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RighteousFighter
RighteousFighter Dec 12 2012, 2:28am says:

I see everyone, who promote their views on faith and religion, as fools (and worse), no matter if you're a theist or an atheist.

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Readyus
Readyus Dec 12 2012, 7:19am replied:

So basically you cannot express your opinion without been labeled as a fool?

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Mr.Walrus
Mr.Walrus Dec 12 2012, 8:27am replied:

You can say the same thing the other way around, so basically if you don't preach antitheism you're a fool?

I greatly disagree with this image. There is no reason why people who want to keep "there is no God" (which is an idiotic presumption to begin with, we can't technically know that, however unlikely) to themselves are fools. I don't mind people spreading their opinions, I do so myself, but I certainly respect those who don't want to. Bad message.

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Velancious Creator
Velancious Dec 12 2012, 8:00pm replied:

I do agree that saying "There is no god" is an idiotic assumption as saying "There is a god". Past that, I still think religion needs to be fought until it surrenders the rights of people it has taken away (I am talking about atheists being denied office in many states because of state laws).

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Mr.Walrus
Mr.Walrus Dec 13 2012, 5:55pm replied:

I agree entirely. However the notion that somebody who doesn't go "GOD DUN EXIST BRO" to everyone they meet is a fool is just absurd.

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Cervi_Messias Author
Cervi_Messias Dec 12 2012, 8:16am replied:

that complete ********
& ethically wrong, religion is hurting billions right now- so to say it is foolish to work againist such evil is absurd extremely immature and foolish.
even from a naturalistic model (what helps us selfishly, we promote) still sides for bashing religion because religion is not supporting human growth and ptogress just hurting it.

and heres the other part- you have just promoted your views on religion
so in essensce you have just called yourself a fool.

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RighteousFighter
RighteousFighter Dec 12 2012, 9:59am replied:

Maybe I just put my words the wrong way.

There's nothing wrong with going to someone and say "Good day, I happen to be a part of X faith, would you be interested in joining us?"

However, saying them "Your faith is a bunch of ****, and you better change it to the same as mine, or you're a ******* moron." is not good at all. That is about forcing your views down to others throats. And this is what i think the image wants to promote. It says that only wise atheists go around shoveling their atheist views down to theist throats.

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TheTriangulum
TheTriangulum Dec 12 2012, 5:19pm says:

sry about the raging. Please delete my comments. I have not been feeling well mentally lately. So much stress boiling inside me and no where to take it out.

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Mr.Walrus
Mr.Walrus Dec 12 2012, 5:56pm replied:

Honestly I think they're good comments, I completely agree with what you said. Damned good points.

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RighteousFighter
RighteousFighter Dec 13 2012, 4:20am replied:

I got a bit confused with your comments, and who did they go to (me, or Deer Hunter?). And I blame Moddb's reply system for that.

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Cyborg_Putin
Cyborg_Putin Dec 13 2012, 10:33am replied:

I think they went to your reply to Deer_Hunter

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RighteousFighter
RighteousFighter Dec 13 2012, 12:14pm replied:

But LordMalgus talks of religious people doing kind deeds, while DeerHunter claimed that religious people hurt masses of innocents, so I think the replies go to him.

I could still be wrong.

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Cervi_Messias Author
Cervi_Messias Dec 14 2012, 12:36am replied:

They were directed at me- not u exalted4000

O and i do agree that forcing beliefs is wrong and in an ideal world your statement would be fine and good
but we dont live in idea world, religion is dangerous- it only works against progress and if we dont fight it- or it will subjegate us. believe me were i live i have personally seen atheist lose there jobs, get harassed and beat- basically run out of town because they dont have the right imaginary friend. religion doesnt know how to tolerate- the moment we let are guard down and say all right do what you want we will have a new inquistition. if you like you can roll over and be subjegated but i will not.
do you know in someplaces in the U.S. they have anti- atheist laws? you may live in a better country but i do not.
so please quite claiming that i am i fool for standing up for the rights of atheists.

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Cyborg_Putin
Cyborg_Putin Dec 14 2012, 9:07am replied:

That's a reason why I fake my belives, I don't what to know what some people would do to me if they find out I'm an atheist, lol.

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Cervi_Messias Author
Cervi_Messias Dec 14 2012, 12:18am says:

You wan to know the truth Malgus you are the problem here not me- i said we need to fight the injustice and evil of religion, i never said anything about the good.
I know religion does good- but religion isnt required to do good and if you think it is that you are a *******.

religion causes pain hurt and death- lots of it. justbecause it does some good doesnt make up for it wrong it has done is doing and will continue to do.
think of it this way aldolf hilter did some good for germany, he actually did alot of good early on. but whaty is hitler remembered for- helping germany or genocide and destruction?
religion has the exact same rap sheet. no matter what good its done it has cause at least double if not more the harm. anything religion has done good we can do better without it (execpt of decieve oppress and brutalize in the name of fantisy.

you are an arogant jackass. If you wish to follow a personal religion be my guest, i dont care. but i will not stand by and let religion harm people and get away with it because jerks like you stand in the way and yell and cry like pussy footed bastards because you think you should be able to oppress and hurt anyone you like in the name of your imaginary friend.

now i suggest you get your hateful religious *** back to the christain group were it belongs.

Good bye and good day
Deer_hunter

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TheTriangulum
TheTriangulum Dec 14 2012, 12:22pm replied:

To put it into summary, if you apply that confounded logic to other things imagine what your policies would be...

LETS BAN ALL KNIVES KNIVES ARE USED FOR KILLING PEOPLE!!!!

KILL ALL DRUGGISTS THEY SELL PRODUCTS THAT CAN HARM PEOPLE!!!!

BURN ALL FPS GAMES THEY CAUSE CHILDREN TO BECOME VIOLENT

BAN OVENS THEY CAUSE 3rd DEGREE BURNS!!!!

This leads to draconian laws such as cutting off someone's hand because they stole something.

NO!

These are examples of entities that can be misused and cause alot of problems. In your case of religion being destroued because a large majority is using it as their excuse for hatred is the exact same THING.

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Cyborg_Putin
Cyborg_Putin Dec 14 2012, 4:18pm replied:

Ovens and games don't cause wars, religion does.

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TheTriangulum
TheTriangulum Dec 14 2012, 6:41pm replied:

oil does mostly. Gold etc, alot of wars used religion's name to gain power and riches like the crusades.

xD imagine a war over who has the best ovens XD

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Cervi_Messias Author
Cervi_Messias Dec 15 2012, 1:32am replied:

Again you sorry hunk of **** i never said ban religion- i said fight
its usually the religious who try and get things banned- because they are against the stuipid stuff in your fairy tales.
honestly this is an atheist group- and you are clearly a extremist fundementalist troll there is nothing for you hear- i suggest you leave, do i have to report you for trolling this group?

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TheTriangulum
TheTriangulum Dec 14 2012, 12:36pm says:

anyways... I am sure one day someone will go on a crusade to destroy religion. If that is to occur. One day you will see me on the pedestal yearning for unity and the demolition of hatred. I do not care if I die. I do not care if i am killed. I would rather die than to succumb to this sickness that plagues the world. Oh and farewell i do not want to communicate with this imbecile anymore, I would rather argue with someone who has some brains and not a false sense of moral high ground.

Adios :D

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Cervi_Messias Author
Cervi_Messias Dec 15 2012, 1:21am replied:

I never said ban religion *******, i said fight it & protect our rights.

but ofcourse you being religious couldnt understand that. because you believe that are rights dont matter but yours do- and that you should be allowed to force your beliefs- just as youi are now.

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TheTriangulum
TheTriangulum Dec 16 2012, 4:19am says:

sry this argument was a misuderstanding and will not happen again. It should have been more civil but exam pressure and stress has caused me to lack any foresight and discipline

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Cervi_Messias Author
Cervi_Messias Dec 22 2012, 3:04am replied:

ageeded, sorry for going anti troll on you tri.

if i had know it was you and not some random troll i would have been more civil.

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