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Cervi_Messias Aug 24 2012, 1:47pm says:

Man think about it, if god is real he has the greatest racket of all time going. all he has to do is sit tere and watch us stumble around down here doing all the work and when some thing good happens he gets the creidit.
and if hes not real than we must look lik huge morons sitting around praisin something that aint there, no wonder we aint met no aliens.
If i were an alien i wouldnt come here, we must look retarded.

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CZelednikov Aug 23 2012, 6:22pm says:

OK guys. Read about this . I can admit with no problem that Stalin was an atheist, but why can't religious people admit that he wasn't? Do they really think that religion make you better person? In New Zealand for example only 35% of people are Christians, but Christians are 90% of people in prisons. Also was war criminal Bush good guy?

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KnightofEquulei Aug 24 2012, 7:03pm replied:

Ummm you've forgotten Pol Pot and Kim Jong Il. Oh and in Sweden (one of the top atheist countries in Europe) happens to be the "capital" of Europe for rape:

So that means most of those rapists are atheists.

See your flawed logic now Perun58?

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CZelednikov Aug 25 2012, 2:10pm replied:

Over Two million people in american Prisons...74% Christian...0.2 % Atheist.
Nazi Germany - 98% population were Christians
Most criminal country in Europe - Vatican
Most brutal organization with biggest numbers of kills in history = catholic church. Do you know this phrase?
"Kill them all. For the Lord knows them that are His."
You should.
By the way in highly religious Poland there is 10 times more murderers per person then in Czech Republic and much more then in Sweden. When you look at peace index you can see that your "evil" Sweden in one of the most peaceful countries in the world.
And forgive me that I haven't write more examples of Christian murderers and ******** like you did with atheists. Here we go:

Arnaud Amalric (creator of phase I wrote and leader of Crusaders)
Augusto Pinochet ( former fascist leader of Venezuela, there was a great genocide. )
Yakubu Gowon ( former dictator of Nigeria, millions of people were killed )
Tomás de Torquemada ( grand inquisitor infamous for widely known Spain inquisition )
Pope Innocent VIII ( most brutal pope of all time )
King Leopold II ( Dictator from Belgium )
Already mentioned Adolf Hitler and George Bush.

About my logic...

"Do they really think that religion make you better person? "

I never told that religion will make you worse. I said it won't make you better. I am only ****** how Christians can't admit that Hitler was not an atheist.

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TheTriangulum Aug 23 2012, 8:16pm replied:

The alleged violence of religion is simply our own violence done in religion’s name. Without religion, we simply find other banners under which to continue our deadly plans. The violence of religion is not the problem; the real problem is the seemingly primal violence embedded in our own hearts. It is that violence which is most resistant to uprooting
Stop blaming religion. Stop looking for other things to blame. For you only answer for yourself and yourself only.
The world is as worse as it always has been.
I am sick of these excuses I see people make on a daily basis

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CZelednikov Aug 25 2012, 2:11pm replied:

I never said that Hitler crimes was in the name of Chistianity so can you Christians stop repeating over and over again that Stalin was murderer because he was an atheist? If Stalin would be vegetarian then vegetarians are murderers?

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Cervi_Messias Aug 23 2012, 8:59pm replied:

but wait... if god created us than that means that he made us violent...

so if "god did it" than god is violent, so therefor religion is violent so there for
you guys walked right into that
thank you, thank you
so either we accept that god wants us to kill people...or we can blame the fact that we have insticts to fight because of evolution, and then we work to over come that and live together. Or...should we just follow the bible and kill each other brutally for fun because god wants us to?

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CrazyOldTeenager Aug 24 2012, 9:10am replied:

"so if "god did it" than god is violent, so therefor religion is violent so there for

Actually, it's just because humans have free will. We can choose to use it for selfish purposes, or we can use it to benefit mankind. Unfortunately, there have always been people who choose to abuse their free will, and they will often try to find a good excuse for their actions. Often, these people will use religion to justify their actions, in an attempt to get the blame off of them.

Basically, the reason that people kill each other is not because God wants them to, but because people will often abuse the power of free choice. Religion is usually what gets blamed for their actions, hence the overall suspicion of people affiliated with one.

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Cervi_Messias Aug 24 2012, 1:24pm replied:

i was joking using the typical evanjelical style arguement

and if you have ever ready the old testament god clearly wants to have lots and lots of people (whole peoples) killed for truely pathetic reasons.
p.s. itsnt this what you want? for us to say god did it.
i thought that was what this whole arguement was about...

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DDguy Aug 23 2012, 10:22am says:

Decided to write down a comment, to clarify something:

The way I see my life, is that I do things every man/woman would do: Go to work, eat, drink, sleep, eat some more, and sleep again.

In the end, after many years, I will in the end die. My body will stop working, and I will die. I don't look up for salvation or eternal life, for I know, not for certain, but certain enough, that when I die, it will be the end of the long road every human walks.

There will be no afterlife, no second chance. Life is a one-time chance and I don't need a god to live happily, for life isn't perfect, but it's what we have.

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