A group for those without religion, as well as those who oppose it. Atheism and Agnosticism and Anti-theism.

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DDguy
DDguy

Atheists: Winning since always.

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KnightofEquulei
KnightofEquulei

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Yeah because everyone is an atheist right?

Oh wait, no, they're not.

You can only win if your opponent agrees with you and you convince them that you're right. Having your army of sheep pat you on the back with every word you say does not constitute to a "win" it just means you've got people who share your beliefs.

In which case, since Christianity has more adherents, according to this flawed logic, we win by default.

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Medusa_Zenovka
Medusa_Zenovka

No, you can only win if you have the evidence behind you, not the most people. It doesnt matter if your opponent agrees or not, its absolutely irrelevant. You need evidence and thats where christianity is failing as all religions. You have nothing to back up the existence of your god(s) and until you have them, which becomes more and more unlikely the further science progresses as it does, christianity will/did always lose.

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Yuribeard7
Yuribeard7

Nobody has any "winning" evidence behind them. So, for the time being, nobody wins. Either side is far from "winning". I'm at the point where I just tell people who refuse to listen that they "will see when the time comes" and I'll say "I told you so."

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Medusa_Zenovka
Medusa_Zenovka

Not exactly. The christian god for example created the world 6000 - 10000 years ago, according to YECs at least. This thing has been debanked decades ago, so those who strongly belief in the christian god already lost. The religious folks in general lost in several ways. Quite far away from the "nobody wins". Only side that could win are deists, if it turns out that there is a god.

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Cervi_Messias Creator
Cervi_Messias

well not always back when we knew nothing there explanation was as good as any

but not amymore
because now we know and have no excuse for fairytales

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Aralvar
Aralvar

And how do the religious folks get around this one? "Oh, he lets you have free will, so he can't stop someone from doing evil." Yeah, God just couldn't stop Adolf Hitler from killing millions of people because that would be messing with his free will, which is far more important than saving millions of lives. I mean, they probably all went to Heaven, right? -_-

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Kalga Creator
Kalga

No, they all went to Hell because they worshiped God in the wrong way (not even worshiping the wrong god, just worshiping the "right" God in the wrong way).

... and people wonder why I stopped believe in a divine being.

... and as for free will, it's like one of those RPGs where when you choose the wrong choice and you won't even notice it until you get a bad end.

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juicytoot
juicytoot

I take a theology course because i find it interesting, and the main excuse seems to be that his will is too much for humans to fathom.

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aj8898
aj8898

There are many questions in how science and evolution works, and those aren't answered, so both sides have unanswered questions.

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Cervi_Messias Creator
Cervi_Messias

Thats the point of science- we dont have the answers so we try and find out more.

religion say we know the answers and try to ignore reality.

Hiding from what you dont know is never the way to answer anything.
Thats why science is correct and faith isnt.

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aj8898
aj8898

I'm not hiding. There is no true way to prove either.

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TheTriangulum
TheTriangulum

EDIT: forget it i deleted my comment.

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Cpt.Dann
Cpt.Dann

The first 4 letters of his name describe him very accurately.

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