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Shadow-Marine	Apr 18 2009, 2:41am Anchor
Shadow-Marine	i Love the origonal UT game and the origonal Unreal and i have allways wanted to play it on the psp Could We??? The specs are allright PSP Specs CPU: PSP CPU (System clock frequency 1~333MHz) Main Memory: 32MB Embedded DRAM: 4MB UT requirements (Minimum) CPU: 200 MHz RAM: 32MB Disk Space: 605MB So the requirements arent very stable but i know i have been able to crank down a game to play on a really low system and who needs great graphics when there gonna be wasted on a tiny screen Theres one downfall to this idea the unreal engine would be very hard to port to the psp it would be awsome so could anyone do it???
_DiamonD_ Gotta' love em' Trolls.	Apr 18 2009, 3:20am Anchor
_DiamonD_ Gotta' love em' Trolls.	I've seen people run FF7 on the PSP. UT99 doesn't really use that much to run. Heck, I ran it fine on my ancient Windows 95.
Shadow-Marine	Apr 18 2009, 11:32pm Anchor
Shadow-Marine	alot of the time they say the minimum but its not i know some one who got ut2004 working below a 730MHz processor
frosty-theaussie Sonny Jim	Apr 27 2009, 10:05pm Anchor
frosty-theaussie Sonny Jim	kinda hard to port it without the source code --
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	Apr 27 2009, 10:10pm Anchor
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	I swear I've seen you post this several times elsewhere?
Shadow-Marine	Apr 28 2009, 1:49am Anchor
Shadow-Marine	ambershee wrote:I swear I've seen you post this several times elsewhere? no i havnt really been active up till a couple of months ago and this is definitly the first time that ive posted this up i think i only have like 3 threads ive ever made frosty-theaussie wrote:kinda hard to port it without the source code did epic games ever realease a source engine???
Sigma Resident Stepmania Freak :D	Apr 28 2009, 2:10am Anchor
Sigma Resident Stepmania Freak :D	Shadow-Marine wrote: ambershee wrote:I swear I've seen you post this several times elsewhere? no i havnt really been active up till a couple of months ago and this is definitly the first time that ive posted this up i think i only have like 3 threads ive ever made frosty-theaussie wrote:kinda hard to port it without the source code did epic games ever realease a source engine??? you mean source code to the engine :p and no they didn't they only released the uscript source to the game -- Looking for musicians for unannounced project, PM me for further details
leilei The person who doesn't like anything	Apr 29 2009, 1:24am Anchor
leilei The person who doesn't like anything	Shadow-Marine wrote:i know some one who got ut2004 working below a 730MHz processor UT2004 can "work" on a 233MHz Pentium II, doesn't necessarily mean it'll be playable, unless you have a Geforce2 or Radeon9x00 in there. The 'ports' of games you see for PSP i.e. halo psp are practically bootleg demakes on other engines. Also the PSP uses a different CPU architecture so the cycles-per-clock on the frequency is not matching with the x86 processors you are familiar with. Edited by: leilei
notoriginal Modeller	Apr 29 2009, 2:39am Anchor
notoriginal Modeller	I'd say read up on Solitude, or ask them to tell you how they are doing it. I think they are using a quake engine that has been ported to the psp. So you could also try to recreate UT99 from the ground up and use that quake engine to build UT99 on a psp. But you should not call it unreal tournament for legal issues. -- - Mathiasverboven.net - Moddb.com
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	Apr 29 2009, 10:55am Anchor
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	I'm still baffled as to how you'd control the game with so few buttons.
notoriginal Modeller	Apr 29 2009, 12:07pm Anchor
notoriginal Modeller	There are plenty, Solitude manages and that's also a shooter. -- - Mathiasverboven.net - Moddb.com
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	Apr 29 2009, 12:32pm Anchor
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	Neither solitude nor Halo have multiple fire modes, and complex movement, nor a heavy reliance on z-axis gameplay. How on earth are you supposed to, as an example, use the rocket launcher, when it can a) fire normally, b) load and fire up to three rockets in a broad arc, c) load and fire up to three rockets in a spiral, or d) load and fire up to three grenades? I also dread to think how you're supposed to deal with things like shock combos.
notoriginal Modeller	Apr 29 2009, 12:54pm Anchor
notoriginal Modeller	A) press fire button (x button) B) press fire button longer to load all three, release button to fire in an arc (x button) C) press fire button longer to load all three, release and press other button to fire in spiral (x button then square button) D) press fire button longer to load all three, release and press other button to fire grenades (x button then circle button) So as you can see, the psp has plenty of buttons to manage stuff like that. They might not look natural to you, as a pc gamer. But why shouldn't it work? If someone would ever try to make it and come to the conclusion it doesn't work out at first. They can always compromise and not include some features at first. Edited by: notoriginal -- - Mathiasverboven.net - Moddb.com
Gibberstein Generic Coder Type Thing	Apr 29 2009, 3:58pm Anchor
Gibberstein Generic Coder Type Thing	Won't you need one of those other buttons for jumping? Also, speaking of jumping, good luck making hammer/rocket jumping work elegantly without a mouse, although that's not unique to trying to do it on a PSP. It sucks on fullsize consoles too. -- "lets say Portal is a puzzle game, so its a rehash of Tetris" - Wraiyth points out the craziness of stereotyping games by their genre
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	Apr 29 2009, 4:54pm Anchor
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	You also need to crouch, switch weapons, dodge. Six buttons isn't enough
notoriginal Modeller	Apr 30 2009, 2:39am Anchor
notoriginal Modeller	Yes it will be hard mapping every movement. But like I said, you can just not implement certain features to make it much easier. I'm not a fan of shooters on consoles or handhelds, by far. But I do support someone that would try to create something like that. -- - Mathiasverboven.net - Moddb.com
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	Apr 30 2009, 3:22am Anchor
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks	Well, for starters, you'd have to drop the ability to look up and down. You'd have to have one button to annoyingly cycle through all the weapons (I have the sniper rifle, but now I want the rocket launcher - tap,tap,tap,tap,tap,tap,tap,tap,tap). Now that you can't look up and down, you'd have to remove weapons with lobbed projectiles, since they can no longer be controlled (Biogun, Flak Cannon, Rocket Grenades). You'd have to remove dodging. For all it's worth, you might as well just make a new shooter, because it won't port well, and you'd have to write it from scratch anyway.
notoriginal Modeller	Apr 30 2009, 4:39am Anchor
notoriginal Modeller	Yes most likely it wont port just like that. But in any case, it is possible and that was the question. There is no point in creating a new game, he is not interested in a new game. He wants something like UT99 on the psp. If he wants to try it, although it most likely would fail because by taking out features it won't feel like UT, then I say go for it. My initial keymapping would be - left and right arrow keys: switch weapons - down arrow key: jump (?) - analog stick: rotate view - left upper corner tab: move forward - right upper corner tab: move backwards - left + right upper corner tab: jump (?) - x button fire weapon - o button fire alternate this leaves out square, triangle and up arrow key. Although it might not make sense to you, and perhaps this mapping sucks because I can't test it out, it does not matter. The point is that is it possible, most probably with restrictions. Creating a new game would be a better solution indeed. -- - Mathiasverboven.net - Moddb.com
Shadow-Marine	Apr 30 2009, 9:12am Anchor
Shadow-Marine	Sigma wrote: Shadow-Marine wrote: ambershee wrote:I swear I've seen you post this several times elsewhere? no i havnt really been active up till a couple of months ago and this is definitly the first time that ive posted this up i think i only have like 3 threads ive ever made frosty-theaussie wrote:kinda hard to port it without the source code did epic games ever realease a source engine??? you mean source code to the engine :p and no they didn't they only released the uscript source to the game woops to much half life 2 lol DeathCaller wrote:I'd say read up on Solitude, or ask them to tell you how they are doing it. I think they are using a quake engine that has been ported to the psp. So you could also try to recreate UT99 from the ground up and use that quake engine to build UT99 on a psp. But you should not call it unreal tournament for legal issues. i have been folowing them they have been using the quake z engine (looks awsome by the way) this is where i got the thought ambershee wrote:Well, for starters, you'd have to drop the ability to look up and down. You'd have to have one button to annoyingly cycle through all the weapons (I have the sniper rifle, but now I want the rocket launcher - tap,tap,tap,tap,tap,tap,tap,tap,tap). Now that you can't look up and down, you'd have to remove weapons with lobbed projectiles, since they can no longer be controlled (Biogun, Flak Cannon, Rocket Grenades). You'd have to remove dodging. For all it's worth, you might as well just make a new shooter, because it won't port well, and you'd have to write it from scratch anyway. youve never played coded arms have you or even quake on the psp i am pretty damn fast in quake on the psp (dosent beat pc though) remember just a thought not a project DeathCaller wrote:Yes most likely it wont port just like that. But in any case, it is possible and that was the question. There is no point in creating a new game, he is not interested in a new game. He wants something like UT99 on the psp. If he wants to try it, although it most likely would fail because by taking out features it won't feel like UT, then I say go for it. My initial keymapping would be - left and right arrow keys: switch weapons - down arrow key: jump (?) - analog stick: rotate view - left upper corner tab: move forward - right upper corner tab: move backwards - left + right upper corner tab: jump (?) - x button fire weapon - o button fire alternate this leaves out square, triangle and up arrow key. Although it might not make sense to you, and perhaps this mapping sucks because I can't test it out, it does not matter. The point is that is it possible, most probably with restrictions. Creating a new game would be a better solution indeed. yeah your right cant have ut without trick jumping or faster pace just a thought not a project
leilei The person who doesn't like anything	Apr 30 2009, 1:59pm Anchor
leilei The person who doesn't like anything	DeathCaller wrote: So you could also try to recreate UT99 from the ground up and use that quake engine to build UT99 on a psp. But you should not call it unreal tournament for legal issues. no, likenesses are copyright issues as well. You can't directly rip off UT99 down to the art and sound and call it REAL CHAMPIONS or so. Duplicating copyrighted assets is a nono at any cost, plus *does it really hurt to be original*? (See: OpenArena, where the game code is pretty much Q3 as provided in the GPL source package, but everything else is made from scratch and also under GPL, over loosely inspired but non-derivative designs) And yes, i am aware of Solitude, and yes, Quake is capable of Unreal-like gameplay with secondary triggers, though the dodging thing would be hard to do, as well as crouching (having to modify BSP for a different hull size for the crouched player). Controlling wouldn't be feasible on a handheld. FPS on handhelds is like s&m without the pleasure. Edited by: leilei
notoriginal Modeller	Apr 30 2009, 3:19pm Anchor
notoriginal Modeller	This thread is not about being original, this thread is about asking someone if they know of or could port ut99 to the psp. -- - Mathiasverboven.net - Moddb.com
leilei The person who doesn't like anything	May 1 2009, 2:24am Anchor
leilei The person who doesn't like anything	But why? What would be the point to take the big risk in copyright infringement? Showing it off in ghettos and schools YO I GOT UT ON MY PSP I AM COOOPUNCH IN FACE YOU DORK you need to get JUICED really there is no point to showcase the copy and paste abilities Edited by: leilei
notoriginal Modeller	May 1 2009, 3:51am Anchor
notoriginal Modeller	If it was just copy paste, why have this thread? The title of this thread sais it all "UT99 for psp" what did you expect? If you want originality, find it somewhere else. Don't hijack this thread and just deal with the fact that he wants to play ut on his psp, for whatever reasons. -- - Mathiasverboven.net - Moddb.com
Shadow-Marine	May 4 2009, 12:20am Anchor
Shadow-Marine	leilei wrote:But why? What would be the point to take the big risk in copyright infringement? Showing it off in ghettos and schools YO I GOT UT ON MY PSP I AM COOOPUNCH IN FACE YOU DORK you need to get JUICED really there is no point to showcase the copy and paste abilities now who said i actually wanted to do this i was asking if it was possible because then i could get into coding and porting and find out what the PSP's bounders are i never said i could run or if i even wanted it to run im more of a quake person and almost evryone in my whole school dosent no what ut or quake is who give you the right to come into MY thread and make a fight out of the whole idea and going off topic
Matuka628 I defy the law's of gravity.	Jul 14 2009, 8:16am Anchor
Matuka628 I defy the law's of gravity.	The idea of UT1999 on a PSP is very plausible, especially since it's possible to run firmware on the PSP to use your PSP screen as a monitor for your PC... However you require your PSP to be linked up to a USB port on the PC via cable... I would first off start by using the Quake engine and heavily modifying it to be more like the Unreal engine, after that, you'll want to get the key-map down, which'll be hard, but I believe the PSP has a <^> pad on it too?(Anyone get what Im saying), if you triple tap on one of them you dodge to the direction specified... After that you'll want to crouch, again, this can be done by that keypad I mentioned... Just using the down arrow(?), I believe Call-Of-Duty 4/WaW on the Nintendo DS had this, so it may be possible to detect the double/triple tap of the arrows in the source code... Also the best thing about using the Quake Engine is that ID-TECH3 is currently free for indie's to use(Atleast that's what wikipedia says!) En.wikipedia.org The idea seems simple and can be exucuted perfectly, aslong as the team(if any) manage to follow some simple rules that are not optional when doing indie game dev... See more about retaing a great indie team @ Devstorm.phpbbnew.com -- Im burning through the sky, 2000º! That's call me Mr.Farenheight, I travel at the speed of light.