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What will happen to the modding community for the new Diablo game on release?

Posted by Henley on Aug 1st, 2011

News broke today about Diablo 3's brand new player controlled economy allowing players to sell their hard earned loot for gold and cash. This means a few things for players, the first is that there will be no "offline". The entire game will require an active internet connection to make sure that players are not gaming the system, and unfortunately this also means the death of modding for the IP.

Blizzard_FAQ wrote:For a variety of gameplay and security reasons, we will not be supporting bots or mods in Diablo III, and they'll be expressly prohibited by our terms of use for the game.


Expressly prohibited, not just unsupported but illegal by the Diablo 3 ToS. A sad day considering how big and active the Diablo 2 modding community still is. Will we still see new mods and updates for Diablo 2 in-spite of this announcement or will the players merge over to the game similar to the Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 modding scene?

Source: Pcgamer.com

I suppose it is good news for indie developers, with top indie games like Minecraft, Mount & Blade, Amnesia and most others, really focusing on their modding tools. Will be great to see awesome mods continue to come from the community for those games.

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axebg
axebg Aug 1 2011, 12:35pm replied:

Look man, no one cares about piracy!!! I for example when I target a game ("The Witcher" for example), first download, play it, love it and buy it full version. But sometimes (Fallout 3 for example) - I buy it but still download it and play it "cracked", because I really, really hate MicrosoftGames or Xlive.dll or other online crap. That is that - I will never support stupid games !!! ("The hunted - Demon Forge" - I`ve tried it and wanted to puke, tell me how to buy this game on a blind fate????)

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Tatsur0
Tatsur0 Aug 1 2011, 12:40pm replied:

First you say you pirate to "demo" a game before you buy it (I completely understand and have stated such). But then you pirate games from a publisher you hate for whatever reason and whether or not you like the game decide against purchasing it and instead finish the game.

People seem to forget that you're hurting hard working developers along with the HATED Studio/Publisher. It's immature and it's still ******* theft. No excuse for that.

And you're wrong about piracy. We developers care, long time gamers who have seen the damage it's caused care, and people who aren't sticking their fingers in their ears and TROLOLOLOLOLOLing care.

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KnightofEquulei
KnightofEquulei Aug 1 2011, 12:53pm replied:

I think we can safely conclude that both Blizzard and pirates suck. Though pirating from a company such as Bethesda of Blizzard can be justified in my opinion. Those guys are rich and their games don't show the quality of the money they have. They're greedy and I support the Robin Hood "Steal from the rich and give to the poor" system.

/End topic.

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Tatsur0
Tatsur0 Aug 1 2011, 1:27pm replied:

You can't justify piracy. The companies have money but you're hurting developers and gamers. You are a bigger problem then these companies. End this isn't the Robin Hood system. If you're selfishly stealing for yourself. It's not food, water, or shelter. It's someones work and entertainment. It'd be like stealing your neighbors entertainment system because he can afford it and doesn't use it enough in your opinion. But because it's digital we ignore that and pretend we're not hurting others or ourselves when that's exactly what pirates are doing.

/Good luck ending topic.

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KnightofEquulei
KnightofEquulei Aug 1 2011, 4:05pm replied:

I don't need to end the topic. The subject has been debunked though. Blizzard are rich enough, so a few people pirating from them won't hurt them. So yes, it is the Robin Hood system. Why respect a company which doesn't care about its' fans?

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axebg
axebg Aug 1 2011, 1:03pm replied:

I`ve always respected developers ! As I said - I "Target" (look up gamplay footage in youtube, read previews, reviews and so on) my games. I`m on the same oppinion as you are and also I don`t have time to waste on games, that I hate or don`t care at all. So no point of downloading. Others - download, love, buy - simple as that. This is on very rare occasions btw, mostly I love and play old and loners games like - Thief 1,2, System Shock2, The witcher, Fallout Series, and so on. As you may know most of these games are cheap - so I know them and directly buy them for 10-5 Eu. But giving 60 Euro for a game which later will require more money like WoW... sorry won`t going to happen! The greedy Blizzard bastards can go F. themselfs. They should make WoW: Diablo 3 Expansion if they want so much online users...

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FlySpyGuy
FlySpyGuy Aug 1 2011, 1:57pm replied:

Pirating is becoming so popular BECAUSE game developers like Blizzard are trying to take away gamer's rights. Not because people are spoiled.

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axebg
axebg Aug 1 2011, 12:51pm replied:

Besides, what Blizzard won`t be able to afford 6-7th fontain in their lobby when you download the ugly bastard child of "Diablo" ??

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FlySpyGuy
FlySpyGuy Aug 1 2011, 1:30pm replied:

They are turning on their fans, trying to wring every dollar out of the game that they can. That's pretty messed up. I'm not going to be pirating this game, but I support pirates of anyone who tries to take control over a product away from the customer. Once I buy the program, I should be able to mod it, or use it offline if I bloody well feel like it.

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Tatsur0
Tatsur0 Aug 1 2011, 2:10pm replied:

If you've ever read any of those agreements you click "Agree" to you'd know you're not buying the content but access to interact and view it. No ones rights are being taken. Pirating is only making things even more difficult for users so you're basically saying you support creating the problems that led to your support in the first place. Also, people don't pirate for the reasons you stated they pirate because it's easy, free, and will use any excuse they can. I'm not saying the guys behind the game are angels but there are a lot of innocent developers and gamers getting screwed over by those you support.

Everyone stating piracy is ok due to the constraints - piracy leads to piracy. I mean come on :P You guys gotta stop pretending to be victims when it's really the actions of pirates who are creating the problems. If your were to "borrow" the game for a demo, find you like it. Buy it, if you don't like it uninstall and don't buy it.

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zacjor
zacjor Aug 1 2011, 3:57pm replied:

Even if it was more about buying it and doing whatever you want to it...it's turned into pirate it and do whatever you want to it.

If you want to honestly argue it isn't fair then either don't buy it and don't pirate it, or buy it.

So many peoples' method is simply pirating it and complaining about it. Seriously, if that is you're method nobody owes you jack ****.

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[Q]uik
[Q]uik Aug 5 2011, 11:06pm replied:

Nope, nobody owes us anything: But i see it this way: if they cannot provide me any way of testing it before i buy it, aka demo or trial: then why the hell should i buy the game? If we are not even worth that little (no blizzard will most likely not release an trial at launch.) then why, just WHY should companies be rewarded for it?

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[Q]uik
[Q]uik Aug 5 2011, 11:08pm replied:

and i'd also want to see how people are to pirate an online only game (aka wow without monthly fee)?

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Text_Fish
Text_Fish Aug 1 2011, 4:46pm replied:

If it weren't for the huge community support for Diablo 2 in the form of mods it would have died a death years ago and Blizzard would have a much harder time selling the very idea of Diablo III. It's basically a big "**** you" to a once loyal fanbase and if that fanbase want to retaliate then Piracy is very probably the only way they'll get noticed. Actions speak much louder than words.

That said, I won't be pirating this game because I don't personally feel passionate enough about it to break the law.

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Ixnari
Ixnari Aug 18 2011, 6:47pm replied:

Why the hell is everyone voting Tatsur0 down? He's right, you know. If you're buying the game, then you're basically telling them you're willing to pay to get shafted. But, on the other hand, if you're pirate the game, you're justifying their actions. If you don't like what they're doing then don't buy it, don't play it, don't pirate it.
Where is all this self-entitlement coming from, anyway?

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Spr09
Spr09 Aug 1 2011, 2:27pm replied:

Gamespot.com

look at the ******** they're adding too! they're not only making it a damn mmo, but they're setting the game up to make it f2p!

**** you blizzard!

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flamingvipir
flamingvipir Aug 1 2011, 5:26pm replied:

At the end of the day, piracy is an individual decision - if someone has resolved to pirate, I don't think anyone else's opinions are going to make much of a difference.

On a lighter note...
Dmblog.patricknoonan.com
trololo works here too.

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xalener
xalener Aug 1 2011, 6:10pm replied:

How are you gonna pirate it if online is REQUIRED to play the game?

Wouldn't that break it?

idk.

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TheUnabridgedGamer
TheUnabridgedGamer Aug 1 2011, 9:16pm replied:

I notice how everyone who's stated they're generally against piracy (like the people who weren't against the holding back of modding tools for Battlefield 3) are all getting voted down. How mature...

I frankly don't even play Blizzard games. This here isn't surprising at all. They've never really presented any game, that I've seen, that focuses on being very creative or aspiring to more than hoping that its replayable enough to keep people hooked. You're surprised they aren't allowing mod tools?

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sbseed
sbseed Aug 1 2011, 9:34pm replied:

totally agree with you... you know its a seriously sad statement on the part of developers when the customers are glad that pirates are around, just to be able to 'own' the game anymore.

and i hate to say this but thank god for pirates of games like this.

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Helmerdrake
Helmerdrake Aug 6 2011, 5:25pm replied:

Well they said thay diablo 3 requires a constant Internet connection.

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Icedecknight
Icedecknight Aug 1 2011, 4:04pm replied:

I added a forum post about this and all the updates. I think the couple people who aren't super worried but a little should check it out and throw their opinion at it. Also anyone want to start another petition? I mean graphic design is one thing but doing something that will give richer people a much bigger advantage? No no no no thank you.

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Icedecknight
Icedecknight Aug 3 2011, 5:56am replied:

Why do people always reply to first comment! Lol.

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[Q]uik
[Q]uik Aug 5 2011, 11:04pm replied:

they charge people for putting out the item, actually getting it sold and redeeming money.

but yes, this system can go to ******* hell.

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Lucífer
Lucífer Aug 6 2011, 5:35am replied:

This and then...
Escapistmagazine.com
...this.

Blizzard is coming off as too pretentious.

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Cryrid
Cryrid Aug 6 2011, 12:45pm replied:

People selling ingame items in Diablo? Unheard of! /s

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RSNoon
RSNoon Aug 15 2011, 3:37pm replied:

Lol @ this huge *** topic.

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Doomlord1992
Doomlord1992 Aug 1 2011, 4:09am says:

Thankfully I never even planned on buying it.

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VGames
VGames Aug 1 2011, 10:24am replied:

Same here.

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SabreXT
SabreXT Aug 1 2011, 10:35am replied:

Same. I did plan on buying Starcraft 2, but they region locked it. Since I couldn't play with friends, I didn't buy it.

Plus, Torchlight 2 is on the way.

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Kukicha
Kukicha Aug 1 2011, 6:43pm replied:

First they ruin SC2 with their "No LAN-Support" ******** and now D3 with an item-shop and a permanent internet-connection? Further, Activision support is also just a bunch of faggots - finding bad excuses for their own stupidy (I for myself had a problem that in CoD BO my weapon-clantag and weapon-emblem purchase gets resetet after 1-2 games and i always must repurchase it if i wanted to use it again, what did they tell me? my computer doesnt meet the requirements so they can not help me! At WHICH point had i talked about non-existing performance problems? i can run the game on nearly max. graphics without problems and have a problem with my gameplay and they can not help me because my computer doesnt meet the REQUIREMENTS!? seriously that are just very bad excuses for their incompetence)

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SоrataZ
SоrataZ Aug 1 2011, 1:02pm replied:

Same for me -_- This violates the gamer's bill of righ... oh wait Blizzard didnt sign it.

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FlySpyGuy
FlySpyGuy Aug 1 2011, 1:33pm replied: +5 votes     reply to comment
Dekaku
Dekaku Aug 1 2011, 6:57pm replied:

Actually i must say, that i planned to buy Diablo 3, if not for me then for my brother as a present for what-knows-i, since we had a blast with Diabl 2 and Expansion. But now i have to think about it twice — Do i really want to see this new Version of Diablo 3 on my brothers Desktop with all of the weird Design-choices (is it only me, or are those so called "Design-choices" todays "i dont give a **** about what you think, i am the developer/publisher and you just shut up") and completely crush all lingering affections i still have with the franchise? I must say, that it feels at the moment, that it would have been better if they just did not make a new Diablo at all (basically i believe that the whole genre lost most of its flair the moment they stopped using the sprites and started to implement the whole game in 3D - the only games which still uses those are browser games - and those does suck most of the time (at least i havent found a good one till now)

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Anomalous
Anomalous Aug 1 2011, 4:32am says:

I won't be buying this game.

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R3bornSh4dow
R3bornSh4dow Aug 1 2011, 4:34am says:

And another game which is not modable...
Stupid moneysuckers which call 'em self game dev's.. -.-

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edo3
edo3 Aug 1 2011, 4:50am says:

I am disappoint

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jangsy5
jangsy5 Aug 1 2011, 5:12am says:

D: no mod? NO LAN? NO SINGLE PLAYER, as in No Offline play? What happens if blizzard's servers are 'temporarily' unavailable, where do we turn to for an equivalent gaming, oh wait I still have my copy of diablo 2 set.

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Darthlex
Darthlex Aug 1 2011, 5:25am replied:

Wow.. That caught me off-guard .. Screw the fact that the D2 community is still a somewhat active modding community - If anyone should know a game is kept alive by mods, it's ******* blizzard.

Diablo 2 may have mods, but it's NOTHING compared to Warcraft 3, or Starcraft 1/2.

By dieties .. This is so disappointing.

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SabreXT
SabreXT Aug 1 2011, 10:38am replied:

Im no Diablo fan, but wasn't the main appeal of that game LAN play? Removing LAN seems to be a bit like removing the crashes from Burnout.

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x0oo0
x0oo0 Aug 1 2011, 5:02pm replied:

Actually it wasn't, it was online multiplayer... /plays diablo 2 daily

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SPTX
SPTX Aug 1 2011, 5:14am says:

Blizzard is a cancer to gaming since they fired up THE creative team.

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Xylemon
Xylemon Aug 1 2011, 5:17am says:

These game companies just don't get it. Why even put zero effort into mod support? Someone is doing your work for free. I mean new custom content that Blizzard or Activison didn't need to spend money on, by fans who gave their sweet free time to make that new content. Is this what all these "New Age Games" going to be like? If so I'm not going to stand for it. Even if I'm not buying Battlefield 3 or Diablo 3, modding is important and has changed the game industry.

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NereidAlbel
NereidAlbel Aug 1 2011, 6:55am replied:

When there is authorized and ENCOURAGED sale of in-game items for IRL $$$, modding is probably not something to encourage. However, in the case of BF3, that's just cruddy developers saying "well, we THINK it's too complicated for you guys, so we won't even let you try!"

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Highmist
Highmist Aug 1 2011, 10:32am replied:

Its not that the BF3 tools are complicated, but they set them up so retardedly that it would take us forever to use them, so they just give us the "too complicated" thing.
Anyway, I'm disappointed in this. Diablo 3 is now something of a cash grab, which is something I did not expect from blizz.

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Spr09
Spr09 Aug 3 2011, 11:45am replied:

after the SC2 three part game, how did you not see something like this coming? diablo 2 was their last good game (war3 was okay, i didnt really care for it though) but they gave into idiotism.

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FlySpyGuy
FlySpyGuy Aug 1 2011, 1:37pm replied:

No. Modding brings in more players. It always has. I wouldn't have played Starcraft if it weren't for mods. I wouldn't have continued playing it for 10 years, and telling all my friends about it for 10 years if it hadn't been for mods. I purchased Crysis for the mods (Mech Warrior Living Legends to be specific). There are plenty of games that have mods AND purchasable items.

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NereidAlbel
NereidAlbel Aug 1 2011, 8:37pm replied:

Purchasable items from some developer's store is a LOT different from cash transactions with other players built into the game's code. And you know, to be honest, there are a LOT of people I wouldn't want messing around with that code.

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SDKD
SDKD Aug 1 2011, 5:17am says:

WTF IS WRONG WITH DEVELEPORS THESE DAYS!?

+25 votes     reply to comment
ENCLAVE99
ENCLAVE99 Aug 1 2011, 5:24am says:

This is bad news for the modding community as a whole. What we have seen in the past few months is gaming series that had great modding ability and support cut down by companys who want more control over how we play our games. EA Dice for example cut mod support for BF3 which is likley to kill off the BF series and make more people buy MW3 later this year. But Blizzard has taken this further by saying that modding wont be supported but illegal too. This proves that game companys are killing the PC and mod communitys as they want us to play the games we buy thier way. Blizzard may be doing this to try to combat piracy but there is less methods of hinderance to the community than to make modding illegal. Overall Blizzard is following suite with the desions that other companys made to drop mods for thier games so therfore we may see much less people playing Diablo 3 than we expected.

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