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same here for tld. But that's the point, really. It's already released and wb can't take it away from you now. What killed MERP is the very reason why there are so many signers for the petition, it's just too popular.
More because those mods were already released before WB got the chance to C&D them.
I think not. The management change only concerned the movie & television department (which admittedly is probably the largest). So I don't think this is going to change their policy towards protecting their gaming copyrights.
And limited time. I think time is the most critical factor in creating an excellent game. You can have all the money in the world, but still only be able to make mediocre games if you're on a tight schedule with everything you make. For you're not going to increase the development speed in the early conceptual stage (which is the most critical stage for any project in my opinion), as great ideas need time to settle in and be thought through.
WB has the right to be hypocrite, for surely they can not C&D all the fan art being created. The reason why MERP is being singled out like this, is the very reason why you came here in the first place: MERP really stands out from the crowd, as it is such a promising project that, I think, would redefine the concept of modding and even gaming, together with the other great modding projects out there. If these kind of mods do not send some sort of signal to greedy publishers, I don't know what will...
I'm not here to defend WB's queer ways. It's obvious that they reason along those lines, as they only care about money and so this C&D has to have something to do with that. There's no real point in arguing about what moves them, for that won't change matters, nor will it provide comfort (I know that much by now).
Yes, but I think they consider MERP as a big commercial threat...
I couldn't agree more. We're not going to win this fight openly, WB is already to deep in this to back out now. A non-LoTR quote, for once:
WB: ''By noon this day, you will all be dead men!
The thousand nations of the Persian Empire descend upon
you! Our arrows will blot out the sun!''
MERP:''Then we will fight in the shade'' :)
Is this the first time you read it? If so, you should probably read it again to fully grasp and appreciate the story it's trying to tell ;) Or at least that's my experience. When I first read it, I was a little put off by the style of the storytelling, but after reading it a couple of times I really think that it's right up there with LoTR (perhaps I secretly even prefer The Silmarillion).
There is no real winner in this situation. For I think WB will never lift the C&D, but they, in turn, have lost a lot of potential profit due to the petition, while not gaining anything from the C&D itself. So it's a real sad outcome all in all.
In the end the MERP team will be better off luckily, as they can just continue on with a new awesome project. WB however will forever (relatively speaking) be the bad guy, that destroyed a beautiful fan initiative (and so ofcourse breath life into another, new, excellent mod). I think it is now safe to assume that this mod is (or soon will be) dead, yet death is just another path ;)
It wouldn't be if they'd continue working on it during that time. Progress would be slow because of what Nuvendil said, but it would be progress nonetheless. The problem with this scenario however, is that we are not sure about the license renewal. We also do not know which company will be the next in line (working your *** off without recognition during those 1,5 years, to then be C&D'ed all over again doesn't seem a nice prospect to me)...
Collateral damage :)
There is only one. He was slain in a fight with a Balrog in the first era and then came back from the halls of Mandos because Manwë deemed his business in Middle-Earth wasn't finished yet.
And if you get taken to court?
Just because WB says it's illegal doesn't make it illegal. Chances are pretty big that these were all scare tactics, but it isn't worth the risk.
Uploading to usenet or the Pirate bay (and any other torrentsite) isn't illegal in itself. It's the content being uploaded that makes such an action illegal.
I'm still wondering how WB could ever prove the link between MERP and a seemingly random file being posted on usenet or a torrentsite.
Anyway, I will be supporting the MERP team, whatever they do. I don't think they will win this one, as WB just can't back off now. But I'm very interested in what the team can do outside of the Tolkien IP. Westeros would be a nice setting too, for example :) (although I haven't actually read A song of Ice and Fire...)
That has been that way for many a decade now. Fascist is not the right word though...
But if someone unrelated to the devs would upload a file of a few GB's somewhere, how would WB be able to prove that the MERP team has developed the mod the file contains? It's not like the name MiddleEathsBane is related to you in any way, apart from it being a nickname. So credits wouldn't be a problem I guess. I understand you wouldn't want to put your *** on the line for this mod, but it's pretty obvious that there's not a whole lot WB can do if MERP is passed through some back door.
Yeah, I figured as much. They probably won't like it, but it will at least show the scale of the crowd backing the team to them in a direct way. If only there was a Bywater post office we could snow under :)
I don't think Bethesda is getting into this one. Way too hot for them or any games company. WB is ofcourse a big player with lots of money (and thus power). If this is not going to work MERP will either have to move underground to continue development or just stop altogether (which is understandably the most likely thing to happen). So this really is an all or nothing situation.
I'm sure going to send some letters, both digitally and on paper. I hope this will set something in motion.
I have to ask though, is sending a bomb letter considered as being 'in good taste'? :P
WB has already announced to them that the C&D will remain even if they lose (if I interpreted their words the right way). So I really think that it's now or never for MERP...
That is true, forgive my rashness. I judged the game (or the concept for the game) with todays EA in mind. I forgot they were not so evil once :) That being said, the replacement, lotr: conquest, was beyond horrific. So I guess we can pinpoint their turning point towards being money grubbing ********.
Yes we heard about that (or at least it has come up in this section before), but since it was going to be published by EA, it would probably have been ****** anyway...
Bilbo wasn't inside a barrel during their flight down the river Running, though I do agree that elves hunting them down is a logical thing to happen and also a good choice concerning the film. And which other hobbit escaped from the halls of Thranduil then? Or was it Gollum you were aiming for?
I give them credit for giving bucket loads of "credit" to PJ to make his new trilogy :P
What is different from the book then? The only thing I could point out is that the barrels containing the dwarves are open, instead of closed. I think that is a logical decision, as the screenplay would be horrifically boring if they'd have to span the gap between their escape from Thranduil's caves and their arrival at Esgaroth with Bilbo climbing around the barrels themselves at first and on the barrelraft later on...
The only thing WB can do is hire the right man for the right job. Peter Jackson is the only real reason why lotr and There and Back Again I weren't colossal **** ups. For he understands what Tolkien's work means to the fans.