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Apr 30 2009, 7:11pm Anchor | |
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deathbal101 wrote:
Midnitte wrote:
Jyffeh wrote:AIDS is a bigger threat than this.
The regular flu is a bigger threat, its really just sensationalism. The regular flu adapts every year to combat our anti-virals and kills more people. So far the swine flu has killed under 200 people, the flu kills atleast triple that. Yes but how long does it take for the flu to kill 600 people. Its taken swine flu only a few days. Confirmed Swine Flu deaths are about 8, potentially as high as 10. The virus has been active for far more time than the media has been atop the story, and deaths in the previous three days are one. Both Swine Flu and "generic" influenza appear to have similar time between infection, development of symptoms, and death (1-2 days then 3-5 days). Even the most presumptive numbers for Swine Flu related (below 200) deaths reported are equivalent to a week of influenza related death (CDC's numbers). Still, there is a reasonable concern (not saying this reasonable concern is projected by the media, though) to halt a separate, less predictable strain of virus which recently emerged. I would rather have the minimal amount of potentially harmful/fatal pathogens roaming our world. |
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| Apr 30 2009, 8:02pm Anchor | ||
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ambershee wrote:WHO - We're running out of funding, so let's get into the media spotlight and rake what we can out of this, as much as possible.
The bubonic plague, smallpox. Those were pandemics. This is a few isolated cases of nasty man-pig-flu. Imagine if it spread through bears too O_O ...
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Apr 30 2009, 9:09pm Anchor | |
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It's time for a swine flu mod on L4D. Story: -- Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats. |
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May 1 2009, 7:39am Anchor | |
| May 1 2009, 9:37am Anchor | ||
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deathbal101 wrote:Uh... Right.
That could be a halfassed joke mod. Don't underestimate halfassed joke mods ... its easier to hook people with a joke than it is with a plot ... PVK is kinda an example of that ... -- My links:|Xfire|Mars Wars 3|Steam|
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May 1 2009, 11:27am Anchor | |
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Erm, I don't know what you're smoking. PVK isn't a half-assed mod. Something that uses premade content without any means of actual workload is considered a "half-assed" mod. |
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| May 1 2009, 12:25pm Anchor | ||
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The swine flu sounds horrible when you have it, so much pain. Though more people in the United States, mostly children, and Canada are getting it now... There are 8 cases in one of the cities over here and there are 56 additional unconfirmed, again, children to young adults... This is only in my city alone... Edited by: w1ngzer0 |
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| May 11 2009, 9:25pm Anchor | ||
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OFF TOPICED! |
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May 12 2009, 7:16am Anchor | |
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May 12 2009, 7:20am Anchor | |
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the first case in South Africa was reportedly just outside our town, which is fairly unlucky given how big the country is in typical sa style though, noone really seems to care Edited by: Koroshiya_Ichi |
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May 14 2009, 6:07am Anchor | |
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It is being way over covered in Australia. The media has made it seem like the next Plague or Spanish Influenza. There has only been 1 confirmed case of swine flu in Australia but the carrier of the disease was not harmed at all and has recovered fully. We should focus on removing the big killers rather than run with our heads between our legs over something that has only had relatively minor concern. Don't know about you Americans but in Australia it is nothing at all. We should put the money in effort into stopping AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria. -- Can you tell me doctor why I still can't get to sleep? |
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| May 14 2009, 5:23pm Anchor | ||
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_DiamonD_ wrote:Erm, I don't know what you're smoking. PVK isn't a half-assed mod. Something that uses premade content without any means of actual workload is considered a "half-assed" mod.
I said half-assed joke mod ... well ... its more better described as the "wtf" factor PVK kinda has this "wtf?" atmosphere around it that lures people in ... not because of the quality of content (although thats what gets them to continue playing it), but because there are pirates, vikings and knights fighting each other ... a weird theme that turned out to be a good mod due to quality time and effort ... People shouldn't underestimate the "wtf" factor in mods ... For example, This mod is on the front page animation and people enjoy it ... the only reason it caught their eye however is because it has that "wtf" factor Also i have swine flu ... cuz i have the sniffles Edited by: Assaultman67 |
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| May 14 2009, 5:26pm Anchor | ||
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I'm pretty sure i had it about 2 or 3 weeks ago. It's not dangerous unless you're an infant or old as dirt. (just like all the other influenza) Edited by: ngs616 |
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May 17 2009, 4:36pm Anchor | |
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Indeed. If you are very young or old you should get influenza vaccinations. But otherwise you should not be worried at all, it is very rarely harmful just like common flus. -- Can you tell me doctor why I still can't get to sleep? |
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May 18 2009, 10:06pm Anchor | |
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Swine flu has been renamed to H1N1 to avoid confusion because it has nothing to do with pigs/swine. Also, it has been rumored that this flu was created in a laboratory and purposely exposed, Mexico is just a social target (since it is known for some *ahem* strange events) and so they (the government) decided to put all of its blame on Mexico for 'spreading' this possible epidemic. Supposedly the government is targeting vacation spots all over the globe and this could lead to some serious shit going down! Here comes Fallout... -- ![]() ![]() "There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it's going to be a butterfly." |
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May 18 2009, 10:16pm Anchor | |
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May 18 2009, 10:23pm Anchor | |
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Who doesn't -- ![]() ![]() "There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it's going to be a butterfly." |
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May 20 2009, 2:41pm Anchor | |
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Toyoka wrote:Swine flu has been renamed to H1N1 to avoid confusion because it has nothing to do with pigs/swine.
False. H1N1 contains sections of strains of influenza endemic to pigs. The reason for the naming was because those strains have not infected human populations, whereas the influenza strains endemic to humans (obviously) and "Avian Flu" strains have. The change comes after paranoid, uninformed concern regarding pork products suddenly manifesting Swine Flu. |
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May 20 2009, 3:46pm Anchor | |
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This still doesn't mean the flu originated from swine/pigs and it still doesn't prove pigs are the cause. They are simply affected by it as well as humans. Thus, when it was first discovered, it was thought to have originated from pigs when in fact pigs had nothing to with the flu. It had also been discovered that birds also shared this flu, evidently ruling out pigs as the prime cause. Edited by: Toyoka |
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| May 20 2009, 3:57pm Anchor | ||
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Toyoka wrote:This still doesn't mean the flu originated from swine/pigs and it still doesn't prove pigs are the cause. They are simply affected by it as well as humans. Thus, when it was first discovered, it was thought to have originated from pigs when in fact pigs had nothing to with the flu. It had also been discovered that birds also shared this flu, evidently ruling out pigs as the prime cause.
Don't try and argue. You said it had nothing to do with pigs. Vangor never said that it originated from pigs. |
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May 20 2009, 4:33pm Anchor | |
| May 20 2009, 5:39pm Anchor | ||
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Jyffeh wrote:An animal can't specifically cause a virus under any circumstances. We could call it whale flu for all it matters.
That's good to point out.... Spontaneous Generation Edited by: ngs616 |
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May 20 2009, 5:46pm Anchor | |
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Toyoka wrote:This still doesn't mean the flu originated from swine/pigs and it still doesn't prove pigs are the cause.
As noted, no one suggested this originated or was caused by pigs. Toyoka wrote:Thus, when it was first discovered, it was thought to have originated from pigs when in fact pigs had nothing to with the flu.
Except, as noted, pigs do have something to do with the flu. While perhaps not the originators, the simplest, most likely, and most logical explanation for the genetic similarities shared between the current pandemic and a strain of influenza endemic to pigs is interaction with pigs. The simplest, most likely, and most logical explanation for the ability of human to human transmission of the current pandemic is interaction with humans who had strains of influenza endemic to humans. Toyoka wrote:It had also been discovered that birds also shared this flu, evidently ruling out pigs as the prime cause.
No, H1N1 contains sections of strains of influenza endemic to many bird populations. However, we've had a flu which was composed predominantly of a strain of influenza endemic to birds. Hence my notation in my comment regarding this. Swine Flu is a simple moniker. |
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May 21 2009, 11:43pm Anchor | |
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Swine flu is, genetically, an amalgation of 5 different bits of bird flu mixed with one part pig flu and one part human flu. However, the media blew it completely out of proportion and caused needless panic and mass hysteria on a level that should have been criminal. -- Hey, you! Yeah, you reading this! Do you liek forumz? Join the ModDB Forum Junkies Group and show off your forum love! Did you happen to enjoy reading my reviews? Ha ha, just joking, nobody read my reviews. Regardless, check out my (rarely updated at all) blog, The Honest Gamer. |
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