch black no matter what vision mode you used.
Very nice continue doing a excelent job, you have a fan in me.
By browsing the forum link that you gave me for AMD and darkplaces problems something came to my attention, it seems the water maybe the culprit here, in the forum they say the "pretty water" on darkplaces rapes AMD cards. And you have a small water pool in the exact place that is causing the extremely bad performance for me.
Hum, Thanks for the suggestion but even with crossfire disabled performance is still very bad, do you have a Nvidia GPU, what is your fps's when looking to the center of the room? It could certainly be a combination of an AMD OpengL driver problem with your game, plus the fact that you have, imo, to many shadow casting lights, visible at the same time when we look to the center of the room, i counted a total of 6 that is overkill, for example when i look to the corners where you have a single light, performance jumps considerably from 8 fps's to more than 40 fps's. Please don't take this wrong but you should not have more than 4 shadow casting lights visible per frame, you should also be careful with overlapping light volumes, i know this because i'm modding the idtech 4 engine and this engine is very similar, if you enable the r_showoverdraw command and look to the center you will see what i mean.
Performance very bad on my PC when looking to the center of the room where the tree and the water is. Literally 5 fps's or less.
System - Radeon HD5770x2 , corei7 860 2.8GHz, 8Gb DDR3 dual channel NBF 2407.5MHz, ASUSTeK P7P55 WS , SoundBlaster Audigy 4, Win7 X64
Driver - Catalyst 14.4, w/stock settings.
Sreen res - 1920*1080
The problem like i said is not visual difference even tho you will find that some more advanced effects like Parallax Occlusion Mapping and others do not work with SM1.1, the problem is that SM 1.1 shaders are so old (like i said SM 1.1 is dx7/dx8.1) that GPU makers don't care about anymore, so driver support will be hit and miss, especially on more modern GPU's. Your GPU supports SM 2.0 and if it runs well then use that path instead because that is dx9a or dx9b, SM 3.0 is dx9c and GPU makers still support it well. By doing so you will have two benefits, first assurance that GPU makers will still support your game on their drivers, and the ability to implement more advanced shader effects if you so desire.
That is sad to know about the 64bits OS problems, but i still don't know what you mean by absolute pitch black transparent, does LS3D use alpha maps by the means of a black and white image where black is transparent and white is opaque? Perhaps you are referring to the lack of alpha blending where instead of only a black and white texture you can also have a grayscale one? The jagged edge you are referring to is a black outline around alpha images? If so use this trick to get rid of the problem just extend colors in the texture outward into transparent areas by one pixel (or more).
Decals are just a plane with a alpha mapped image some units above the surface, so if you used that trick before there is nothing preventing you from using it again. To solve Z-fighting just move the plane up some more units, it will solve the problem, about the alpha map issues, what are they? Doesn't LS3D support it well?
They are not doing everything from scratch the engine they are using is the Ogre engine they are just modifying it so it can read morrowind original assets.
You are free to disagree of course but imo is all a matter of gameplay, is all fine and dandy when you give choice to the player and i'm not certainly against big number of guns but problems arise when you include ones that unbalance the gameplay, when you can get them early on (is not the reason here tho has E.Nigma42 explained).
Nothing against that and just to clarify i didn't said i don't like them, I said they looked overpowered.
Hum, imo they are overpowered, even if in real life they are like that, with a automatic pistol like this i don't need a normal pistol or a submachine gun, and so this kind of weapons become useless. IMO you guys instead of trying to implement all kind of weapons that exist in the world, think of the kind of impact they will have on the gameplay and try to only implement the ones that give something to the gameplay but do not retract from it, again just my opinion and advice but the final word is yours.
But this is why i think this kind of weapons should not be included.
1 - IMO they make normal pistols and submachine guns useless (because is a pistol and a submachine gun in one).
2 - By making the above guns useless you don't need to carry them so it has an impact on the carry capacity (gives you more room to carry other stuff) and so gamers will try to get them early on has possible.
3 - The way to make them less available to counteract the problems mentioned above would be to make them more expensive (You could make them very rare tho) than the other weapons, and why would a automatic pistol be more expensive than say a MP5 submachine gun?
The original stalker (the alpha version) add working vehicles and stalker lost alpha (based on the leaked alpha version) also has them so the original vision for stalker demanded them. So introducing vehicles in this mod is the right thing to do imo.
This screenshot looks really like stalker but unfortunately this is the exception and not the rule. I need to ask are you guys trying to faithfully reproduce the Stalker look on the Cryengine 2? Or are you guys just trying to make a game similar to stalker but not necessarily look like the xray engine stalker? Btw does cryengine 2 supports dynamic wet surfaces to simulate wet floor and dry floor when on cover like on the Xray engine?
This is some of the best texturing i ever seen.
Two things i don't like on this list.
The removal of the grenades from Monolith and Bandits, everyone should be able to use them just like in real life.
Replacement of Duty and Freedom propaganda for music, why, because is more immersive to ear propaganda in the Zone, it makes sense, not only because of the factions wars but also because of their character, Duty and Freedom are trying to make people join their ranks and cause not give music espectacles in the zone.
Is just reflections and in game i'm sure it will look better because of the movement.
You sure have fantastic artists lets hope you have as good gameplay developers.
Nice teaser :)
Looking nice guys.
Continue doing a great job guys, but this needs to be more known, i found about it just by accident when browsing GOG forums.
this feature sounds very good congrats, but one thing that you guys have still to solve is the instability of the ragdolls, on almost all videos that you guys blast a enemy, some of his limbs gets stretched when ragdolling.
For the love of the game
Merry christmas guys.
Fantastic work man you are a superb modeler. :)
I don't have many free time to devote to mods now with university and work, but tell me what models do you need and i will see if i can make some of them, no character models tho not my speciality.
Here is my portfolio
fantastic guys looks very original.
Nice work i will indeed try this one has well. Don't give up continue doing what you love.
Looks good but consider using a hidden ramp on the stairs (disable collision on the stairs itself) so the character controller do not jump like that when going up or down stairs, that is how Remedy (makers of the Max Payne and alan wake) and others solved the same problem.
Nice work i like it. :)
Will we see pinhead on this game?
Has always nice work.
Very nice looking can't wait to see the bugs coming my way on it.
Nice, i also start all my organic models with a simple box modeled cage. :)
Nice texturing, but the weapon is maybe very low poly to be used has the first person weapon? See your messages i have a surprise for you. :)
Very good job, and is nice to see for the first time something looking professional made with Adventure Maker, i hope others follow your steeps.
Looks fantastic. :)
Hum now that i'm seeing the model textured, i think that using real geometry for the grate thing of the place where the display rests, is a waist of polygons, that effect could very easily be faked with normal map, and will even help on the performance on low end GPU's.
Sorry if my critics seam a little harsh but i just want to help you make your gamer better.
Again very nice model, the edge flow seams to be very good indeed. :)
Nice to see that you will update the the normal maps they indeed looked very excessive in their power, also from the texture files on your last demo i saw that you have the specular maps very strong you should make then darker so your materials do not look like wet surfaces or in some cases like molten glass, has you are taking inspiration from Amnesia see how they made their specular maps, it will help you a tonne.
Good luck with your game and funding campaign.
Fantastic work man as a mapper i always missed this feature on idtech 4, this feature alone imo makes it worthy to buy your game for idtech 4 moders.
FANTASTIC!!!!! enough said.
The second i saw the image it reminded me of Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. :D
Yes i still don't comprehend how they can do that with only the HL1 SDK and no access to the render source code, is bloody amazing.
Continue the fantastic work. :)
Now we are talking, continue the fantastic work. :)
So instead of saying to me "Ok thanks for your opinion but don't worry it will look better" you say i lack common sense and give me a condescending reply, i know you don't own me anything has this is a free mod, but the lack of professionalism you seam to show and with how you reply to potential users or even partners, will bite you one day in the *** and perhaps it may be one of the reasons you seam to be low on team members. With that good luck on your modding and game developing endeavors.
If that 0.9 peace means the human heart area then is wrong, it is in the middle of the chest not on the left breast.
oh i see that is the door where you need to take that glowing ball to the other side of the maze for it to open. :) Also i love the lighting in the scene you are really capturing that Egyptian tomb feeling at lest in my opinion.
Looks fantastic for a Mafia 1 scene :) , also shaders are never CPU intensive they are GPU intensive because they run on the graphics card, btw now a days almost all games are GPU heavy not CPU heavy.
Things that run on the CPU on most all games now, audio, AI and physics, all the rest is GPU only.
Fantastic video and very funny i hope all the success to you guys.
For the game looks certainly cool, but on Wikipedia it says that is not proven that does images on dendera represent a electrical lighbulb of any kind, it says : "The view of Egyptologists is that the relief is a mythological depiction of a djed pillar and a lotus flower, spawning a snake within, representing aspects of Egyptian mythology."
Is hard for me to believe they add invented the lightbulb and a way to get electricity to that same lightbulbs and not have any physical evidence of that on the thumbs excavations, also for a lightbulb you need translucent glass and all the man made glass on that period was opaque and colored used for jewellery, amulets and the occasional small receptacle.
Fantastic work, congrats. :)
Thanks for the info :), it just shows how modifiable all the id and valve engines are fantastic work guys.
How the hell did you guys included dynamic shadows on the HL1 engine!? Do you guys have access to the engine source code?
Sorry if my reply is not what you where expecting but has a fan of your work my job should to give you guys my true opinion not saying "guys that looked awesome!!" (even though that is what all developers want to ear) but on the backstage think man that really needs more work. Once again i gave you my true opinion and i just hope that instead of discouraging you guys it makes you more strong, also i realized now that my BOD remark was unnecessary and for that i'm 100% sorry. :(
Ok i applause the effort but i really can't say i liked the physics behavior, even Severance blade of Darkness a 2001 game add more "realistic" physics behavior, if you guys can't make it better then IMO you should kill physics altogether and go static, there's no shame on that, id decided the same for Rage. Your work so far looks so professional and nextgen that again imo having so old school and lackluster physics does your guys no good.
Sorry Nicolas i hope you comprehend my opinion.
Thanks will do, i will report if something doesn't work.
Problems playing this mod in ultra mode, because of the launching method i'm unable to use RadeonPro to disable catalystAI or at lest i don't know how. :(
Very well done, but is this ingame or a render?
As always fantastic level design, if you aren't already working in the industry i can see a job offer in your future for you or the team member that did this fantastic maps.
Don't take them seriously man just continue doing your great work. :)
Good to see a update from you. :)
As always looks promising.
Looks fantastic. :D
Sounds good thanks for the info. :)
looks good and they sure travel fast :D , will you guys make the water more realistic? Imo is a very important peace of your game world and should get some more love, the Unigine based game Oil Rush has a nice water that could give you guys some ideas, another question, will the boats be animated (moving Oars) and perhaps have moving or stationary sailors on board?
Oh, i clicked the "Don't push" button!! lol
No problem, my kind words are giving to does that deserve it. ;D
Nice :D i love your User Interface idea.
Fantastic concept and modeling, btw you guys should also announce the game on the C4 forums. :)
The fire looks good but the sails should be bulging because of the wind force, right now they look like simple planes, not very realistic. What kind of camera system will you guys implement on this game? 3rpRPG, RTS, FPS?
The Avatars look fantastic!
Nice concept. :)
Do this uninstall the drivers like normal and restart the PC then delete any folder on your PC with the name AMD or ATI that belong to the graphics system BUT don't delete any AMD folder that belongs to the mainbord chipset (if you have a AMD CPU) or even the AMD dual core optimizer folder, also don't forget to make hidden folders visible, after doing that use CCleaner to clean the registry, restart the PC again and install the old driver.
P.s- if you are afraid of deleting the folders your self then you can use a software called driver sweeper that will do that for you, but i don't know if it is still free.
I don't know how you are making the models for this or what the engine supports or not, but you shouldn't need 90.000x90.000 textures (is not even possible btw GPU's can only render till 8192x8192), if you can give different materials to surfaces is totally possible to bake shadows on the models without sacrificing resolution, if you can't then the only other way i know is using a second uv channel to drive the lightmapps but the engine need to support that.
You need to bake lightmaps in your 3d tool because right now the lack of shadows makes it look very flat.
looks very good.
You need to tweak the mod options the default ones don't work the same for all, for example to me it made the game dark for others they made the game bright, just spend some time on the mod menu changing values and you will be surprised.
looks very good, i'm tracking. :)
Portuguese BR or PT?
Nice work guys :) btw don't they need bigger ears to be goblins?
Don't be discouraged by a new competitor that uses some shiny new engine, because of that he will always have more work then you to achieve that kind of quality that he shown in his video, by working on a engine like LS3D you have the advantage that low poly, low shaders engines gives less work on the art side more work on the gameplay side, gameplay will be what makes or breaks your mod not graphics. Now continue the great work.
Can't play, loading times are just crazy on my wxp machine with 2GB of RAM and a AMD HD2600 AGP using 11.10 drivers, normal ET loads much much faster.
Nice teaser, and the mod looks fantastic.
É muito lowpoly para ser usada como o modelo principal FPS mas para 3ªPerson ou para as armas que se encontram no chão serve muito bem.
Eu enviei-te um PM, pois estou muito interessado em participar no desenvolvimento deste jogo.
E já agora porque não o NeoAxis engine é baseado no Ogre Engine mas tem tudo o que faz falta para fazer um jogo, o Ogre pelo contrario é apenas um Render Engine.
Do you have eye problems? Or maybe is your monitor, it looks fine to me.
Fantastic image probably the best one so far from this mod imo.
One thing though the armature of the soldier should be more shiny them that, it is metal after all, now looks like is made of rock or something.
yes i would like that also.
Looks very good and the guy in the video is very funny. :D
Nice work, but don't forget to dirt it up, put some trash on the floor and graffiti on the walls and some dirt has well, take out some tiles from that tiled floor. On the lighting side make one of them broken, etc.
In resume make it has if people live there for ages.
Has this was posted on April 1st i really HOPE this is not a joke, because real time Global illumination would be AWESOME!!!
As i said nice texturing but for a night scene it is to bright, you should play more with shadows, make the scene a little more dark, so the street lamps light cone is more visible.
Good work with the texturing.
enhanced normal maps indeed, are they based on highpoly source objects?
A game engine needs to be flexible and abstracted from the kind of game you will make on it, theres games that use a custum engine made for their particular game/gameplay, with a engine like that you would need to change the engine code and tools to make a diferante genre of game, but comercial engine like Gamebryo and any new engine for that matter are developed to be separated from the games, so you can use the engine to make a RPG a FPS a Race simulation a MMO, etc in the same engine using the same tools.
Very nice indeed. :)
Valve is not a Indie studio in the way i see indie studios, yes they are independent and yes that's what indie means but the word indie studio is for the most part used to classify small teams even if they have publishers, Valve is BIG and a AAA game maker developer, for example the Penumbra developers add publishers for their first 3 games and were still considered a indie studio.
Make the box small so it more feats the sitting character, right now he has is but inside it: :D
You will. :)
Go prospero!! Make this wonderful game live forever.
I'm also a spearhead user. :)
By the way don't forget to buy support medals and your spearhead unit patch on-site will grow to be a thing of beauty, i personally call it the ultimate spearhead support patch.
Yes Spearhead is correct, that account will give you access to the 2ª and 3ª game of the IM trilogy for free (and other goodies), you can also convert support medals (5€ each) to a spearhead account if you buy enough of them.
So if you don't have enough now to buy the full Spearhead or even the frontline account them just buy support medals and you will support the AAAindie idea, the making of this game and also maybe have exclusive early access to the multiplayer preview slice, ZPS did that with Running Man.
I BELIEVE!!! and you guys will believe also. ;)
Awesome stuff. Continue the good work i will be waiting for it. :)
where is the edit bottom?
Sorry for the grammatical errors but when i made that translation my English was not very good. (not that is now any better :P )
Will you guys be able to achieve the same level of quality as in the CE2 scenes with the volumetric light (god rays) and dynamic lighting? If so them good if not them is a shame it was what made the scenes look so fantastic.
By the way, i personally, am tired of the UE3 engine looks and i hope you guys can be able to diferenciate your selfs from all UE3 games out there, good luck and good work.
Hi Esfumato nice to know that Prospero still supports Severance, i don't know how he have the patience as severance is so old and don't even work on the new OS's, but I'm glad he does. I LOVE severance and every time that i see something about it i cry inside because i can't play it anymore. (Vista 64bits)
Good work on the map, by the way, are you guys using the dark mod ambient light system? If not i recommend it because some ambient light on that shot would do wonders. ;)
What kind of animal have the eyes in their mouth? :P
Thats the poster that is in max payne 1 and is a tribute from remedy to a great mod called KungFu.
Nice interview i like your sense of humor. :)
Nice classmates(:O)...ops, i mean nice T-shirts.
Looks good just like the first one. Good luck.
That's why he is already working as professional level designer. :)