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Headhunter128
Headhunter128

I wonder if I can skip doing exercise with the excuse that it would cause me to breathe to hard I may catch on fire.. :P

On a more serious note. How the hell do you reach the conclusion that inefficiency respiratory function can cause you to catch on fire? >.< Makes no sense.. Lol

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Beskamir
Beskamir

(buried)

Any of you want to hear my opinion? If not just say so and I'll shut up.
So the burning theory is not extremely false. If you try to pull in a large amount of air through, a very small space the friction COULD cause some problems. However I don't think it's true, since I haven't seen it, I could try pushing/pulling several tons of air through a small hole which would not be completely smooth. (if anyone wishes to try something like that then be my guest)
However atmospheric pressure was higher before the flood, which means that creatures could have had the conditions of growing larger.

Not once have I said its 100% fact that any of what I said happened, I'm just pointing out that there is more then just one version of what we believe happened. Also it is worth exploring all the possibilities before announcing something is wrong. Anyways like I said if you want me to shut up then just tell me, but if you want to debate me then please do so over pm, or on my page so that those that don't want to see my coments here don't have to see them.

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Velancious Creator
Velancious

-_-

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CommanderDef
CommanderDef

I wonder how can flood cause decrease of atmospheric pressure.

If you think about lot of gas going trough small hole, look on spray. According to laws of thermodynamics, the temperature of expanding gas is changed - but you would be surprised, it's colder. Which may look like steam from distance and also support the idea of frost dragons xD

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DDguy
DDguy

Frost Dragons? Damnit, and here I was thinking the Dragons breathed only fire ._.

lol

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CommanderDef
CommanderDef

Not at all, and the weirdest dragons are pepper-dragons. Their breath is not hot, but contains some capsaicin. That is a chemical that makes hot pepper hot (in terms of taste). If you encouter that kind of dragon, you will be in pain which is (ironically) coming just from your brain while body itself is unharmed. It is not known what the dragon do with the body, but we guess it is nothing nice. Luckily, these dragons are rare, near extinction just like unicorns. xD

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Velancious Creator
Velancious

SKYRIM WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG! FROST DRAGONS DO EXIST

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Beskamir
Beskamir

My understanding of increased air pressure is based on the canopy theory which cannot be proven

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Admiral-165 Creator
Admiral-165

the atmosphere is also 78% Nitrogen which would put out any fire which was created by the Oxygen. Even then the Dinosaurs would have to breathing incredibly heavy to start any fire, they would most likely die of their muscles failing than their nostrils flaming.

Also Dragons can fly? A Triceratops can't D: and before you say it was a flying dinosaur, Chinese Dragons could fly without wings because they were magic :D It is fairly obvious that this is all made up, no matter how you try and 'prove' this with science it doesn't work...

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Velancious Creator
Velancious

A lack of oxygen would also mean it's harder to start a fire so...a low oxygen environment wouldn't change ****.

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Beskamir
Beskamir

I never said it was fact though. I just said here's another theory and I see you guys are right, starting a fire by extreme breathing is highly unlikely. Thanks for not going, "you don't know a thing about science." and instead thankyou for explaining it kindly. Much appricated. The flying part of dragons seems made up, however it could be that the wings were never preserved in the fossil record.

By the way breathing fire is chemically possible.

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Admiral-165 Creator
Admiral-165

The more logical answer would be that Dragons never existed, not that they disappeared in the fossil record. There are fossils far older than Dragon fossils would be, which still have distinct wings. Not to mention Dragons would be larger (by mythological definition)

Yes fire-breathing is possible... in carnivals.

My personal reccomendation? This guy is seriously deluded so don't bother to defend him. Just drop it altogether...

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Beskamir
Beskamir

I never said that any of what I mentioned happened. I just said that it's a possiblity of dragons loosing their wings. I mean surly people would have had uses for them. Also durring the flood,(when most stuff died, and became fossils) dragons would have been able to fly to places just high enough that they would decay instead of fossilize. (just a guess, it's probably wrong, so please be patient and explain it instead of getting emotional) I'm not trying to defend that guy, I don't agree with a bunch of the stuff he said myself. Also have you heard of the En.m.wikipedia.org ? Here is a creature that can "burn" his attackers. So why couldn't a slightly more complex and on a larger scale system exist?

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CommanderDef
CommanderDef

Insect... is weird...
But this in larger scale would be extremely dangerous for animal carrying it. Also animal with size of dinosaur would hardly need it.

Flight altitude level has nothing to do with decay/fossilize xD It depends on animal's death. And as I said before, dinosaur fossils are millions of years old. I remember putting a link to Radiometric dating that time. En.wikipedia.org

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Beskamir
Beskamir

Speaking of radio metric dating:
Creation.com
I think you should read the information that's in that link, its about 1:40am right now so I didn't have the time or will to read all of it, but I did read about 70-90% of it.
But if dragons have nothing to do with a ancient creature then how did people come up with it, and I'd get the point that it's made up if it was in one culture, but nearly every culture has dragon stories in them, I mean how and why are the stories so accurate. It just doesnt make sense....
Lastly if a creature could fly then I'm quite sure it would try to live as long as possible before drowning, which would mean that it would get burried closer to the surface.
Oh and maybe we should move to pm? Some people get annoyed when they see the same person making nearly the same points.

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CommanderDef
CommanderDef

The guy who wrote it did simplify it (for purpose). It's not just "so let's say this one is 30 and this one is 200 years old." Also timing rocks is not the same as fossils. You know, sediments mostly consist of eroded volcanics that are far older than sediment itself. It is more complex to say how old sediment is. You can get age of it's parts and then make a model of circumstances in time. And again, in that article there is only criticism of scientific methods, but not the author's theory. As I said, everything you have is just trying to find an error in evolution and press a god there. But nothing solid, no whole theory supported by facts and numbers (times).

Speaking about sediments, you know that certain kinds of limestone are from shelters of prehistoric forms of snails and clams? They have a structure and sometimes you can see a big part of shelter. Again, much older than you would say.

Some time ago you wrote that god made many things in your life and even saved you. Well, can I get a PM with details?

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Sarge_Rho
Sarge_Rho

I would say fire-breathing is possible. But no tetrapod on Earth seems to have evolved the required features to do so.

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Cervi_Messias Creator
Cervi_Messias

by the way, on the subject of dragons. people have been finding fossils for thousands of years and tryed to expain what they were.

that were dragons cam from, found a bone didnt know what it was call it dragon. its that simple.

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