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-IllusiveMan-
-IllusiveMan- Jan 6 2012, 4:05am says:

I have seen lots of mainstream media about what will happen in 2012. Lots of young people (i have no idea why they have so big %) beleave at worlds end for some reason. But what you think will happen?

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!!!karmenjell
!!!karmenjell Jan 19 2012, 6:46pm replied:

i think (according to the mayans) the sun is gonna burn out?!
im still gonna make plans for 2013

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SоrataZ
SоrataZ Jan 20 2012, 10:35am replied:

The good old Sun will not burn out for another 5 to 6 billion years so do not worry about that.

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-IllusiveMan-
-IllusiveMan- Jan 20 2012, 2:23pm replied:

lol true that. Anyways, i have been watching an series on History channel called Anicent Aliens. It is uploaded in youtube aswell (43min per episode), and it gives so many proof about angels and god's actually being aliens that came here long time ago, and they were made to ''gods'' cause ancient people could not explain their supernatural powers. And angels were messengers (if u translate every culture words of angel it say that too), and wings symbolise flying capability, like maybe an space craft. Anyways, kinda interresting documentary if anyone is interrested in that stuff, i was not but am now lol

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Velancious
Velancious Jan 20 2012, 8:14pm replied:

I remember Assassin's Creed had their story entirely based around that concept. It's a pretty interesting theory, but I doubt it all happened anyway.

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SоrataZ
SоrataZ Jan 6 2012, 5:00am replied:

Nothing, unless Yellow Stone or another Super Volcano unexpectedly explodes, since it's late by a few thousand years. Otherwise yeah, nothing. The internet might get killed if the US government pulls SOPA through but when that happens the USA will have been declared war by nearly everyone else. Anyway, the whole Maya calendar business you most likely are refering to is nonsense. The people making it simply ran out of stone and thought "Eh, **** this, we have made enough calendar material in advance."

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-IllusiveMan-
-IllusiveMan- Jan 6 2012, 12:40pm replied:

Uea i totally agree with you. Right now the big news around here are the German supervolcano that is under the lake, and there is signs of activity ( gas coming from lake and its warming up slowly). It is supposed to blow in every 10,000-12,000 years, and it has been 12,900 uears since last eruption. So lots of ppl that will erupt in late this year lol.

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LOTRuler
LOTRuler Jan 7 2012, 5:55pm replied:

Don't hope it's gonna explode and if it is gonna happen please wait 200 years cuz then I defenitly won't life anymore! and about the maya callendar is **** because i red in a science magazine that scienties who were re calculatting the callendar found out they where 6 years to early or something so it 'should' happen in 2018 lol

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-IllusiveMan-
-IllusiveMan- Jan 9 2012, 1:23pm replied:

lol yew, prolly nothing is going to happen, but the beleavers and people who follow god and stuff will sure do something, like sell their stuff and things, like many did year ago when some religious guy told world end will come, again, after the doomsday fail in 90's :D

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LOTRuler
LOTRuler Jan 2 2012, 11:10am says:

Hi guys came across this group I'm an atheist too, as a small child I got some christian education like baptize(?) and such, but when I grow older is just seems stupid because I've never got any signs of Unnatural things and what all scientist prove is just more logical.

I was reading the discussion below here about what is good and what is evil, at school we had a kind of similiar discussion about what is ugly and what is beauty and after some talking the teacher said, "ugliness is caused by beauty" so it's similar to what zombinevelancious said. so I agree with him because of the things we think is good the opposite almost everytime seems bad.

I hope you guys understand because english is not my first language.

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SоrataZ
SоrataZ Jan 3 2012, 5:06am replied:

Your English is completely fine.

Anyway, what is beautiful and what is ugly is not absolute. In ancient Roman and Greek times, volume (i.e. fatness) was considered a good thing, and that came back during times of the rennaissance. It switched places with what we would call lolita (very young and petite looking) being the absolute ideal.

In fact, the main perception of curvyness being sexy and the ideal abnout it came only after World War 2, lasted most of the last 60 years and is only slowly getting replaced in society by cuteness (due to influence from Asia, mainly Japan) being the ideal again (of course accusations of pedophilia are abound should someone even just mention that fact).

In short, ugly and beautiful are only support words with no absolute merit to themselves.

Analogous, good and evil are not absolute values. If a police officer kills a (wo)man who commited a serious crime, it's still that said officer killed a person, which would be evil. But in the context it was necesarry to prevent further crime and the survivors might even hail said officer as a hero to free them from the danger. It's like doing something wrong to do something right, which in itself is also only a blurred line.

As rule of thumb, do everything you want but never bother or hurt others doing so, as much as possible. Holding that maxime high should help a great deal in making a better society.

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LOTRuler
LOTRuler Jan 3 2012, 5:03pm replied:

I totally agree with you, now your part of the police officer, I was just seeing a program 5 minutes ago about a man who calles himself a 'pedophile-hunter' and honestly admit on television that he will kill every pedophile he is 100% sure of it is an pedophile.

If you start thinking about that killing people is wrong but if you imagine what those sick minds do with little kids and the consequences of the kids his life and mind and such. I personally think the only thing they (pedophiles) deserve is in prison for the rest of his/her life or just deathpenalty. what is your opinion of this?

Also a great sentence by the way gonna keep that in mind:

"As rule of thumb, do everything you want but never bother or hurt others doing so, as much as possible. Holding that maxime high should help a great deal in making a better society." - SorataZ

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SоrataZ
SоrataZ Jan 3 2012, 7:21pm replied:

Death penalty is nonsense because once it has been applied it's over. There is no hell for sinners, not in my understanding anyway. A life-time prison sentence as it currently is however is a waste of money because a living person requires upkeep (as we are bound by the basic human rights, even in the case of a child rapist/murderer). An improvement to a life-long prison sentences (which I'm pro to, but not death penalty, see murder) would be to go hand in hand with productive work. Yes, hard labour. Jobs that are too dangerous for other people but a sufficient amount of hardship/punishment for those who violated the aforementioned human rights of others. This, along with continous, strong therapy. What I find wrong is that reports about prison inmates often enough show them to have their own TV sets and other stuff in their cells, payed by taxes. Things like that have to go. Inmates have to earn that stuff by showing cooperation and good behaviour, which would double work because they can see that being good can have advantages.

As a note: someone who adores children because they are cute is not the same as someone who would violently rape them, we have to keep that in mind. I point this out because this is why the term pedophile is often thrown around the room but no one actually knows the meaning. Finding children cute is normal, the other is a mental illness. Any illness can be cured by applying enough of the correct medicine.

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!!!karmenjell
!!!karmenjell Jan 19 2012, 6:51pm replied:

i know some medicine for pedophiles

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-IllusiveMan-
-IllusiveMan- Jan 4 2012, 3:19am replied:

There should be death penalty to any crimes as rape or killing or so on. Because just few weeks ago, one person who was in jail for killning 2 persons for 7 years, got released. And guess what was first thing he did in release day, killed some good person again. Now he will be in jail for another 7 years and when comes out, prolly kill more. And it just goes that way with almost all people who has been in jail. And teraphy of treating pedophilia will often not bring results, so it should be life sentence for big crime or death. Or make an island where u send all the threat of society.

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SоrataZ
SоrataZ Jan 4 2012, 6:36am replied:

An island of prisoners in the middle of the ocean *might* work if it's stripped bare of any possibilities to make escape possible. However I am fairly sure there is a law that prohibits prisoner islands otherwise they would probably be in service. Think Guantanamo Bay, it's in service because it's outside the official juristriction of the USA.

I'll also stress it again, death penalty is murder. Even those who violated human rights still have human rights, because while this might sound retarded at first then think about if this wasn't the case. Exactly, accusations would run about and everyone who for some reason doesn't fit the state gets the death penalty. We'd end up in the middle ages, ruled by overzealous retards claiming they rule because "God told them" or some other superstitious nonsense. Violating human rights doesn't strip one of them, otherwise those doing the striping wouldn't be any better.

Besides, you gave an example to counter the point of therapy. Tell me, just how many inmates do you know off that had therapy and successfully overcame their urges? How many of those did the media cover? Exactly, none, because no one mentions them. Having one example where it doesn't work doesn't invalidate the system, solely due to lack of reportage. Otherwise our news would be full of trains having arrived in time safely, airplanes which didn't fall out of the sky and prison inmates who never commited a crime again for life.

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-IllusiveMan-
-IllusiveMan- Jan 5 2012, 10:17am replied:

well, if not death sentence, then it should be life for life, kill someone and you will be in prison until ur own death. That should be most reasonable, because when person kills then it prolly wont change in the future.

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