Of Maul, Witches, and Mandalorians
May 20, 2013 News 15 commentsThis article is to teach the target audience of TCW how things used to be before they're beloved show came along.
Supreme Chancellor/ Co- Founder: RC-100NICK
Vice Chancellor/ Founder: Delta289
grand admiral /(LONEWOLF) AKA shadowdude100
Canon, what is it? Yes it is a type of artillery fixture however it has another meaning. “To understand canon and continuity, the overall Star Wars saga should be looked at as a set of stories written by many different people which "document\" past "events." Although some stories are more reliable than others, they all are looked upon as part of the overall "history." It should also be remembered that all of these stories are simply that—stories. There are numerous errors that inevitably arise between the stories simply because different authors have their own ways of telling the story and may not have the time and resources to perfectly align the details.”- Wookieepedia. Different types of canon are present. In Star Wars canon, the highest level of canon is the 6 films made by George Lucas, the next level of cannon includes Tv Series such as the 2 Clone Wars series one made by Dave Filloni and the other by Genndy Tartakovsky. Last but not least, the next level of canon is the Novels and Comics written and published by various authors and companies.
In Tolkien's franchise, the concept of Canon is a little more complex, for the subject is still being debated. Naturally, the highest canon material is works published by J. R. R. Tolkien and his son, Christopher Tolkien. “I would draw some of the great tales in fullness, and leave many only placed in the scheme, and sketched. The cycles should be linked to a majestic whole, and yet leave scope for other minds and hands, wielding paint and music and drama .” - J.R.R Tolkien. From 2001 to 2003, film maker, Peter Jackson released 3 films depicting his interpretation of The Lord Of the Rings trilogy. Certain events that Jackson cut out or re-wrote in his interpretation sparked controversy amongst some fans of the series. The biggest issue was that in Jackson's interpretation of The Return Of The King in 2003, depicted the Shire a happy and un-touched place after the destruction of the one ring. In Tolkien's book, when Frodo returns from destroying the ring, the Shire is in ruins, industrialized, and secretly under the control of Saruman. Despite the differences, Jackson's films are loved and enjoyed and will continue to be enjoyed for years to come.
The goal of this group, The Alliance To Restore Canon, is to compile and discuss contradictions with canon in various sci-fi and fantasy franchises. Not to criticize the franchises but to simply make note of the contradictions and ask “how does this contradict? Why does this contradict? Is it an accident or on purpose? Is it directly from the franchise or one of the many independent authors?”. So again, we are not criticizing the franchises, just wondering why these contradictions exist and why have they not been fixed. Something as simple as deeming it uncanon can fix a contradiction. Like the 2008 Clone Wars series for example, George Lucas has not yet officially declared the series canon and whether or whether not the series will re-write existing canon entirely or simply add to the time- line that had been established before 2008.
At the moment, the Alliance To Restore Canon is mostly made up of star wars fans, but we are open to other sci-fi and fantasy series so if you have found contradictions in other franchises and feel as if your not being heard, don't be afraid to join. All are welcome and all are treated with respect.
This article is to teach the target audience of TCW how things used to be before they're beloved show came along.
Im making my own Clone Wars Show... with blackjack! and hookers! no but seriously, im in the process of writing my own show just for the sheer fun of it.
The last development update i will write before version 1.0 of the Star Wars: Clone Wars Submod is eleased
All we had to worry about before was continuity but there is a far greater darkness gaining strength.
Calling all ARC members! If you've joined ARC then you probably did it because you love expanded universe, so why not join the Expanded Universe fan group?...
my original statement: "if they're having Greedo speak basic why didn't they have jabba speak basic?"
I was using Jabba as a comparison i never directly said "jabba only speaks huttese"
you haven't "won" anything you haven't "proven anyone wrong" you merely corrected me.
dont treat this like some sort of victory because it isn't. it is a distraction from the greedo debate. a "straw man" argument.
neither did i say that Greedo only speaks rodian. i simply questioned the logic behind making him speak english. ozzy did present some plausible explanations but he completley ignores the fact that, people in the star wars movies tend to automatically understand each other. for example: R2 only speaks in beeps yet everyone automatically understands what hes saying.
Disney shutting down lucasart WTF + why can't i see pictures and videos i have a grey square with "Image" O_O
You can delete this comment, it was just a panic excess...
But I'm glad it's over.
Ahh, so the argument started here, then to the team message, doesn't it? And for those who thinks that the timeline is conflicted. Let me remind you, the Clone Wars is three GALACTIC STANDARD years. A Galactic Standard year doesn't have to be the same as Earth's year. A Galactic Standard year could've been like 20 months, not 12 like Earth's year. It's another Universe guys, everything doesn't have to be the same. For me, I think 90% of EU in the Clone Wars can fit in the Timeline.
a galactic standard year is based on coruscant's year which is the same as an earth year
In all seriousness Delta is very likely right about this one although it is possible he speaks basic and simply uses the translation droid as a formality because he is the "great Jabba" I don't believe that is the case.
There were no quotations. The part started off with Xizor talking to Jabba and Jabba was speaking Huttese (it had the quotations for the translations). But Xizor simply asked Jabba to speak in Basic. Then Jabba said alright and started speaking Basic. And there were NO quotations. I know this because I read the book several times for it is my favorite Star Wars novel.
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another way is to italicize the dialogue. even if they did none of those things to indicate if he was speaking huttese, since he did it in the film, the reader can infer that jabba is speaking huttese and that the English that he/she is reading are the subtitles. if that makes any sense to you. its always hard to tell with written works, looks like ill have to put shadows of the empire on my list of books to read.
long story short its implyed that hes speaking huttese
Um he just said Xizor asked Jabba to speak basic and the Huttese was in quotations and the basic part was not. It seems Dark is right on this one.