'Paint Shop' Mode Thread - Vector Thrust

I know this has been asked several thousand times and I'm pretty sure there were a couple of threads regarding this request already (ACAH-like custom paintjob), but is it actually possible to alter plane skin's hue-saturation-lightness-chrome/glosiness values in-game? (missile trails too, perhaps)

Not that I know of, no.

Times has the answer and I know it, but I'm pretty sure the only way to make new paintschemes is to Photoshop/GIMP.

Either search is broken or the post disappeared. I know someone brought up Trackmania's editor and the possibility of using something similar in an in-game skin editor.

For the assault horizon system I know there is a way to replace colors with other colors (they do it in the civ games-anything magenta gets replaced with a civ-specific color.) Trackmania's editor actually sucks most of the time-you really need photoshop or GIMP to make a paint job that stands out.

bornloser wrote: Trackmania's editor actually sucks most of the time-you really need photoshop or GIMP to make a paint job that stands out.

and this right here is why you don't make TM Painter Editors, TM glitches the paint up and either way it's not quite as versatile as Photoshoooooop

No need to be as complicated and derpy as TM's paint editor, I'm only looking for something capable of doing this

A color picker would be nice. Would also be cool if the skins had interchangeable roundels (like the insignias in world of tanks) but I don't know if you could make it look good.

BTW what game is that?

bornloser wrote: A color picker would be nice. Would also be cool if the skins had interchangeable roundels (like the insignias in world of tanks) but I don't know if you could make it look good.

BTW what game is that?

X3: Terran Conflict (or its standalone DLC, X3: Albion Prelude).

I'd love a custom roundel feature as well but it's either a hit-or-miss thing.

way i would do roundels (and squadron emblems) would be to have the roundels and markings be a second skin that goes over the first one (high LOD models only to save resources.) It would the markings would be painted over the template (with overlay filter) and then the unpainted part of the template would be replaced with full alpha. Not sure how much resources 2 overlapping textures would use but hopefully only drawing the roundel layer on nearby planes would help.

Depending on the number of planned permutations this would save you a lot of individual skins.

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bornloser wrote: emblems and squadrons stuff blah blah blah

Depending on the number of planned permutations this would save you a lot of individual skins.

oh so Joint Assault's system then

szboudreau01 wrote:

bornloser wrote: emblems and squadrons stuff blah blah blah

Depending on the number of planned permutations this would save you a lot of individual skins.

oh so Joint Assault's system then

Let's say it's JA and AH (for the 'paintshop' part I'm talking about) system combined.

Also I remember some hyperrealism flight sims (Strike Fighters series, LOMAC & its ilk) allows changing plane's flight/tail number ingame, but that might require separate number decals for every plane.

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those numbers usually don't look very good because they just get painted over the texture. Best way would be to make the template the top layer (can you do multiply filters in real time?) followed by the markings and numbers with the actual pain job on the bottom, but I get the feeling this would be a huge resource hog.

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Didn't Falcon 4.0 use an overlay system like that too? I remember being able to select squadron decals and it didn't look bad.

huh. maybe. I was only going on what IL-2 Sturmovik does (which looked fine because all the graphics are dated)

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Technically I don’t see with it would work, but I only fear it gives a negative impact in lower specs PCs.

I see two options, dynamic blending were all layers are separated and can change color at any time but may lower the framerate.
Or static blending, were at the start of the match all this costume paintjobs are written in the memory as a unit texture, but this may eat a lot of memory as a result.

timeSymmetry wrote: Technically I don’t see with it would work, but I only fear it gives a negative impact in lower specs PCs.

I see two options, dynamic blending were all layers are separated and can change color at any time but may lower the framerate.
Or static blending, were at the start of the match all this costume paintjobs are written in the memory as a unit texture, but this may eat a lot of memory as a result.

I see, but how about make it only for HIGH/VERY HIGH graphics option?

i.e in X3:Terran Conflict, such feature is enabled only if the graphics setting is set to HIGH. Therefore the custom color cannot be seen in lower detail level (even if you changed the color value in-game).

timeSymmetry wrote: Technically I don’t see with it would work, but I only fear it gives a negative impact in lower specs PCs.

I see two options, dynamic blending were all layers are separated and can change color at any time but may lower the framerate.
Or static blending, were at the start of the match all this costume paintjobs are written in the memory as a unit texture, but this may eat a lot of memory as a result.

what if you wrote the skins to a cache and gave them a naming convention based on the component textures to prevent duplicates? Then the next time around the game could check the cache for the requested permutation and load it instead of making it all over again. You wouldn't need that many of these textures loaded at one time, just enough for the player and ace squadrons-no one will be looking at the fodder planes close up.

Also, I'd request a feature to change the canopy's tint & transparancy.

i.e, some planes (AFAIK, Raptor and Rafale) have yellow/gold-ish canopy.

For those with enclosed cockpit (read: COFFIN-like), the tint should change the camera's 'lights' (or whatever glowing parts around the cockpit) instead.

Edited by: Nergal01

Stylized mirrored cockpits that look something like what this guy pulled off would be pretty amazing: Youtube.com

I see two options, dynamic blending were all layers are separated and can change color at any time but may lower the framerate.
Or static blending, were at the start of the match all this costume paintjobs are written in the memory as a unit texture, but this may eat a lot of memory as a result.

I'd like to hear whether there's any "better" alternative for these method after all.

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Boogie_Van wrote: Stylized mirrored cockpits that look something like what this guy pulled off would be pretty amazing

and also be useful for the rapturrr

Nergal01 wrote: Also, I'd request a feature to change the canopy's tint & transparancy.

i.e, some planes (AFAIK, Raptor and Rafale) have yellow/gold-ish canopy.

For those with enclosed cockpit (read: COFFIN-like), the tint should change the camera's 'lights' (or whatever glowing parts around the cockpit) instead.

Some planes like the BAE Hawk have markings on the canopy so the ability to texture glass (using alpha for transparency) would be nice too.

Imgur.com

No idea how he does this (actually I used to know, it involves telling CryEngine to have surfaces reflect certain amounts of light in some files stashed away in CitizenClient), but, it's pretty neat all the same.

bornloser wrote: Some planes like the BAE Hawk have markings on the canopy so the ability to texture glass (using alpha for transparency) would be nice too.

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