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Canon, what is it? Yes it is a type of artillery fixture however it has another meaning. "To understand canon and continuity, the overall Star Wars saga should be looked at as a set of stories written by many different people which "document\" past "events." Although some stories are more reliable than others, they all are looked upon as part of the overall "history." It should also be remembered that all of these stories are simply that-stories. There are numerous errors that inevitably arise between the stories simply because different authors have their own ways of telling the story and may not have the time and resources to perfectly align the details."- Wookieepedia. Different types of canon are present. In Star Wars canon, the highest level of canon is the 6 films made by George Lucas, the next level of cannon includes Tv Series such as the 2 Clone Wars series one made by Dave Filloni and the other by Genndy Tartakovsky. Last but not least, the next level of canon is the Novels and Comics written and published by various authors and companies.
In Tolkien's franchise, the concept of Canon is a little more complex, for the subject is still being debated. Naturally, the highest canon material is works published by J. R. R. Tolkien and his son, Christopher Tolkien. "I would draw some of the great tales in fullness, and leave many only placed in the scheme, and sketched. The cycles should be linked to a majestic whole, and yet leave scope for other minds and hands, wielding paint and music and drama ." - J.R.R Tolkien. From 2001 to 2003, film maker, Peter Jackson released 3 films depicting his interpretation of The Lord Of the Rings trilogy. Certain events that Jackson cut out or re-wrote in his interpretation sparked controversy amongst some fans of the series. The biggest issue was that in Jackson's interpretation of The Return Of The King in 2003, depicted the Shire a happy and un-touched place after the destruction of the one ring. In Tolkien's book, when Frodo returns from destroying the ring, the Shire is in ruins, industrialized, and secretly under the control of Saruman. Despite the differences, Jackson's films are loved and enjoyed and will continue to be enjoyed for years to come.
The goal of this group, The Alliance To Restore Canon, is to compile and discuss contradictions with canon in various sci-fi and fantasy franchises. Not to criticize the franchises but to simply make note of the contradictions and ask "how does this contradict? Why does this contradict? Is it an accident or on purpose? Is it directly from the franchise or one of the many independent authors?". So again, we are not criticizing the franchises, just wondering why these contradictions exist and why have they not been fixed. Something as simple as deeming it uncanon can fix a contradiction. Like the 2008 Clone Wars series for example, George Lucas has not yet officially declared the series canon and whether or whether not the series will re-write existing canon entirely or simply add to the time- line that had been established before 2008.
At the moment, the Alliance To Restore Canon is mostly made up of star wars fans, but we are open to other sci-fi and fantasy series so if you have found contradictions in other franchises and feel as if your not being heard, don't be afraid to join. All are welcome and all are treated with respect.


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nowhere3pro
nowhere3pro Jun 24 2013, 4:28am says:

have you guys ever thought about talking about the something else other than the pre-2008 and how the new contradicts one it? like for example in the battle of Coruscant. In the animated series, Mace Windu and Yoda together destroyed a small army of battle droids, whereas Labyrinth of Evil implied that Yoda did not participate at all and depicted Windu dueling Grievous aboard a maglev train, which was mentioned in the Revenge of the Sith novelization. In Labyrinth of Evil, the Jedi defending Palpatine (Roron Corobb, Foul Moudama and Shaak Ti) were defeated relatively quickly by Grievous, whereas in the animated series they were involved in a long chase before finally being defeated. Honstaly this group used to be good when I first joined a year(and I don't want sound like ozzy) but all this group now has turned into is a I hate the new clone wars group.

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Commissar_Delta
Commissar_Delta Jun 24 2013, 11:35am replied:

when the new films come out there will be plenty of discussion, i will assure you. As for now the large issue is the destruction that TCW has done to the timeline. If the show had stayed in it's original span which was a couple months in the year 19BBY, there wouldn't be as many issues as their are presently (there would still be the issues with ventress's leaving the dark acolytes, adi galla's death, Evaan Peil's (not sure on the spelling of his name)death, bariss offee's demise, issue with maul taking over mandalore, the portrayal of the dathomir witches, etc).

as for labyrinth of evil vs SW:CW, because yoda did not appear in the battle in the novel, does not necessarily mean that he didn't participate in the battle. and yes i was disappointed that they didn't have mace windu fighting grevious on the maglevs but he was still awesome taking control of the vulture droid and helping the forces in the air. and was it really so bad that they extended Ti, Corobbs, and Moudama's fight scene?
Nothing for nothing, at least SW:CW acknowledged that there were other sources out there. 3 years later TCW comes along and attempts to throw all of this out the window and, if leeland chee didn't at least compress the media of the CWMMP, it would have suceeded.

what happened really? in between 2005 and 2008 did everyone have their minds whipped? or is the attention span of star wars fans less than a year? because it seems that very few people remember the miniseries, few people remember the novels, remember the comics, and remember some of the video games (minus bf2, everybody loves bf2) and i find it frustrating that people just love things that TCW has done that isn't really the best. for example the whole resurrecting maul thing, does anyone else think that's a little un-creative and repetitive or is it just me? just... come on people

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nowhere3pro
nowhere3pro Jun 24 2013, 11:59am replied:

yes there are some issues with TCW ( I can bet the reason they resurrected maul was a marketing strategy by lucasfilm because the episodes in which he first appeared in the flesh in season 4 was round about the same time the same time they released the phantom menace in 3d) and I have read most of the pre-08 comics(and again I have to admit those are way better than the ones that are based on TCW) But you do have to admit there are some good points apart from destroying parts of the Timeline?

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Commissar_Delta
Commissar_Delta Jun 24 2013, 1:50pm replied:

the one thing TCW did realy well was individualizing the clones, the problem they had further down the line was they made them too individualistic to the point where they're committing treason, intentionally deserting (MIA is understandable and it did happen in the old timeline) and refusing to comply with orders. Yes the ARC Troopers and Commanders are specially bread where they arnt as genetically modified as as your generic bottom of the barrel clone troopers, and that's fine, its natural for them to question orders. its when your generic clone troopers start doing this, then there is a problem. Now, they've tryed to cover their own ***** by saying that they had to stretch Jango's DNA and that would be perfectly explainable if the series stayed within its original timespan of 19BBY, but now that it's been extended to 22BBY, that would make the traitor and deserter episodes around 21BBY and the umbara episodes around 20BBY. at those intervals, a majority of the clones active in the GAR were amung the first few bathces of clones that were deployed on the first Battle of Geonosis in AOTC. they should be just as obedient as they were.

Now for ahsoka, she is a wonderful female roll model for young star wars fans, opening up the franchise to a whole new demographic, but did they have to make her anakin's apprentice? Any follower of the previously established cannon can tell you that even after his knighting, anakin didn't really seem fit to have an apprentice of his own.

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Niner Skirata
Niner Skirata Jun 23 2013, 1:23pm says:

Everybody must know it: Youtube.com

Still better than 3D

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Commissar_Delta
Commissar_Delta Jun 23 2013, 2:12pm replied:

animation and the hand art that we see in the old CW comics are a true art form,and today's generation has been spoiled by CGI for he past 15 years and i don't think they appreciate it as much as they should.

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Kemasuk
Kemasuk Mar 12 2014, 10:40pm replied:

Sadly, the world runs on laziness

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Mister_Vogel
Mister_Vogel Jun 17 2013, 8:29pm says:

What happened ?

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Commissar_Delta
Commissar_Delta Jun 17 2013, 10:17pm replied:

i dont recall anything significant happening, what would you be referring to?

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Mister_Vogel
Mister_Vogel Jun 18 2013, 1:15pm replied:

Most of the images gone.Or,at least i think so...

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Commissar_Delta
Commissar_Delta Jun 18 2013, 3:55pm replied:

no the funny memes are still there, you just gotta sift

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Commissar_Delta
Commissar_Delta Jun 14 2013, 1:46pm says:

alright guys, im at a loss. I've been trying to up the groups popularity but i cant get it passed number 15.

you guys do know that you can post stuff too right?

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Commissar_Delta
Commissar_Delta Jun 14 2013, 8:33pm replied:

so yeah im encouraging you guys to be more active in this community.

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