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What will happen to the modding community for the new Diablo game on release?

Posted by Henley on Aug 1st, 2011

News broke today about Diablo 3's brand new player controlled economy allowing players to sell their hard earned loot for gold and cash. This means a few things for players, the first is that there will be no "offline". The entire game will require an active internet connection to make sure that players are not gaming the system, and unfortunately this also means the death of modding for the IP.

Blizzard_FAQ wrote:For a variety of gameplay and security reasons, we will not be supporting bots or mods in Diablo III, and they'll be expressly prohibited by our terms of use for the game.


Expressly prohibited, not just unsupported but illegal by the Diablo 3 ToS. A sad day considering how big and active the Diablo 2 modding community still is. Will we still see new mods and updates for Diablo 2 in-spite of this announcement or will the players merge over to the game similar to the Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 modding scene?

Source: Pcgamer.com

I suppose it is good news for indie developers, with top indie games like Minecraft, Mount & Blade, Amnesia and most others, really focusing on their modding tools. Will be great to see awesome mods continue to come from the community for those games.

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Valherran
Valherran Aug 1 2011, 5:40am says:

That is the stupidest move on Blizzard's part. They turned Diablo III into an MMO as opposed to a single player RPG game with an arcade element that we rarely see anymore. This is what WoW is for, Diablo series should have stayed to it's original setting, shame on you Blizzard!

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ijat
ijat Aug 1 2011, 6:02am says:

REALLY DISAPPOINTED! better play starcraft 2!

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SolidFake
SolidFake Aug 1 2011, 6:13am says:

oh, okay
see you guys in Torchlight 2 then...

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theM3nace
theM3nace Aug 1 2011, 6:23am says:

Wow, dumbest thing they could do.
Goodbye diablo III

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TheUnbeholden
TheUnbeholden Aug 1 2011, 6:37am says:

I won't be buying it. No modding means useless to me, I probably might try the demo or play a friends copy for a little while. Meh.. Diablo 2 has been awesome I and many other people still play it and mod it.

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Windson7
Windson7 Aug 1 2011, 6:44am says:

It is probably because they will be porting it to consoles.
And we all know those things don't support mods.
But still... IMO it wouldn't have been much trouble to add a page or two of coding so the game can support modification.

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moci
moci Aug 1 2011, 7:17am replied:

Well I know at least one game that can be modded on the PS3 - Unreal Tournament 3.

I guess it all depends on the engine, consoles are really just dumbed down PC's with the same hardware (especially the hard drive disk).

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moci
moci Aug 1 2011, 7:15am says:

No mods is fine with me.

No offline mode however, thanks but no thanks Blizzard.
I'll play something else.

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natostanco
natostanco Aug 1 2011, 8:08am says:

diablo 3 = WoW 2

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KodY
KodY Aug 1 2011, 8:17am says:

I guess the "no mods" thing is partly because the whole game is forced online now. I'm no fan of it but otherwise I can see someone playing offline, somehow cheat and put major loot in his inventory, get back online again with the cheat deactivated and sell that stuff in the auction house.

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SabreXT
SabreXT Aug 1 2011, 10:42am replied:

But that will happen anyway, mods or not.

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myxale
myxale Aug 1 2011, 8:30am says:

That killed it for me!
No matter how fond I'm of Diablo, there is no way that I go along with that scheme.

I won't by a game that limits me to ALWAYS ONLINE.
I simply cannot do that!

As for the argument of preventing cheating, why not simply storing the Multiplayer Chars, on their server and the single player on the users HDD.

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Spr09
Spr09 Aug 1 2011, 8:32am says:

no offline? wtf is blizzard thinking?! next thing they'll do is announce it's f2p!

BTW: SC2 is overrated, any game where i gotta spend $60 THREE times is bulls***!

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Tatsur0
Tatsur0 Aug 1 2011, 9:48am replied:

Don't be retarded. SC2 = 3 games not 1 :P
Just because SC1 and BW let you play all three races doesn't take away from the fact that SC2 is nearly just as long, offers more side missions (which are quite enjoyable), the only game with achievements worth getting imho due to the challenges they pose, and awesome online play. I look forward to the next installments since the SP and MP are both incredible thus far.

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Computica
Computica Aug 4 2011, 3:40pm replied:

Sorry to disappoint you but I've been a SC fan since the first demo in 1997 and I've refused to play or buy SC2. One being the fact that I can't play offline LAN. Two Being the fact when the other 2 Expansions or other games with new single-player campaigns, units, maps, etc, come out I'm sure everyone will be paying full price for them as the price for the first hasn't yet gone down.

So if you think SC2 is 3 games and not one then times that by 3 and then you'll get 9 games. Pay over $200 on that. That's not not a business model I'm willing to support.

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Heaney
Heaney Aug 1 2011, 9:05am says:

No mods? No LAN? No bots?

No players.

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-HawkEye-
-HawkEye- Aug 1 2011, 9:18am says:

That is just a marketing trick !!! Diablo 3 wont support the mod's because of releasing the DLC packs, which will cost for about 10$. Do you know what amount of money they are going to receive because of that? Everything for their pocket... And that's what killing the other creative people that have good ideas for improving game-play or anything. Same with the Battlefield 3...

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MathijsRevora
MathijsRevora Aug 1 2011, 9:38am says:

Won't be buying it now.

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MorshuLoL
MorshuLoL Aug 1 2011, 9:49am says:

Son...
I am dissapoint.

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masternerdguy
masternerdguy Aug 1 2011, 9:50am says:

Money grubbing ******** is killing games.

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FullMetal358
FullMetal358 Aug 1 2011, 10:15am says:

Um i didn't play the other Diablo (1 or 2) but based on this news i am going to assume this was a stab in the back for people please correct me if i said this wrong

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MDMonster
MDMonster Aug 1 2011, 10:25am says:

I REALLY hope I.D. doesn't do stupid stuff like this too... if doom 4 or RAGE are like this, I think I will lose ALL hope for any of the games that come out. Its almost like these companies are trying to treat the PC community like we're incapable of this stuff...there basically treating us like we're console gamers.

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Jeffman12
Jeffman12 Aug 1 2011, 10:34am replied:

id's Tech engine has always been released for public use in the past, it's always a popular move, and it always benefits them as well as the community in the short and long run. The fine people at id are smart enough to know this, but at the same time, it doesn't really matter if the game has mod support right away, because id has always come through in the past. The great thing about Tech Engine games, you'll get mod support sooner or later.

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SabreXT
SabreXT Aug 1 2011, 10:47am replied:

Last I heard they were on the fence about it because Doom 3 mods didn't really take off as well as previous id games. Perhaps id could win over some PC gamer brownie points by announcing a mod support. All of their serious rivals don't have it.

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VGames
VGames Aug 1 2011, 10:31am says:

There trying to kill our PCs and reanimate them into consoles.

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Conchobhar
Conchobhar Aug 1 2011, 11:48am says:

Da da dun dun dun dun another one bites the dust.
Eh, no pre-order, no sale tills it dropped way down for me.
Another console orphan, multiplatform abomination.
Fail

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SinisterExaggerator
SinisterExaggerator Aug 1 2011, 12:00pm says:

for me DLC's are killing the next generation mod community based on this news and that of Battlefield's no mod support announcement

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Lazy6pyro
Lazy6pyro Aug 1 2011, 1:22pm replied:

The modding community has already started to shift towards indies. Just look at how IndieDB has exploded in the last 5 years. The larger projects (total conversions) will continue to push into the indie scene because they have the freedom and the control they're looking form.

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nbohr1more
nbohr1more Aug 4 2011, 2:06am replied:

The only thing that distinguishes "Indies" from classic small studios of yore is that there are now a number of Open Source engines to work from rather than build from scratch. The skill-set to become an Indie, however, is usually a natural progression from learning to MOD. Modding has a much lower entry barrier and fosters learning in ways that Encyclopedia sized books on traditional "from scratch" game development rarely do. If modding dies, so goes the cradle of new Indie developers. Now, if we talk about "The Dark Mod" (which I help promote), those guys (the programmers) probably would've been "Indie" if there were a suitable Open Source engine to use back then. Even there, TDM started with mappers (mission authors) and a crazy dream, the programmers came a little later.

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[Q]uik
[Q]uik Aug 1 2011, 12:02pm says:

this is ********, **** you blizzard, ruining a game like that =/

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syphon0202
syphon0202 Aug 1 2011, 12:21pm says:

Quick note: It is due to pirates that games (notably blizz games, SC2 and D3) have to have a constant internet connection now, meaning, for the most part, no lan. Thanks for that guys....

Even with this news I will still be buying Diablo 3, I am sure as a standalone game it will still be loads of fun, just like D2 and D1. That aside, I don't understand what the big deal about the item market is... It has always been there, if someone wanted to buy items with $$$, they always could and with ease. It was going to exist no matter what, so what is the big deal if Blizzard wants to cash in on the money that is already flowing?

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TheUnbeholden
TheUnbeholden Aug 1 2011, 10:04pm replied:

I think your statement is perhaps the most ignorant statement I've ever heard. Pirating is a minority, only about 2% of PC players pirate a game and it doesn't rule the possibility of them not buying it in the future, or their 'word of mouth' encouraging their friends to get the game. Diablo 3 move to a MMO with a system to pay for in game items.. with no modding allowed and expressly forbidden is merely Blizzard finally going the money milking route. Its their personal decision nothing more nothing less. They screwed up Star Craft 2 and now Diablo 3 is taking route. I knew something was wrong as soon as Diablo 3 started to look similar to World of Warcraft.

If you can show me a scientific study you can tell if its credible or not. if you know what to look for. How was the sample for the study selected? What hypothesis was tested? By what criterion? What is the confidence level?

A real scientific study will have all of this information.

So far, all of the research I've seen saying that piracy causes overwhelming harm to developers and publishers are studies that simply put these 800k against the 300k and said, "Look, how can we be making profit when 1/3 of our product was stolen?" None of these even bother to check what the intersection is, (id est, people who downloaded, but later bought product.) or whether these people were able to afford the copies they acquired illegally. Again, I'm not using that as an excuse for the action. Just pointing out that sales that could not have been made cannot be counted against sales lost.
Its a bogus claim that piracy is hurting sales.

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TheUnbeholden
TheUnbeholden Aug 1 2011, 10:25pm replied:

Same goes with this DRM which has been proven time and time again that it doesn't prevent piracy, it only prevents the people who actually buy game from playing it (the new DRM was cracked 2 weeks after its first release by the DarkCoder). Then theres these HD remakes with are shameless milking of cash, as well as DLC which are 1/3 of the price of a expansion but have 1/10 of the content. Its a sad time for the gaming industry (the movie industry doesn't even have it as bad, they are only suffering from remakes nothing else)

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SabreXT
SabreXT Aug 2 2011, 8:22am replied:

That depends on the DLC and the expansion packs you are compairing it to.

Fallout is a good example of DLC done right. Point Lookout in particular is amazing both in quality and value. Likewise, not all expansions were dawn of war dark crusade in terms of content and value. Yes, stuff like the Halo and CoD map packs are over priced milking, and on disc DLC is just appauling, but it's not all bad. If people stop buying it, it will get better.

Look at Dead Rising 2. Case Zero was a tiny stand alone prequel expansion for a tiny price. Sold tons. They tried it again with a higher price tag and it didn't do nearly as well. As a result Capcom was going to do the mini prequel expansion for Megaman Legends 3 before it got canceled.

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Jerkakame
Jerkakame Aug 1 2011, 1:34pm says:

I like when developers try to get more money but loses more then they already got.

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TheUnbeholden
TheUnbeholden Aug 1 2011, 10:30pm replied:

its quite ironic. Theres this old saying "The Greedy lose twice as much". Its because people pick on it, it's an age of information when people are well informed. This isn't the old days where you could get away with having a ignorant audience who buy everything. If we see something we don't like that is an immediate decision to not buy something, all it takes is one major fault.
And most people don't like greedy men. I know I don't.

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SabreXT
SabreXT Aug 2 2011, 8:23am replied:

I disagree. The ignorant exsist, but the problem is they aren't into Diablo or Skyrim, they are into GTA and Need for Speed.

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l0p
l0p Aug 1 2011, 1:38pm buried:

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Man who cares about mods for games like this, the only people that mod games are the people who dont give a **** about the actual game (and or carnt complete it) and would rather make their own stuff for it instead of playing the actual game, mods are okay for FPS and TPS games but i dont think that RTS and RPG games should be modifiable as they already have way more than enough in them.

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Lazy6pyro
Lazy6pyro Aug 1 2011, 1:48pm replied:

Sadly, you are ignoring the potential for using the platform as a basis for an entire new mod (total conversions). Take the CnC community for instance (an RTS franchise), with some of the older games, you can enjoy the traditional game, or hop into a WWII simulator, or a fantasy/sci-fi RTS or even a different take on modern warfare. Not only that, but there are plenty of forward and backward total conversions within the fiction of the franchise (ie: modders caring about the game, or at least the fiction that the franchise has brought).

I highly ecourage you to re-think your positions.

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l0p
l0p Aug 1 2011, 2:30pm buried:

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All the mods ive seen for games like that look all the same

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SоrataZ
SоrataZ Aug 1 2011, 3:19pm replied:

l0p, shut up, you are embarrasing us.

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flamingvipir
flamingvipir Aug 1 2011, 5:21pm replied:

@l0p:
Then 'da frick are you doing on MODDB?

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l0p
l0p Aug 1 2011, 8:42pm buried:

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Im just saying that mods shouldnt be for games that dont need em

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SabreXT
SabreXT Aug 2 2011, 8:28am replied:

Some of the best mods don't change the look of the game, but greatly effect the gameplay. Look at FoK for Dark Crusade, or Smod Redux that turns Half Life 2 into the matrix by adding bullet time and crazy weapons. The screens look the same, but the gameplay is massivly different.

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TrashCan-Man23
TrashCan-Man23 Aug 1 2011, 5:43pm replied:

I0p you have fun with paying $15 for a set of maps, for your latest call of duty game, you ******* jackass.

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l0p
l0p Aug 1 2011, 8:43pm replied:

CALL OF DUTY SUCKS ***!

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Velox
Velox Aug 1 2011, 1:53pm says:

I read today that there is a online duty to play the single player
this suckt so much that i wont buy it :/

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Frenzier
Frenzier Aug 1 2011, 1:56pm says:

If game developers keep this up, wich is taking a dump on players, soon there will be terrorism not for the sake of gods but for the sake of games.

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Stogie83
Stogie83 Aug 1 2011, 2:04pm says:

I bet there will be a offline working pirated D3 available soon after the release.
But anyway, FCK this ****, i gonna get Torchlight 2.

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Omar007
Omar007 Aug 1 2011, 2:17pm says:

No mods all around lately :S
Frostbite 2 and now this aswell...

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