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Spudman619
Spudman619

That must be why they use suicide vests; they'll die first followed by innocent civilians/soldiers/emergency services members several milliseconds later.

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Necrolifer Creator
Necrolifer

Religiously encouraged suicide,sounds like fun is it not?

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GypsyBastard
GypsyBastard

Well it would be a good thing if all Religious Extremists of all faiths follow that advice

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templarnordbyzantine
templarnordbyzantine

I don't comment here but I think you should remove this or reword it, like "If your religion is worth murdering for-"

Why? Let's say this,

An Arabian Christian is being accosted by an Islamic extremist. The extremist says he will kill the Christian if he does not convert. So the Christian precedes to try and kill the extremist because he neither wants to die or give up his faith.

But by this picture's logic, he should just end his own life rather then defend himself.

I rest my case.

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Spudman619
Spudman619

You realise this is a joke and that, as such, hypothetical examples are null and void?

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templarnordbyzantine
templarnordbyzantine

No I did not as no one said so and one of you even sounded off in favor of it.
"Well it would be a good thing if all Religious Extremists of all faiths follow that advice "

And I also assumed that one would not childish enough to actually joke about suicide and religious killings. It is not a laughing matter, people died.

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Spudman619
Spudman619

You'll find a lot of sarcasm on this page. Seems to be a relatively recent thing.

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ComradeWinston Author
ComradeWinston

Well, on a somewhat serious note then. Do you really think when it is the case that Muslims come after a minority religion, they don't have superior numbers or firepower? Psychopaths they may be, chances are they aren't blithering morons.

Either you do the smart thing and lie/convert or you end up in a mass-grave. Historically, most have not been provided such a kind set of choices. However, if they're being conscripted or threatened in any real sense then self defense is perfectly reasonable.

Generally though, I wouldn't mind a few islamofascists getting put down. They're practically Nazis, except their Hitler is someone they kill people for having drawn a cartoon of. To begin with, this is only reference to religious fascism.

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templarnordbyzantine
templarnordbyzantine

Submission? That is what Christians did in the middle east when they were first conquered. And there identity was slowly eroded.

Put down? They are not mongrels to be put down. If that is the general view of atheists then the problem will only get worse and worse because if you "put them all down" twice as many will rise from the ashes, because you made them all martyrs and proved them right.

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ComradeWinston Author
ComradeWinston

Cultures live and die, they're not much more relevant to reality than religions; bluejeans taking over the planet, are an easy example. Whatever's relevant to one's prosperity becomes standard practice, even human sacrifice served such purpose.

Nothing's easy. Unlike most others I wager, I wouldn't mind the idea of a 'purge' where nations of the middle east or the west united in a consolidated effort to rid of the plague that is Islamofascism by whatever obtainable means. Civilization would be far better off without having to deal with those psychopaths bent on taking over the world through nothing more than the occasional terrorist attack.

Again though it would require some unified effort that didn't involve racism, so I doubt much the possibility of such a dedicated effort even entering the realm of consideration. That probably doesn't help in the whole 'most people not liking the idea' thing.

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templarnordbyzantine
templarnordbyzantine

Then they have already won against you, as a person's culture, beliefs, identity, and traditions are exactly what they're targeting, because without them, victory is all to easy.

But I had enough of this, goodbye.

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ComradeWinston Author
ComradeWinston

My only significant identifying belief is described by that wonderful old French saying: Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité. There is nothing more poisonous to such fascists. If that by your standards is defeat, I don't want to know what your definition of utopia is.

Adieu.

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