You apparently haven't read up much on Natural Selection much, have you? I don't think you understand that explains the 'randomness' you suggest is possible.
Secondly, your taking this way too far in account by saying in one statement that Science can be easily wrong, then you say so surely they got evidence that we came from one man and one woman? How do you know if they are right there?
Thirdly, where the hell are you getting this information from? I don't wanna rain on your parade here but there's many creationists in the past who constantly tried to prove abiogenesis was wrong (like in that one trial in 2005) and ended up getting laughed out of court.
Finally, what the hell are you doing here? Do you see me coming in to the Christian group on ModDb and demanding a debate? Your just trying here thinking you can convert us.
Well, sadly if religious people refuse to be educated then we will refuse to be converted. Simple as that
Nonsense. Simple time and date comparisons between your post here on ModDB and the posting time of the blog suggest that you wrote this ******** yourself, so it's not applicable. And even if it was, it's still nonsense.
Let me just take one of those claims apart:
"Okay. So no fossils exist and we can trace ancestry back to one woman and man. What about the DNA linking us to ape with 98% of our DNA matching theirs?
Answer:
Sorry evolutionists, scientists identified some 40 million differences among the three billion DNA molecules, or nucleotides, in each genome of human and chimp/ape which separates us MASSIVELY from chimps and apes. 40 million differences makes us completely different from chimps and shows we aren't a higher form of ape and that our DNA do not match theirs. Science has proved itself that we don't share 98% DNA with apes."
Yeah, that's called math. When I have 3 billion DNA molecules and you have 3 billion of them and every other human has them and every ape has them too and merely 40 million are different between humans and apes, then that means that 3 billion minus 40 million = 2,960,000,000 DNA molecules are the same.
2.96 billion / 3 billion = 0,986 = 98,6%.
If you cannot even do simple percentage math, you are unqualified to call your ideas "proven" or "scientific".
Cheesus, don't you get it? Facts are proven by outside sources, scientific journals and publications, not a ****** blogpost that fails to do simple math. You want to prove us your theories? Then get science into play. This is the atheist group, on our ground we demand proof and not nonsense some rabbling 13yo made up. Read my above comment again and do the math yourself, then you'll notice that the blog-writer (which I am convinced is you until you prove otherwise) is incapable of science.
And we ask you once again: Why do you keep coming here? No one keeps coming to the Christian group and ****** people off with half-arsed explanations that can be disproven by a calculator and common sense.
Let's go on this from the other side, your side if I may be so bold to call it so. God exists, and whatever he or she may be (since we don't know, it could be a Zeus knock-off, a magical plate of noodles or a girl in a frilly dress for all we care) is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent much like the various hundreds or thousands of Christian derevative religions claim. What gives? Why do we worship a being that's clearly a jackass for not doing anything to prevent evil in the world? According to your line of religions, we do that because s/he made us, but the fact that there is nothing done to lessen suffering in the world can only mean s/he gets off by watching us in misery. So explain to me why I should care then and not simply declare war on heaven and hell? If I may do so, I'll recommend you read "The Salvation War" by Stuart Slate about the hypothetical scenario of just that happening and if you are really interested in debatte rather than converting, you'll read both books to the fullest before coming back. I can send you the files (which are for free) so you can easily access them.
It's not about being smart, it's about common sense. If I can disprove a claim by a handheld calculator, then the claim is flawed. Also, unlike what people may think, I am an atheist at heart but I am not anti-religion. After all I have religious friends. I am merely anti-********.
Either way, I had a few great mentors, though at least one of them is dead by now (to be precise, CommanderJRB - Moddb.com died by falling down the stairs), another is Open_sketchbook ( Moddb.com ) and there are others I forgot right now :P
"Humor is the only test of gravity, and gravity of humor; for a subject which will not bear raillery is suspicious, and a jest which will not bear serious examination is false wit." -Aristotle
Open_sketchbook is very cool. He is very rational on his thinking, he has good ideas and motives, just like you! Im glad to be in this group and will be as truthful on my thoughts.
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Oh really?
http://atheismandevolutiondisproven.blogspot.com/
You apparently haven't read up much on Natural Selection much, have you? I don't think you understand that explains the 'randomness' you suggest is possible.
Secondly, your taking this way too far in account by saying in one statement that Science can be easily wrong, then you say so surely they got evidence that we came from one man and one woman? How do you know if they are right there?
Thirdly, where the hell are you getting this information from? I don't wanna rain on your parade here but there's many creationists in the past who constantly tried to prove abiogenesis was wrong (like in that one trial in 2005) and ended up getting laughed out of court.
Finally, what the hell are you doing here? Do you see me coming in to the Christian group on ModDb and demanding a debate? Your just trying here thinking you can convert us.
Well, sadly if religious people refuse to be educated then we will refuse to be converted. Simple as that
Nonsense. Simple time and date comparisons between your post here on ModDB and the posting time of the blog suggest that you wrote this ******** yourself, so it's not applicable. And even if it was, it's still nonsense.
Let me just take one of those claims apart:
"Okay. So no fossils exist and we can trace ancestry back to one woman and man. What about the DNA linking us to ape with 98% of our DNA matching theirs?
Answer:
Sorry evolutionists, scientists identified some 40 million differences among the three billion DNA molecules, or nucleotides, in each genome of human and chimp/ape which separates us MASSIVELY from chimps and apes. 40 million differences makes us completely different from chimps and shows we aren't a higher form of ape and that our DNA do not match theirs. Science has proved itself that we don't share 98% DNA with apes."
Yeah, that's called math. When I have 3 billion DNA molecules and you have 3 billion of them and every other human has them and every ape has them too and merely 40 million are different between humans and apes, then that means that 3 billion minus 40 million = 2,960,000,000 DNA molecules are the same.
2.96 billion / 3 billion = 0,986 = 98,6%.
If you cannot even do simple percentage math, you are unqualified to call your ideas "proven" or "scientific".
(buried)
No, I didn't write it. BTW Your attempts to explain this away are futile. The facts are there. You just can't admit it.
Cheesus, don't you get it? Facts are proven by outside sources, scientific journals and publications, not a ****** blogpost that fails to do simple math. You want to prove us your theories? Then get science into play. This is the atheist group, on our ground we demand proof and not nonsense some rabbling 13yo made up. Read my above comment again and do the math yourself, then you'll notice that the blog-writer (which I am convinced is you until you prove otherwise) is incapable of science.
And we ask you once again: Why do you keep coming here? No one keeps coming to the Christian group and ****** people off with half-arsed explanations that can be disproven by a calculator and common sense.
Let's go on this from the other side, your side if I may be so bold to call it so. God exists, and whatever he or she may be (since we don't know, it could be a Zeus knock-off, a magical plate of noodles or a girl in a frilly dress for all we care) is omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent much like the various hundreds or thousands of Christian derevative religions claim. What gives? Why do we worship a being that's clearly a jackass for not doing anything to prevent evil in the world? According to your line of religions, we do that because s/he made us, but the fact that there is nothing done to lessen suffering in the world can only mean s/he gets off by watching us in misery. So explain to me why I should care then and not simply declare war on heaven and hell? If I may do so, I'll recommend you read "The Salvation War" by Stuart Slate about the hypothetical scenario of just that happening and if you are really interested in debatte rather than converting, you'll read both books to the fullest before coming back. I can send you the files (which are for free) so you can easily access them.
Your last paragraph stated exactly what I think... Damn, dude you are pretty smart I'll give you that.
We're glad to have you here.
It's not about being smart, it's about common sense. If I can disprove a claim by a handheld calculator, then the claim is flawed. Also, unlike what people may think, I am an atheist at heart but I am not anti-religion. After all I have religious friends. I am merely anti-********.
Either way, I had a few great mentors, though at least one of them is dead by now (to be precise, CommanderJRB - Moddb.com died by falling down the stairs), another is Open_sketchbook ( Moddb.com ) and there are others I forgot right now :P
When I say 'smart', I'm talking about having a rational mind aka using common sense.
"Humor is the only test of gravity, and gravity of humor; for a subject which will not bear raillery is suspicious, and a jest which will not bear serious examination is false wit." -Aristotle
Open_sketchbook is very cool. He is very rational on his thinking, he has good ideas and motives, just like you! Im glad to be in this group and will be as truthful on my thoughts.
Human DNA doesn't actually match with chimps and abiogenesis was never proved. It's a hypothesis. No better than a myth. Try again.