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Oct 6 2012, 2:12pm Anchor
Sordrai wrote:every american is gonna ignore this for sure

Lies, I am a American. Also, I am not sure why alot of our Movies have Russian villains,  I guess some people are still angry at Russia. Also, in some of our movies and games, the American Government ate the bad guys (Kinda).

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Feb 2 2013, 5:44am Anchor

Mainly because russia is under a dictatorship, is the most powerful country in the world and keeps its intelligent citizens silent by torture and sending them to jail for no reason

Feb 2 2013, 7:16am Anchor
lagiacruswhite wrote:Mainly because russia is under a dictatorship, is the most powerful country in the world and keeps its intelligent citizens silent by torture and sending them to jail for no reason


What are you smoking? Whatever it is, it must be good. Take me to your dealer!

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Feb 2 2013, 10:14am Anchor
TerranAmbassador wrote:
lagiacruswhite wrote:Mainly because russia is under a dictatorship, is the most powerful country in the world and keeps its intelligent citizens silent by torture and sending them to jail for no reason


What are you smoking? Whatever it is, it must be good. Take me to your dealer!


maybe you should stop smoking, putin is elected in AGAIN and AGAIN even though no one with any sense votes for him, all the parties are run by him and the last time someone opposed him he was jailed indeffinetly for 'stealing oil' also, have you heard about pussy riot? putin is just stalin all over again.

Feb 2 2013, 11:01am Anchor

I think they're just jealous of their awesome accent. Female russain accents are particularly hot... But in all seriousness, yeah, it's probably the cold war... or by now, it's a cliche.

Feb 17 2013, 12:49am Anchor

Well, Looks like we all know what makes Russians such a popular candidate for being antagonists. Basically it is: American Cold War propaganda, stereotypes(influenced by the cold war), Russia's history of communism and dictatorship, cool accents, and it is just plain easy to use cookie cutter villains.

So, that is why. Now, what are we going to do about it? The only real answer is better writing, and that is not much of an answer to the deep intellectual laziness inherent with the use of stereotypes.

Feb 17 2013, 5:25am Anchor
Fragvergnugen wrote:
Aperture.inc wrote:It's been over 20  years after the cold war but AMERICA still want to make Russians the main villain's in movies and games.

Examples, please!

Maybe you could make a website about Evil Russians™ in movies and video games.
Start with the James Bond movies.


Example: Cod Black ops

Mar 6 2013, 10:19pm Anchor

Cliche enemies in games always seem to be enemies from previous wars American took part in, that's why for every Russian soldier there's always a German evil scientist...

May 1 2013, 3:52am Anchor
  • Because Russians are fricken awesome. 
  • We generally glorify the 80's in videogames, as it is kind of the breeding ground of games as we know them today. 
  • The cold war saw a lot of technological advancement. The concept is an interesting one to explore since it was closer to  technology of today than say nazi germany, which is more often featured in zombie games recently. 
  • A lot of game developers were around for the cold war. 
  • We (The US) identify more closely with Russia than with asia or the middle east, so stories featuring Russians often can have more depth without having to explain as much. 
  • Everyone secretly wants to go to russia. No I don't care what you say, you really want to go.
  • Phage therapy
May 1 2013, 4:24am Anchor

"i doubt thats the reason. A lot of nations are Bad*** but not many of them are villains. And i think French make very good villains. No offense France !"

We are too weak to be villains. And we drink too much wine...

May 1 2013, 5:51am Anchor

You're forgetting the fact that French have a history of kicking ass and taking names, the Napoleonic Wars being just the most famous example. The French can more than be villains (and were considered to be so several times in the past).

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May 1 2013, 5:59am Anchor

There's a great movie called "Odinochnoye plavanye" (or, "Solo Mission") which I saw a few years ago. Essentially, imagine a stereotypical action movie, but with a crazed rogue American general threatening the world with nuclear destruction. The only ones who can stop him - SPETZNAZ

 

May 1 2013, 4:01pm Anchor

That's fantastic! I must see this movie.

May 2 2013, 5:03am Anchor

I want to see this movie! :)

May 3 2013, 5:23am Anchor

Is that all Russians are bad guys in movies and games? Sure?

May 3 2013, 7:00am Anchor

I dont speak english, so forgive if i am not too clear. (But i try).

Firstly, take in account this: When i say EE.UU, Soviet Union/ Russia i dont refer to all the people in there (the citizens who lives in those countries) i refer to they goverments and his politics methods mostly.

The question "Why russians are the bad guys ?"...In what? Movies? Games? Books?...
To be more clear, may be the question should be "Why russians are the bad guys in movies, games and books from EE.UU (Mostly)?"
And the more important of all answers that anybody can make, is because the Cold War.

Cold War was a conflict between, lets say, two ideology / economic models.

Both countries create a tremendous system of propaganda to keep the people "thinking" in one way, "the correct way". The industries, politics, all kind of media, music, etc, etc, etc was used in order to "win" that war.

Sadly for the rest of the world, who doesnt have anything to do with EE.UU OR Soviet Union ideologist, we were forced to become part of the great battlefield scenario.(by being the scenario)

Then, The Wall fall and Soviet Union disappear (not pacefully) and EE.UU with his Capitalism prevails. But they doesnt "destroy" his propaganda system, never do that. They just continue with the process of making people "think" of "believe" what they need.

So, why the russians are the bad guys?, probably the answer is because you mostly see american (or English) movies, play his videogames or videogames based/inspired on them, etc. etc.

But the true is, because EE.UU (with his position of power) continue with his classics methods. I have seen "old" movies from Russia, and they always win in
them too. But doenst matter from what country the movie is, 95% of the time is just has some kind of politics or comercial propaganda in them. Yes, that is one of the reasons why exist bad and irreal movies, boring videogames, etc.

The "winner formula" is always the same, doesnt matter what country we are talking about, "The enemy is always the worst of the worst in the world, we are the most honest, pure, brave, etc, and if you dont are agree with us, you are against us." and this simple fact, cost millions of lifes, not only in the cold war...from the ancient times to modern.

In the USA version of reality, they fight against all the evil people in the world in all times, and thats the reason why they need some kind of "flag" or "name" to identify the enemy, a title. So for example, today if you dont agree with the Irak War automatically you could be a Pro-Terrorist or been accused of being against the "peace", "democracy", "the free-world" or whatever they suppose to represent.

Dont take my words in a bad sense, if Soviet Union/ Russia had won the Cold War this question would be "Why the Americans are the bad Guys?". Sadly the Question change but the answer, Not.

So folks, dont worry, tomorrow the world will see another "bad guy"...it could be you, it could be me, it could be.....ok, i make my point. :)

May 9 2013, 10:58am Anchor

@Nedraed
That heli does not even looks like a Harke or a Hip. Is the fastroping guy holding a MP-40? Lol.

Edited by: Reborn:X

May 9 2013, 1:06pm Anchor

I like the way his finger is on the triger even though he's holding the gun like an ape. Aw yeah, 80's style poster art.

May 13 2013, 11:32am Anchor

In the same way you can ask why Africa or Bangladesh continues poor...
Look , any war, cold or heat as any colony (yes the colonies still exists, don't let the names dazzle you) are simply products.
Everything is see as a product to buy cheap and sell expensive so the bad guys needs to exists and anyone could fit in that role. It's not difficult to realize that where the caos is, the bussiness are present in any form. The point is, if you really don't know why the bolsheviks are the bad guys it could be a good idea to start to read history and economics. Don't take me wrong since to get some culture avoid the humans becomes worst predators thant they actually are.
Finally, the amigo masquedios is very close to the whole idea.
Oh, one more thing, I don't care if I'm not politically correct :tired:
Cheers folks :wub:

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