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Cervi_Messias
Cervi_Messias Oct 12 2011, 5:54pm says:

psycoticloner is threating to start harrassing you guys again, he has been trolling my page for not apparent reason. he is driving me crazy he just needs to be banded cuz all he seems to do is troll and cause trouble.
O and ZombineVelancious we are not all of us christians are like your father, if we were then there wouldn't be any science or non-theocratic governments. I am sorry but with people like your father reason will never work for the extremists of the world believe reason to be there biggest enemy. and no matter how much evidence you throw at them they will close there eyes and cover thier ears and yell really loadly Blasphemy!!!I have an will always keep and open mind. there is a saying ignorance is death, and I personally plan to live as long a possible.

cheers :-)
Deer_hunter

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Velancious
Velancious Oct 13 2011, 5:37pm replied:

Yeah, I agree. I am glad there are Christians out there that listen to reason and use Christianity as a guide to living their lives. I just wish everybody could get along!

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Drag0
Drag0 Oct 9 2011, 3:38pm says:

,,Religion is like a *****: its good to have one, its fine to be proud of it, but please... DONT be shoving it in other peoples throats.''

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Velancious
Velancious Oct 10 2011, 12:02am replied:

Your right; but part of religion I see is arrogance to accept or allow any other belief to co-exist among your own. You don't see Atheists murdering Christians; but you see Christians and Muslims having their little war with each other. It doesn't change the fact if it's two countries seemingly at war; it's a religious war. The U.S. would be willing to put itself at war with any Muslim-occupied nation because we have a lot of Christian politics pulling the strings in our government.

If it were up to me, we'd have an equal number of Atheist/Agnostic politicians so we can avoid these religious wars... Honestly though, considering all the crap the U.S. goes through just to get us to go to war (oil, terrorists, etc) with an Islamic nation, I think we'd be into a war anyway. There's too much lying and ******** going on in the world of politics to make any accurate judgement...

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feillyne
feillyne Oct 6 2011, 1:05am replied:

Hmm, you got an oversimplified version of these beliefs.

ZombineVelancious wrote:I talked about a ghost story I heard some time back I thought was funny and she said instantly "THERE'S NO GHOSTS...THEIR DEMONS!" I asked her "Well, how do you know?" and she goes off saying how she knows because of logic.

According to knowledgeable spiritualists, exorcists, and others, those beings that are thought to be "ghosts", i.e. ghosts of the dead, are simply spirits from other worlds with or without bodies on these other worlds/planets/dimensions.

Ghosts of the dead simply don't exist (they almost immediately move on to another incarnations).

So it's said that only demons/spirits identifying themselves as "the dead" exist. It's said that in the spiritual world that you can enter via OOBEs (out-of-body-experiences) or even lucid dreams and astral projections, or after clinical deaths, people/beings can LIE and DECEIVE and MISGUIDE you just like they can in the real world. Or they can help you or do a favour for you, for free or in exchange for something.

ZombineVelancious wrote:Basically, our Dad is installing all his beliefs into us (which include saying the outside world is the 'Devil' and will try to trick you any way it can by distorting his 'facts').

"The outside world is the 'Devil'"?

What do you mean? Ignorance, a lack of reason, pornography, murders, robberies, wars (yes yes there are CONFLICTS and wars outside your US! Maybe you'll open your eyes?), gangs and other paramilitary groups...

... extreme poverty, and MANY, MANY other negative things that would need positive attention and positivity of people from RICH countries like yours.

Yes, the world is like a devil, consumed by egoistic materialism and evil desires. When will we switch to altruistic support of ALL communities and cultures in the world and stop destroying each other, hmmm? The world is devillish because we made it so.

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Velancious
Velancious Oct 6 2011, 3:17am replied:

I agree with everything you say (that's honestly how I meant it), but when my Dad would say the outside world is the 'Devil'; he means outside influences like OTHER religions/science/logic. He throws all of that out of the house and replaces it with his version he gets from the Bible. He literally believes the Bible is the exact teachings of God through Jesus (can't blame him, but he goes very far in his belief).

Despite all of this, I note that the smarter people tend to be Atheists/Agnostics and that is why I've taken my boat ride with them for a while. I've wanted to see the world from a different perspective (and surprisingly, liked it more than how the Bible explains life and how we must obey God, etc).

I haven't truly left Christianity, but I'm far from a 'Super-Christian'; which I hope I will never one day become. Until I see literal miracles with no possible explanation or proof done by a God (or possibly, spirits), my belief in the theist world is kind of diminished. I, however, believe in other things in the supernatural. Somehow I think our world is tied into several other dimensions where these 'cross' over (or we possibly see into other dimensions; like a dead dimension where everyone is a 'spirit').

Even if resorting to logic can diss-prove religion in some way, there is still the fact of the supernatural we still have trouble explaining (poltergeists, demons, spirits).

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feillyne
feillyne Oct 6 2011, 3:38am replied:

Yep. And one of the greatest problem of science (apart from funds for research) is paradigms, paradigms that creep into it like dogmas into religions.

We lack serious scientific research (done by entire groups of people instead of individuals) into cases of healings, spirits, and other "anomalies".

Hmmm, pushing beliefs is nasty, whether it's done on a personal (parents/friends/random people on street) level or social one (churches, institutions, etc.).

Something would have to be done. Have you tried to discuss the Bible with your father? Maybe you could talk him over, say that many writers and many different people wrote the Bible, and at different times? You could question him on historical/religious grounds (scrolls and sources of the current canon, translations, etc.).

You know, so as to try to see whether he'd be capable of being more open-minded within his own closed-mindedness.

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Velancious
Velancious Oct 7 2011, 12:40am replied:

That's true, I've been doing that. Earlier, we had a discussion about rainbows and how they are made. He first announced it to me that "science can't prove how rainbows work" (XD) so I defended science. I told him that maybe he isn't paying attention because science has already figured out how rainbows are a reflection of angles in water drops. I even showed him several bits of evidence pointing this subject out. He still stood in his pool of ignorance though by using the dinosaur disbelief ability, otherwise known as simply saying "Oh, that's a lie/trick put down to make people not believe in God by Satan and Atheists!"

You can imagine how it looks to someone who uses logic and reasoning to think about that for a moment. You start to see how ignorant and closed-minded they have allowed themselves to be. That is actually why I start to see the ignorance in Christian people. They blindly follow this book and expect everything in it to be right and everyone else to be wrong, even if evidence is supplied to combat their faith.

Now, back to the rainbow theory I had to argue with him over. He claims that since rainbows are in the sky and the Bible says God made them, they are real PHYSICAL objects that appear when it rains to tell the world he will not flood it again.

Of course, I know it's ******** and tell him then why can I see a rainbow at a CERTAIN ANGLE when I spray water from a hose... It's not rain; that's for sure!

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Akalonor
Akalonor Oct 7 2011, 9:05pm replied:

That's pretty damn funny, seems you have had rather bad experiences with christians, i am glad not all are like that.

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Velancious
Velancious Oct 8 2011, 2:37am replied:

If all were like that, there would be a lot more Atheists, wouldn't there be? Or maybe it would be the opposite where we are all rounded up and hunted down? Salem Witch Trials repeat? Atheists have been murdered in the past for speaking out against religion; and they still are to this day.

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