Hi! I'm Dirkson. I'm trying to make one of the most accurate space combat simulation games. Ever.

For some reason this includes a lot more space cows and butter than I thought it would.

So far it's got voxels, multiplayer, heat simulation, kilometer long spaceships, real world materials, organic ships, and awesome music. Eventually, it's going to have AI crew, inertia, planets, and more.

  • Want to build a granite mothership with dozens of fighters? You can do that.
  • A spinning battleship with a three meter thick titanium hull? Sure, that too.
  • A butter asteroid-tug than melts whenever you turn on the engines? Of course!

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Backend Work

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Hey all!

So image updates have been sparse since the last livestream. Why? I've been rearranging some of the ScrumbleShip backend. Let's dig into that a little.

Backend

Currently, the way rendering works is something like this:

    • One thread locates and Caches nearby blocks within your ship, storing its result inside the ship memory structure.
    • Another thread picks through your ships, locating and assembling blocks into a list. Then, it orders this list, and copies the Cache from its location in the ship memory structure to a temporary Voxel List. Once it's done with that, it goes through every other ship and does something similar.
    • The render thread uploads the entire Voxel List from system memory to gpu memory, every single frame, then renders it with a single opengl draw call.


There's a lot of weird behavior too, like backwards sharing of ordered ship-lists, which causes threads to wait for each other.

The biggest problem with this system is that it requires me to re-send ALL the voxel data EVERY frame. As the ScrumbleShip engine gets better at rendering voxels, I can both send more voxels to the gpu, and send more data about those voxels to the gpu. So I'm starting to use too much bandwidth between the computer's memory and its graphics card. For example, the extra data sent by the lighting change needlessly costs us around 10fps.

So reducing the number of sends is a high priority on my list. But as I was studying to fix the problem, I noticed several interesting facts about the current rendering pipeline, and I developed a plan to make it better. Here's an experiment I did to prove a particular point:

supposedtolooklikethat

This proved to me that I COULD render efficiently using multiple opengl draw calls, which opens up a lot of interesting optimizations.

So the new plan is:

    • One thread maintains lists of ships in distance orders and hands them out as-needed.
    • Another thread maintains lists of ship chunks in distance orders and hands them out as-needed.
    • Another thread uses these ordered chunk lists to create a list of visible blocks.
    • The caching thread goes through this list of visible blocks, preparing nearby blocks for rendering and storing the result in the ship chunk list.
    • The rendering thread goes through the list of nearby blocks, uploading their data to the gpu as they get close enough to render. Then it goes through the list of visible blocks, rendering them in batches using separate opengl
      draw calls.


What advantages does the newer pipeline have?

    • It'll render the nearest blocks, regardless of which ship they're in. No more weird block-unloading when two ships are close together
    • It'll operate smoother on multi-core machines, with less time wasted on waiting for other threads
    • It'll render very large ships and asteroids, up to 1km in diameter. The current system can't handle asteroids much bigger than 100m across.
    • It'll use less system memory to do the rendering.
    • I only need to upload/remove block data from the gpu when its render status changes, rather than every frame. Potentially 10-15fps boost.
  • It'll open the way for the following potential optimizations:
  • GPU-based Occlusion Culling, potentially a 2x-5x rendering performance boost.
  • Voxel-face rendering instead of entire-voxel rendering, for a potential 2x performance boost.
  • Distant ships can be rendered as billboards, for a solid performance boost.
  • Geometry-shader based dynamic voxel creation, with an unknown (1x-5x) performance boost.

Any disadvantages?

    • Rendering in multiple opengl calls costs anywhere from 2 to 10fps.
    • It causes Dirkson to work for a couple weeks on features that don't yet make good screenshots, videos, or bleeding edge releases.

At this point, I estimate I've got maybe another week left to switch to the new pipeline. Then I should start putting out cool videos like this one again:

I'm aiming for the next full release sometime in February. It'll contain the lighting changes, lots of performance improvements, the mining torch, a complete UI overhaul, and a building-system overhaul.

Cheers!
-Dirk

Asteroids

Asteroids

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Asteroids are awesome, contain valuable minerals, and will butter your toast for you.

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ScrumbleShip 0.3 - Phoenix

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This past week has included a few fun new additions for ScrumbleShip.

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Shaders so sharp you'll cut yourself

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ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.23 - Windows

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.23 - Windows

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Alpha release 0.23 of the ScrumbleShip Demo, released for free on a Creative Commons License.

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.23 - Mac OSX

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.23 - Mac OSX

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Alpha release 0.23 of the ScrumbleShip Demo, released for free on a Creative Commons License.

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.23 - Linux

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.23 - Linux

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Alpha release 0.23 of the ScrumbleShip Demo, released for free on a Creative Commons License.

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.20 - Windows

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.20 - Windows

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Alpha release 0.20 of the ScrumbleShip Demo, released for free on a Creative Commons License.

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.20 - Mac OSX

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.20 - Mac OSX

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Alpha release 0.20 of the ScrumbleShip Demo, released for free on a Creative Commons License.

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.20 - Linux

ScrumbleShip Alpha Demo 0.20 - Linux

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Alpha release 0.20 of the ScrumbleShip Demo, released for free on a Creative Commons License.

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λpone
λpone

Can't wait for a 64-bit version!

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dirkson Creator
dirkson

The linux 64 bit version is already out, and the windows version works fine on Windows 64 bit. If you're having problems running it, drop me a line and we'll see if we can't get it working.

Cheers!
-Dirk

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λpone
λpone

I did not know that. The game crashes when I hit play, Are there any certain programs I need to run it?

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dirkson Creator
dirkson

A crash when you hit play is USUALLY indicative of outdated amd graphics drivers. You can either update them or use the amd fix posted here: Demo.scrumbleship.com

Let me know if it works!
-Dirk

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Pabo
Pabo

Congratulations on meeting your Kickstarter goal! I've posted about your campaign in this thread ( Indiedb.com ).If there's any info I might have missed/you want me to add, tell me and I'll edit it right away!

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dirkson Creator
dirkson

Hey thanks! Your writeup looks excellent.

Cheers,
-Dirk

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keyersuzi
keyersuzi

Sweet job mate, Ya beat your kickstater :D

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duartel
duartel

*Yawn* I've known this game for ages, and I've never been able to play it ;_;
Please, please, PLEASE make it intel compatible. I love this kind of games...

Ah well, I'm just hoping that "near future" comes soon ;_;

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l0d1z
l0d1z

Hey, looks like your kickstarter was a success, congratz!

Cheers! =)

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Deathstalker206
Deathstalker206

if it is not present you should add energy shields which are resistant to laser weapons and redirect their heat away from the ship... with the adition of shield generators of course.

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dirkson Creator
dirkson

Dynamic.scrumbleship.com - This page has a little info on shields.

Basically, I want to model them as magnetic fields, because that's the closest real-world equivalent to shields.

Cheers!
-Dirk

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KyleXreX
KyleXreX

You are so smart, just made me cry.

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