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λpone Creator
λpone Sep 26 2013, 6:18pm says:

Damn commies, Hating God and freedom!

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Frenzied_Metalhead Sep 26 2013, 10:51pm replied:

Yer! Damn dem freedum hatin' hippies and commies!

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Anubis120
Anubis120 Sep 27 2013, 2:45am replied:

What have the commies ever done, they wanted everyone equal, also there will never be freedom because we are always restricted by laws and ethics

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infantryspec
infantryspec Sep 27 2013, 1:52pm replied:

Communism was a great idea...
But badly applied

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Frenzied_Metalhead Sep 27 2013, 3:15pm replied:

It was well applied when Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin was in charge, but the leaders after that let the Union collapse and it's people suffer and starve.

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Lt.Dann
Lt.Dann Sep 27 2013, 4:32pm replied:

Actually it was even bad when Joseph Stalin was in power. In fact, right before Lenin died, he wrote on his will that Joseph shouldn't be in power because he was worried that he was deviating from what Communism was about, however Joseph made sure no one saw that.

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Frenzied_Metalhead Sep 27 2013, 4:52pm replied:

I agree that Stalin was a cruel and corrupt man, and his power had always been in question, but prior to and during WWII there was no better leader for the USSR, only after the war did things really begin to slide down the toilet.

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Spudman619
Spudman619 Sep 27 2013, 5:44pm replied:

None better in terms of getting things done, but surely he could have been nicer about it.

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Mr.Walrus
Mr.Walrus Sep 29 2013, 1:43pm replied:

I find it inaccurate when people look to Stalin as a bad moral figure but someone who was good at 'getting things done' for Communism and should be admired for that. Stalin was a terrible leader long preceding the Second World War, obviously because of his cruelty but also because of how he handled both the country's industrialization and ideological foundations. In terms of the industrialization, he may have made the USSR more modern in terms of heavy industry, but actually lowered the standard of living for the average individual. The emphasis on the industrialization was not quality but quantity, resulting in huge quantities of goods being completely worthless when they didn't need to be. Because Stalin killed most anyone who actually did their job well through purges and many of the intellectuals/professionals of the old regime, the entire industrialization process was handled by people who had no idea what they were doing. The industrialization was immensely inefficient and certainly shouldn't be seen as a grand achievement of Stalin; on of course a moral level, but also largely on simply a scale of efficiency and reasonable thinking, Stalin utterly failed.

Regarding ideology, while it's likely that the USSR was destined for totalitarianism right after the Bolsheviks decided to throw out democratic elections, Stalin completely abolished the ideological foundations of the USSR. Even though Communism was never properly implemented in the early days of the USSR, it was Stalin who killed the ideals of Marxism permanently and turned a fairly promising socialist country a fascist state.

So more or less, Stalin did almost NOTHING right from the moment he gained office. If you don't like the ideals of Communism, he murdered millions in the name of it, and if you do like the ideals of Communism, you can essentially blame him for the death of Marxism.

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Medusa_Zenovka
Medusa_Zenovka Sep 27 2013, 6:19pm replied:

Karl Marx was a wise man. Sadly, communism never really existed outside of a totalitarian regime which were destined for fail, especially since the capitalistic west sabotaged and declared war on communistic countries. A communistic democracy like Marx was looking forward to would be the way to go.

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A quote from a true libertarian and socialist, Karl Marx.

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