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Is it true that the Croats were descendants of goths ?
I read in book about Waffen SS,
thanks to croat have germanic roots its has been recruited to Waffen SS as volunteers and it was not that cruel war in Croatia as in Serbia.
Jedno su njige,a drugo je zivot.Zapamti,istoriju pisu pobednici
Historija moze svak pisat, a ne samo pobjednici...
Druze,moze je svako pisati,ali pitanje je da li ce se to sacuvati.Kao kad je hitler dosao na vrast,na hiljade knjiga je spaljeno,samo zbog toga sto mu se nije svidjala Nemacka istorija
Croats are not descendents of goths, sorry. Everyone was recruited in the SS even in Bosnia...
ne razumijem zašto se upuštaš u ovakve bespotrebne rasprave.
tvoj komentar je ogledalo tvoje inteligencije. strašno.
Ali ja nisam slav. Ko voli "Slavia"? Prava glupa stvar, slavi su krmetinja.
Hmmm, do I understand correctly? You wrote that you're not a Slav. I thought that people in Bosnia and Hercegovina are Slavs, either cristians or moslims. Please, explain. Because, if we now start dividing ourselves based on faith that would be the ultimate triumph of the Western Propaganda. To me, we are Slavs in the first place, then come other believes and parties. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The people in Bosnia are not slavs. Only a minority are for example the serbians that moved in to Bosnia. Religion does not have anything to do with slavic origins by the way. I am not saying this just because I am bosniak, I am saying this to prove you wrong and to tell the truth.
I am sure that you have read certain texts where it says that "Illirya was settled by slavs." This sentence says that Illyria was empty and that no one lived here and all the inhabitants now are slavic... But the slavic people did actually came to Illyria BUT there were people in Bosnia before them, the country wasn't empty youknow. The slavs that came to Bosnia did actually stay there and started to have families and all that but that DOES NOT prove that Bosnians are 100% slavs like you say.
If you still think Bosnia is 100% slavic, then who built the 20 000 year old pyramids that are located in the middle of Bosnia near Sarajevo? The slavs? I don't think so. There were people in the area where Bosnia is now and I believe that I am connected to their bloodline and not slavic. These people that lived and built the pyramids were an ancient people and I truly believe that I am not a slav and that my ancesters were these people and NOT slavs. If you think I am lying about the biggest pyramids in the world, then click here:
I am not attacking your opinions I am just telling the truth here, that Bosnia isn't 100% slavic, only a minority are for example serbians that live in Bosnia.
Mennano, I don't belong to any religion, but I still read the Bible and parts of Koran. None of these books suggests that people are walking this Earth for longer than 7000 years. I don't put my faith into the Science too much because they were wrong many, many times. I tend to believe that there is a supreme being up there and that in those books is a message to us.
Well, anyway, even if I'm completely wrong on this and the scientists are the "master minds" that we should follow and strictly believe what they say [or think?], still do not be so quick denauncing your origins. You don't even know who those people were or what language they spoke. You're speaking a Slavic language right now, why would you throw all of yourpresent identity to trash.
Consider this, The West doesn't like the idea of us getting alone and being united. We would pose a threat to them just like USSR did. They put many of false stories out there to make us feel DIFFERENT and SPECIAL. Don't fall into their trap, brother!
Why I am speaking a "slavic" language is perhaps because Bosnia and many other countries in Yugoslavia were forced to learn it... I don't care what the west say, I hate them for personal reasons but I do not like Russia because of that. I don't care about the fight between really stupid USA and hardcore Russia. I just don't. And besides, don't call me brother because we're not.
It's useless to argue with brainwashed/ignorant people...
Mennano, if I was brainwashed, I would be angry and hatefull just like you're. Those are the signs of brainwashing. You're angry with those that have different opinion from yours. That very anger and hatered prevents you from thinking clearly.
In CSSR, we also had to learn Russian - we had to learn their alphabet and 60% difference between our languages. Guess what, it was for FREE. Of course everyone was complaining about it, but it takes a real Fool to hate them for this. A smart person finds a way to use this for something good. I actually came to appreciate it. I have now friends from Ukraine, Turkmenistan, Bielarus, Armenia, Gruzia, ... We talk and enjoy our foods.
I'm very well aware what was going on in USSR and know that the amount of good equaled the amount of bad that was going on. However I choose to concentrate on the good only and rather forget/forgive the bad.
You seem to concentrate on the bad only. That will never help you - it will make your life miserable. Try to find good in people and help them change for better. Both Koran and Bible speak about forgivness. I don't hate - I disagree, I try to avoid and I warn others.
I support the unification of Slavs for moral reasons - no homosexuality and no society based on profits where people make living by decieving, lying and ripping off others. Do I still sound brainwashed to you?
Like I stated before, I'm not a member of any religious group nor member of any political party. Those are good places to get brainwashed alongside with pro-western media. Mennano, on top of this, I could never get ****** off at someone for calling me his "brother".
May peace be with you!
I mean this link: Piramidasunca.ba
Mennano, yes the hill is a shape of a piramid. If you live close by, take a trip up there with your friends and investigate on your own. Don't just believe everything that's written/shown in the MEDIA. Remember, the Media is a tool for the Governments to make us think what they want us to think. Our Goverments are Pro-Western and they have to follow Western Criteria now. Western Goal is to divide Slavs forever.
Notice, that our Slavic Media is now trashing any Non-Pro-Western Slavic nation and will not give them credit for anything.
Exaple: Russia, banned any propagation of homosexuality in the Russian Federation. Slava Putinovi! Did your Media write about it? Do you think Slovak or Czech Media wrote about this? GREAT RUSSIA is currently the only Slavic nation that trully represents the Slavic Heritage. We were never homosexuals and we don't want to be! That's the Russian message.
I'm asking you, try to rediscover your Slavic Heritage. You may not be proud of what is going on in your region right now, just like I'm not, but Slavia is lot bigger.
I have actually visited the pyramids personally, so I don't believe everything the media is talking about.
Anyway, goodbye. Have a nice life.
Bosnia is part of Croatia (NDH) in WW2.
Bosnians is recruited for killing jews on Balkan.
Bosnia never were nor it will ever be a part of Croatia.
Bosnians is Muslim-Serbians
Please read this stupid, this was written by experts and not by nationalistic serbians...
Contrary to frequent Serb and Croat nationalist claims, Bosnia and Herzegovina constitutes a historical entity which has its own identity and its own history. These two neighbors have, indeed, occupied minor parts of its territory, but only for brief periods of time and, as such, neither Serbia nor Croatia has any serious historical claims to Bosnia. Moreover, although Bosnia did interact with its Serb and Croat neighbors over the centuries, it had a very different history and culture from them. John Kinnamos, a late 12th-century Byzantine historian, reports that Bosnia was not subordinated; rather the Bosnians had their own distinct way of life and government. According to American professor John V.A. Fine, prominent authority in the field, the Bosnians (Bošnjani) have been a distinct people since at least the 10th century.
That text clearly says that we are not serbs, croats or "serbian muslims". We are one people and it shall be like that for ever until doomsday.
That is not true, please read history of bosnians. Then why do you serbians hate us so much if we are "serbians"? You serbs and your nationalism...
Mi vas ne mrzimo,niti imamo nesto protiv vas
Uvijek ste imali nesto protiv nas.
Jesil dobro care, posjeti doktora.
Druze,s' obzirom da si Bosnjak,nikad neces reci da si Srbin,ali Bosanci jesu poturceni Srbi,odnosno Srbi koji su primili islam.Evo na primer srednjevekovna Bosna,to je bila Srpska drzava,po tome govore podaci da je Tvrtko I sebe smatrao Srbinom,i da je krunisan u Milesevi,tj kao i svi Nemanjici i nosio je titulu Stefan koju su nosili svi vladari Nemanjica
Ti si pravo glup... Jesi li ikad otvorio knjigu?
I knije i govore istoricara,i svi se slazu u jednom,bosanci su poturceni Srbi
I koju knijigu si ti procito? "Srbi su najbolji na svijetu i svi su srbi". Jel' tako knijiga se zove? Mi nosmo i nekad necemo biti srbi...
Pravo da ti kazem,izbegavam takve knjige,niti me one zanimaju a mislim da ne zanimaju ni tebe.Briga me kakvi smo pre bili.Zasto ne pogledamo kakvi smo sada?
In WW2 yes,
In WW2 no. Croatia and Bosnia were republics in former Yugoslavia against the germans. That is how and why Jugoslavia and Partisans were created to fight the Nazis.
Ako ja nikad nisam otvorio knjigu,ti nikad nisi otvorio oci.Hrvati su se borili zajedno sa nemcima.Onda otkud NDH i ustase ??
Slusaj,dosta mi je svadje,niti ja imam nesto protiv tebe,niti ti imas nesto protiv mene,obadvojica imamo malu,jadnu i cemernu drzavu koja ide u nazad i gre su samo politicarima puni dzepovi.Onda cemu ova rasprava,da li da bismo samo dokazali da je nasa drzava bolja(veruj mi u istom smo sosu po pitanju drzava) ili da li smo mi bolji(u zivotu ne postoje bolji i gori ljudi po pitanju nacionalizma)
Nemam ja nista protiv tebe ali ja mirzim kad srbi (ko ti) kazu da bosanci/bosnjaci su srbi. Otkud vam to?? Hamal ste poludili...
E slusaj,neznam ko je gluplji ovde.Dal' ti koji si zapalio vatru,ili ja koji je rasplamsavam.
A samo mi na ovo odgovori i to je to.Sta ste vi??Iliri,Kelti,Tracani,Dacani,Huni,Avari ili Sloveni ili ste oduvek bili Bosanci??
Mi nismo Iliri, Kelti, Tracani, Dacani Huni, Avari ili Sloveni i nismo oduvjek bili bosanci. Kada Kraljevina Bosna bila mi se zvali "Bosnjani". To se poslje promjenilo da se zovemo bosanci (Svi u bosni i hercegovinu). Ali sada mi se zovemo Bosnjaci i Bosna je bila i uvjek ce biti NASA drzava.
A sta ste onda ?
Pa pise tu! Mi smo bosnjaci. I ti si srb.
And whats is NDH ?
I couldn't just watch this conversation, so I had to interfere. A story where the Croatian ancestors were Goths, I think that it isn't true. It was a part of German propaganda, because the Croatian soldiers were serving the Nazi Army (famous 369th Croatian Reinforced Infantry Regiment who fought in Stalingrad). The Nazi believed that Slavs are inferior race. Croats are Slavs, so they justified it with correcting the history and made the Goths their real ancestors. So, that was just a propaganda.
NDH is an abbreviation to Nezavisna Drzava Hrvatska, or Independent Croatian State, a German puppet state. It consisted of todays Croatian, Bosnian and parts of Slovenian, Serbian and Montenegrin territory. Although there were small partisan groups in Croatia, most of them were in Nazi movement. Bosnians had also an SS group, as well as Albanians and Croatians. In Serbia and Slovenia, there were Volunteer Corpses, while the Montenegro was under Italian protectorate.
During WW2 partisan movement from Republic of Užice (a small, partisan territory in Serbia) had to move, under German attack, to Bosnia, where they organized the movement and got the support from local Bosnian population- that's how the movement grew up. By the end of war, all Balkan nations were in partisan communist movement, and later, part of Yugoslav Army (yes, there were remnants of Ustashe, Chetniks, Ljotic's soldiers...).
Ok,it was written in book and i only want if is it true.
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