Two decades have passed since the demonic denizens, Diablo, Mephisto, and Baal, wandered the world of Sanctuary in a vicious rampage to shackle humanity into unholy slavery. Yet for those who battled the Prime Evils directly, the memory fades slowly and the wounds of the soul still burn.

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What will happen to the modding community for the new Diablo game on release?

Posted by Henley on Aug 1st, 2011

News broke today about Diablo 3's brand new player controlled economy allowing players to sell their hard earned loot for gold and cash. This means a few things for players, the first is that there will be no "offline". The entire game will require an active internet connection to make sure that players are not gaming the system, and unfortunately this also means the death of modding for the IP.

Blizzard_FAQ wrote:For a variety of gameplay and security reasons, we will not be supporting bots or mods in Diablo III, and they'll be expressly prohibited by our terms of use for the game.


Expressly prohibited, not just unsupported but illegal by the Diablo 3 ToS. A sad day considering how big and active the Diablo 2 modding community still is. Will we still see new mods and updates for Diablo 2 in-spite of this announcement or will the players merge over to the game similar to the Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 modding scene?

Source: Pcgamer.com

I suppose it is good news for indie developers, with top indie games like Minecraft, Mount & Blade, Amnesia and most others, really focusing on their modding tools. Will be great to see awesome mods continue to come from the community for those games.

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Cuthberth
Cuthberth Aug 3 2011, 3:24am says:

Maybe it's time to make our own Java-based server like in L2???

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J05H_DA
J05H_DA Aug 3 2011, 5:31am says:

not a big deal. did anyone even play diablo 2 mods?

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jaxa
jaxa Aug 3 2011, 11:05am replied:

Median XL duh

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Undying_Zombie
Undying_Zombie Aug 3 2011, 6:07pm replied:

I can think of at least 4 besides Median that I have played. ( Cant remember all the names though at the moment, seems like it has been forever.. though those mods have long since died out due to patches on D2 and no one updating those mods.. )

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DedMustDie
DedMustDie Aug 3 2011, 6:00am says:

It's really bad news... Damn, I knew that there won't be anything good after Activision joined Blizzard...

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Undying_Zombie
Undying_Zombie Aug 3 2011, 6:11pm replied:

Don't be mistaken, this is Blizzard's choice. They firmly said that Activision will be out of the decision making when it comes to the games themselves.

Guess this should not be much of a shock though considering they are going to be adding in a marketplace setup for SC2 in Heart of the Swarm. Granted not as game breaking ( my opinion ) as the Diablo 3 marketplace will be.

Personally I think they are making this as an experiment. If it makes it into the release of the game that is. If it does well enough in their eyes expect to see more of things like it in other games.

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DedMustDie
DedMustDie Aug 3 2011, 6:43pm replied:

Some time ago I wanted to buy Diablo 3 just for single player content. I had no internet when I've been playing D1, it was good. Then I've seen some cool multiplayer ideas for D3, I though I was going to preorder it.

But now, after recent news (no mods and in-game real money auction) I'm gonna try a cracked version.

In case you guys think that D3 won't be cracked - look at Starcraft 2. There's already a crack that allows players to play in LAN-style. Not going to describe the process here. Google has it all.

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Conchobhar
Conchobhar Aug 3 2011, 7:38am says:

It's deeper than just this.
Chinese prisoners farming in WOW, now in Diablo 3.
This is an atrocity, as said by the publisher of the article,
"In my opinion, Blizzard hasn’t done enough to combat this, as they’re content with their title just making tons of money, ignoring the fact that it’s 100,000 people’s FULL TIME JOB in China to help corrupt their system"

Blogs.forbes.com

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Undying_Zombie
Undying_Zombie Aug 3 2011, 6:14pm replied:

Won't matter too much to them with this system. Since Blizzard will be getting a cut of the money no matter what.

A fee for using the auction setup.
A fee for putting an item up for auction.
A fee for placing a bid.
A fee for the winning bid.

Even if it is a small percentage like 5%. They will still be making tons of money off of it.

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7game
7game Aug 3 2011, 10:39am says:

That sucks.

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DamnNoHtml
DamnNoHtml Aug 3 2011, 12:33pm buried:

(buried)

Oh my god I cannot stand the amount of bitching that comes from the gaming community. If you don't like the game, don't buy it. Don't resort to literal theft to "prove a point." You're just being a stupid elitist criminal. To people who go "BUT BLIZZARD ARE THE REAL CRIMINALS WTIH BLAH BLAH", seriously just go away. It is a VIDEO GAME. Stop voicing political concerns and other ridiculous things, my god. I seriously hate the gaming community so much.

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DedMustDie
DedMustDie Aug 3 2011, 6:45pm replied:

Hating yourself isn't the best idea. You'd not be here you weren't a part of gaming community. Or atleast a gamer.

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Trailhog250
Trailhog250 Aug 3 2011, 7:53pm says:

I've got something to say to pirates and anti-pirates. First off, let me say it can't be that big of a deal or someone in a black car in a black suit with a black gun would show up at your house.

You actually think game companies are this stupid? They know there are pirates and cracks and so on. It's not a secret, it actually incredibly EASY to find. Do you actually think it's that big of a deal? I'm sorry but no one is going to lose any sleep if someone pirates a game. Not the devs, the pirates, anti-pirates, etc.

If it was threatening their sales do you know what they would do? It's simple, get in touch with a rather experienced hacker (yet they're out there) and he could shut down that site pirating games in mere seconds. And to a more extreme tone if the government was concerned they would do the same thing. With their technology, their knowledge, their computers they could shut the whole internet down if they wanted to. In a way I actually believe pirating is a form of advertising. People are still playing your game... Making it more and more popular.

The devs are not as simple-minded as the gaming community thinks. They know it happens, they know this will spread the popularity of the game and encourage more people to buy/download/pirate it.

Put it in comparison people.

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darkace256
darkace256 Aug 3 2011, 11:30pm replied:

Yeah the dev's are well aware of their games being pirated. Thats why there is so much "unnecessary" DRM going into their games. No matter how hard they try with the DRM their games will still get pirated.

Its like the struggle between "real-world" weapon firepower and armor. The armor losses ever time. Its just a matter of time.

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Char8125
Char8125 Aug 15 2011, 10:17pm replied:

I read your comment and wanted to say something.

If Blizzard does hire a "L33T Uber Hakz0r" to shut down the websites and the Government gets inspired by Blizzard's actions and think "That is a prime idea, if there is no internet there wont be any breaches to our security.", and prior to that imagine if the Government shuts down the internet so that all their files are protected and all that jazz.

This leaves people having no internet.

No internet = No Diablo 3

:D

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De.Facto
De.Facto Aug 3 2011, 11:47pm says:

Good joke, one day - listen, one day there will be a guy; and - he will mod this game, too. Like every other game.

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lester2096
lester2096 Aug 4 2011, 1:17am says:

**** it im sticking to D2 with median XL

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kerndaddy
kerndaddy Aug 4 2011, 3:24pm says:

me and my wife have been looking forward to this game for freaking years. i have defended you blizzard until i was blue in the face in the past. but this no lan online only crap, with no mods, is the straw that broke the camels back. to hell with diablo 3, and to hell with you!

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Zombiestubble
Zombiestubble Aug 4 2011, 4:40pm says:

To quote Hamlet, in terms of our modern-day crisis:

To pirate or not to pirate, that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in mind to suffer
the slings and arrows of the poor choices made by Blizzard,
or to take arms against the sea of troubles
and by opposing end them? To mod, to create,
no more; and by a boycott to say we end
the heartache, and the thousand natural shocks.

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Exeon
Exeon Aug 4 2011, 6:44pm says:

Ouch. Not moddable? Only online? Good bye Tyrael.
*Slowly crosses Diablo III off my pre-order list*

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Urch
Urch Aug 4 2011, 8:27pm says: Online

It's amazing the level of response created by something that isn't actually important in any way. Rather interesting. From justifying piracy to how no community modding feature makes the company money grabbing monkey excrement, this has certainly been an entertaining read. Many thanks for keeping my night occupied while I listen to a new cd of Ska Classics (a genre of music for those who have never heard of it)
Nice translation of Hamlet btw Zombiestubble, very eloquent

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SASQUATCH_JERKY
SASQUATCH_JERKY Aug 5 2011, 2:36am says:

I know that the news that the game will not support mods sucks, also the auction house sounds pretty greedy, and the always online thing does disappoint me. The no LAN thing is no big deal to me, but I know it will make my friends mad. But if you don't play this because of these setbacks, then you might be missing out. (Unless its a piece of ****)

Though, if you just played D2 for the mods then I guess don't buy it. (also if you don't have internet.)

I have played the **** out of the first two, and loved the base experience. After awhile, I just got sick of it, so I played a couple mods. The mods were great, but for some reason it always made me want to just play vanilla Dialblo. Modding is big and great for Diablo, but the original gameplay is awesome too. A brand new Diablo is welcome to me.

Now the new Diablo is boasting features that are VERY different to the other two, but I trust the ACTUAL game developers to make it great.

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SASQUATCH_JERKY
SASQUATCH_JERKY Aug 5 2011, 2:38am says:

Continued

To not play it just because it doesn't support mods, or because it forces you to be on the internet; I find that sad as this will probably be a great game. I've bought crappier games at the same price, and if the game is as good as it looks, then I will love it. But to deprive yourself of a potential great game, due to the features that they put into their game, is dumb.
You probably all have bought an unmoddable game once, and loved it.

Yes, you can't mod it, but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
(unless you have no internet.)

Now the forcing of online play: personally I don't mind, but I can understand people that can get upset over this, but hey, it might be worth it to just live through the constant internet requirement.

For those who want to pirate it just to make them mad, because you think they are money hungry, you make me laugh. Yes the money lovers at the top add certain features to the game to make more money. But, the people who actually MAKE the game are more than likely gamers like you and me, and if not, then they are probably amazing artists or something. So the EFFORTS of the ACTUAL creators WILL be portrayed in the ACTUAL game. And I can trust that Blizzard will make a great game.
And if you doubt that, then wait for Reviews of the game from ACTUAL players, and not from some bull**** website that automatically gives big titles perfect scores.

But do what you want, you are the internet.

(Seriously, some of you guys need to grow up, to commit a crime over a damn game is ridiculous.)

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Kinrko
Kinrko Aug 5 2011, 9:53am says:

Why in the world would I waste my money on a game that doesn't allow me to modify it to my hearts content (seeing as the last two let me do WHATEVER THE HELL I WANTED), and that requires an active internet connection to play? If I want to play it, I'll steal it, just to spite them out of 60$. And then I'll tell everyone I know that Diablo III is a terrible game in retail and that pirating it makes it 100% better. It's not like any of my friends are going to say "OH HEYYY, BUT I NEED TEH ONLINES."

This is because, look what happened to Activision. They released a ****** game (MW2, around 6.5 million pirated copies), and now AlterIW exists, along with AlterOps. A similar thing happened to Assassin's Creed 2 and Ubisoft (although less towards the "we're doing this because we hate you" side, and more towards "Hey, look what we just did xD" side). Just because it's a pirated release, doesn't mean it won't have any online features. Most games just don't inspire the hackers in this world to go to that length to prove a point to the company. Yes, Blizzard, people will steal your product regardless of whether or not you find a way to protect it, it's human nature.

But...wouldn't you rather allow those of us that want to BUY it to actually have a REASON TO? Blizzard, you're acting like a small child who doesn't want to share his new toy, because you're afraid everyone else is going to break it or find some new way to play with it that's 100X funner than how you do. Blizzard, stop being such a ******, and realize that no matter how hard you try, the only way to avoid piracy is to NOT RELEASE THE GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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ikoNz
ikoNz Aug 5 2011, 1:56pm says:

well i have to say **** you blizzard.

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lilivo1013
lilivo1013 Aug 6 2011, 3:04am says:

im very dissapointed

blizzard what are you doing????????

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CarnageX
CarnageX Aug 6 2011, 12:05pm says:

Why are all the people who make sense get voted down and all the hosers get voted up? Too many kids under the age of 18 are in here i suppose...

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InternetIan
InternetIan Aug 6 2011, 3:41pm says:

Wow, really? Bollocks to Blizzard, I'll take my money somewhere else.

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Noremakk
Noremakk Aug 6 2011, 5:43pm says:

Selling their loot for gold and cash? "Cash," like, "real money?"

Thanks Korea, but I'd rather just play my game without having to pay for items.

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DarkElite99
DarkElite99 Aug 7 2011, 6:49am says:

I'm amazed at all the pro-piracy going on here. And I'm tired of the standard excuse "We don't like what they are doing, so it gives us the right to steal from them". It's like if someone was a smoker and saying "I like to smoke, but I don't like the tobacco companies or how they are run, so I'll steal this carton to get back at them" and since they see them as bad people, it justifies the act in their eyes, so they don't realize what a bad thing they actually did.

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Llandy
Llandy Aug 7 2011, 9:13am says:

Ok.

If people stopped pirating games, there would be no stupid "DRM's" holding us back.

I used to get pirated games back when i didn't have any online connection, from a friend. Now, I never pirate any games (and haven't done so in 10 years) but I'm very selective when buying a game. Companies like Ubisoft only hurt their customers. It's stupid that you have to be online just to play your game, but that's the way it is.

If you're pirating games just to make a point, then do so, but complaining about more and more game companies adding some sort of "DRM" is stupid. And piracy IS stealing. You're taking something without paying which weren't free in the first place, thus taking the money you would use on the game, away.

Instead, take a stand and decide if you want to buy the game or not. If not: Don't pirate. Don't buy the game.

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Batushka
Batushka Aug 7 2011, 3:22pm says:

Piracy is why there are some pretty crappy things afoot in the digital rights world.

Ever heard of ACTA, the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement? Look it up. It is VERY scary stuff. It's still a debate circus right now, but just because it's stupid doesn't mean it won't become law. Look at the US Patriot Act.

There are already ISPs blocking access to known pirate and warez sites. Piracy and illegal downloading was the Trojan Horse telecoms like Comcast, Time-Warner, and others used to cap service. We all know it's bull, but those who were doing it handed the telecoms the gun they shot all of us with. Law enforcement is paying attention more, too.

Whether one chooses to steal or not is a personal decision. It can be morally subjective such as stealing food when your starving vs. breaking into someone's house and stealing their stuff and thinking it's OK because they look like they have money.

My opinion is the two lowest forms of life are thieves and liars. I have no sympathy for them and hope all experience what they do to others. They deserve whatever karma or The Powers that Be drop on their heads.

As for Diablo 3, I'm not going to buy it. I don't like what Blizzard has done but I'm not going to use that to justify pirating a copy. That action has consequences beyond just me.

I wouldn't be surprised if the requirement of a full-time Internet connection is also part of a new DRM scheme that allows both identification of an unauthorized copy and a means to know where it is.... remember, the music industry found out the identity of down-loaders easily enough.

What's sad is if there IS such a thing and it ends up working, even if it just disables the pirated copies, every game company will likely follow suit. An entire world-wide community of modders may be at risk over actions of a few.

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Savci
Savci Aug 7 2011, 8:45pm replied:

The end result is the same whether you download the game or not, if you don't buy it. The difference? You have less fun. They do not gain anything from you not downloading the game because you won't buy it anytime soon, anyway.

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Batushka
Batushka Aug 7 2011, 3:29pm says:

@Trailhog 250- tell that to the people who got busted for illegal downloading of music and taken to court. tell that to napster and limewire and a host of other P2P sites.

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Savci
Savci Aug 7 2011, 8:43pm says:

Piracy is a way of showing off that you are not partly disappointed in a product/game.
It's the only weapon a player - a customer - has against the sovereignty of the developer - assuming that the player does indeed want to play the game.

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NOKI
NOKI Aug 8 2011, 8:17am says:

First it was BF3, now D3??? WHAT HAS THE WORLD COME TO?!

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John1337
John1337 Aug 8 2011, 11:01am says:

wow ... Diablo III died ... bye!

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elmachote
elmachote Aug 8 2011, 11:50am says:

Relax people, your are acting like little kids when Daddy takes away the candy. there are other games out there and probably much better one's just waiting to be played. Don't buy or play the game it is that simple, even if you people pirate the game you will still be playing the game and your will be showing your support for the game.

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Pvt.Grif
Pvt.Grif Aug 9 2011, 11:16am says:

I love how everyone whose gonna pirate this's comments are visible and nearly everyone against it is buried!

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Tizzer
Tizzer Aug 10 2011, 7:04am says:

It's a sad day , I admit I'm not a big fan of diablo (prefered other RPGs tbh) and nor am I a modder (just don't have the skills), but i have got soo much enjoyment out of classics I used to love modded , (for instance M&B mods were good and DoW FoK was epic): but the amount of pro poracy is despicable , I admit I have pirated a few books before now (out of print though only) and a handful of songs (but also very old but I'll still admit I am no white knight).
Removing Modding for this game is silly People are right that it will kill the game, it as has been said shortens the life drastically and as it annoys gamers so much is going to put a black mark on any word of mouth sales.
As for only able to play with net connection, thats just plain silly lots of people I know have a dodgy connection (being the back end of nowhere mine is terrible), well it's caused problems for me before so hell a game I was curios about just got shot down in flames
=[

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ResolveR
ResolveR Aug 10 2011, 7:21am says:

modder creativity cannot be stop with that "statement"

"For a variety of gameplay and security reasons, we will not be supporting bots or mods in Diablo III, and they'll be expressly prohibited by our terms of use for the game."

You Kiddinge me? YOU MAYBE MADE A GREAT GAME BUT MOD WILL MADE IT BETTER!!!

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niadly
niadly Aug 11 2011, 1:40am says:

IF being online is a requirement, i will not buy this game. its ridiculous to ask the consumers to pay full price for a game that you can only enjoy if you have a connection. what happens when (it happens a lot too) your internet goes out, or temporarily goes really low? does the game kick you off? this is why I didnt buy assassins creed for PC

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Dra6o0n
Dra6o0n Aug 11 2011, 12:50pm says:

You guys do realize that market systems or RMT, is stupid when it comes to games like these, because it will only invite gold farmers and the likely botting program to farm items off the game.

Blizzard is obviously wanting a piece of the RMT or microtransaction cake that's apparent in the game industry.

Even if you can't mod the game, you can hack it.

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EvanSakes
EvanSakes Aug 11 2011, 2:35pm says:

If there is to be no offline gameplay supported by the game, How are you to play on a pirated version? Thumbs me down all you want, I simply want to know how.

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Freke
Freke Aug 14 2011, 12:48pm says:

Oh look, Blizzard screwing themselves again.
First Starcraft 2, now this.
Well, I hope this surpases Spore in the largest number of pirated copies.
Oh, and lets not forget that the new BF3 engine is "too complex" for us.
God this industry is going into the ground.

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kazarr
kazarr Aug 14 2011, 7:43pm says:

I hope that everything related to Blizzard spontaneously combusts. I'm afraid that as it stands though, the only things that'll be exploding are their overfilled coffers, and the overloaded WoW servers.
Oh well. I'll have to be satisfied with simply boycotting Diablo 3.

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Dynamo128
Dynamo128 Aug 17 2011, 6:26am says:

well we all know Blizzard sucks anyway.

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Dynamo128
Dynamo128 Aug 17 2011, 6:38am says:

What all the anti-piracy guys do not get here is that Blizzard has been doing this since the beginning: Did all of you already forget the campaign against that WC2 freeware clone? Even EA is a lot better than Blizzard in this regard.

And because of this, Blizzard does NOT deserve our money! Please, if you are a supporter of the mod community, do NOT buy this game! Blizzard only wants to make money in the shittiest way possible: They don't give a **** about us. What they don't understand is that it's we, players and modders, who keep the money flowing for them. We must not let them get away with every ****** up mistake they make, we are the ones who really control the gaming scene.

Also they can try as hard as they want but they'll never stop piracy. I encourage everyone to NOT buy the game. pirate it if you want, but do not buy it.

And if Blizzard does something for the hacks..... I sincerely hope something similar to what happened to Sony will happen. This will teach Blizzard to stop sucking.

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freakX
freakX Aug 17 2011, 11:50am says:

Blizzard is just a bunch of people.. so someday somehow a new 'Archimedes' would say 'EUREKA' i knew how to make it offline or modded or whatever.. (even it takes my life time)

i heard there's a private server for WoW, so for those who like this series ..be patient! stop arguing about pirating.. remember, if u like d game BUY IT! i always thought that d pirated-game are like full-demos ;P so u don't lose money if u think d game were bad!

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Dynamo128
Dynamo128 Aug 18 2011, 7:01am replied:

This only applies for companies who deserve gamers' money. I agree with the "If you like it, buy it" idea behind piracy (and I've done so myself a few times, buying games I had already pirated because I wanted actual copies of them).

Point is, Blizzard does *NOT* deserve our money.

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