(NOTE: This is not a group for the bashing, belittling, or debunking of other people's beliefs).
Peace be with you.
After a discussion between MattmanDude, CrazyOldTeenager, and myself, a short (but to the point) series of rules will now be coming into effect for this...
Basileus Basileon Basileuon Basileuonton. Translated as "king of kings, ruling over rulers"
Just a message from an old wanderer passing through.
Lot of information for new recruits packed into a mere article. Also has three medal of honor soundtracks to listen too while reading if you want. Enjoy.
Your new order of business now that you are a member of the Grand Army of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Shalom my brethren. I thought y'all should have a look at this. Its a book called "Vain Traditions" and I really think you ought to read it. Its free so anyone can get their hands on it if they want. For those who think I'm insane (and I know some of you do) I especially recommend this book to you. Enjoy and peace be with you.
Just a few tips for everyone:
1) No matter how wrong your opponent may be, calling him a liar will not prove your point. It will only make you look intolerant.
2) Keep debates in their appropriate sections. I like KnightofEcclesia's idea about having a debating section for our forum.
3) Try not to make your opponent look dumb. When people put on a tough, skeptical front, it often means that they're just looking for answers, but they don't want to appear humble or weak. Please, fellow believers, make it easy for them to search for truth. Sometimes, in our wonderful efforts to teach others about God, we can forget that God is someone we have to find for ourselves. Trying to cram it down an atheist's throat will only increase their anger towards Christianity. As they say in Texas, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."
We can point atheists towards God by telling them of our own experiences and personal miracles, but we can't try to enforce our beliefs on them. If they are completely set against God, than as sad as it may be, you have little choice but to leave them alone. Take heart though, spreading God's word doesn't necessarily mean converting them on the spot. Sometimes, all you have to do is get them interested. They can then search for God themselves, and we don't have to act like intolerant Pharisees. We as Christians should readily point atheists towards the path of salvation, but we must never attempt to push them along.
Normally when someone is called a liar, it means they are. It's not an insult.
So what if we "look intolerant"? Was Jesus "tolerant" of the temple being used as a market? Was Jesus "tolerant" of paganism? No. We are not here to be "tolerant" and walk on egg shells around non-believers.
There is a difference between being intolerant of something that is unjust, and being intolerant of somebody's opinion. I should have made that a little more clear in my last post, because there is nothing wrong with being intolerant of something that is truly evil. However, we must never be intolerant of other people's opinions, no matter how mistaken they might be. Instead, we should exercise logic and humility when speaking with atheists.
The Bible tells us to be all things to all men, and while I believe that we should be tolerant to some extent, there are some things we can simply never agree with atheists about. Tolerance is not agreeing with your opponent's opinion, it's being able to "agree to disagree".
Ok I see what you meant.
I think Seeme has raised a good point. How bout creating a debate section in the forums section? It would certainly make everything more neater. That way, whenever someone (Christians or not) proposes something, there will be a forum to debate it within. The comment section can become a confusing mess sometimes...
Seeme and KnightofEcclesia, this forum is a place for debates, not flame wars. No matter how correct your point may be, please don't present it an over-emotional way. We as Christians are supposed to use wisdom and humility in our conversations, not act like drama queens. Atheists, many you are fed up with over-emotional fundamentalists, so you shouldn't have any problem accepting that. If you have a question or answer to post on this forum, please don't try to insult your intellectual opponent.
Where's the flame war? Seeme made a claim which was constructive (although misinformed) and I responded in a constructive way. Seeme hasn't insulted me and I haven't insulted him (and if I have, I didn't mean it).
But he seemed okay with my comment, so why the big announcement? So long as he remains constructive and I too, then there's no problem. I just wish he would ask us about Christianity and get to know us before coming to unfounded conclusions about us calling for the death of all atheists.
LOL, I know some of my debates in the images sections with atheists have become heated and some insults have been passed from both parties but I don't remember anyone on either side calling for the other party's death.
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