Religion. Thread

Well I can give for sure that I mentioned facts and not mere opinions in my previous post. Opinions are another matter - wheter or not God exist is a subject open to opinions, but the Church's faults and "business" are not.

When discussing religion, it's worth noting that what we're discussing is the result of several, radical changes occurred over the past hundred/thousand years. All of those changes have been made by humans. Do you know, for example, that the first Jews believed in more than one god? What happened to those gods?

God is Father, Son and the Holy Spirit. They are a single personality(they are not people like  you said above). God don't fit in any space and time, just because God created world. How is this possible to live outside time? Phrophets for instance when foresseing are not "trapped" into time. They are in Past-Present-Future the same time. For the three-in-one point. I believe you are aware of how Saint Spyridon proved how God can be three persons - one being. En.wikipedia.org . So this is how the God subject works. Maybe the difference between them is that thety have different natures, dufferetn hypostases. Jesus is the "human-ized" God and Holy Spirit the spirit of god,its power. I found a good point on the net. "what is God" is ansered with "one single being" and "Who is God" is answered with Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. (To make sure i haven't changed the meaning i will copy it as well. he answer to the question "What is God?" indicates the one-ness of the divine nature, while the answer to the question "Who is God?" indicates the three-ness of "Father, Son and Holy Spirit".)

I'm not here to bash, but I would like to know where the idea that God is one single being comes from. I understand the philosiphy, but there's more evidence that points toward there being a godhead (three distinct beings) rather than the trinity. Would you like biblical references?

I feel that my doubting of the existence of god gives me an unparalleled appreciation and wonder for life. If there is nothing else that we can agree on, I believe that we can all agree that life is a incredible gift, and whether it comes from god or the chances of reality it deserves our absolute protection.

This is in no way referencing any statements that were made prior, I'm simply indicating my beliefs on religion and the existence of god. 
I retain a sort of pandeistic belief. 
Put simply I believe in god, though I don't believe that god exists by any anthropormophic standard, nor do I believe that said god exists as a singular entity. But god subsists as more of an essence than anything. Nor does/(or possibly) can this god find any interest in humanity and thus doesnt find any need to dabble in our affairs.

just my 2 pence,
 feel free to flame away

Marinos: You forget evolution. The Bible says that God created all lifeforms as we can see them (no changes triggered by evolution).

The Vatican has accepted evolution, anyway, so only the die-hard "Evolution isn't valid" guys resist now.

Being religious is considered a weakness, hence the tendence to consider religious people less smart than atheists...

I am not actually sure. But what evolution is actually? Noone have prooved that life in earth started from a single cell and Bible doesnt says that humans once had more fur and were a bit different. But at last Bible uses terms that we get confused with. Eg. the time God needed to create world. Not actually 7 days but 7 periods.

& what are you Saying is Completely False . Why do you think they are weaker ?
I can pull things out of mind too
& about stealing & Stuff , You Need to define Religious by word &  Religious by act
you can see many people say that they are Religious  but they don't know anything
the Religious  supposed to be afraid about punishment if he does something wrong or be punished by his conscience
but Atheist no because he know he will not be punished for it 
the Religious must control his mind & Instincts

& about afraid of death is joke
i will tell you why :-
the Religious   Should be happy because it is lifted out of the agony of the world and go to the Heaven
But Atheist this is it there is anything else & he be afraid because he know that it my life end here  

We can live without religion
One of the old leader of islam said
"Work For Real life as you are going to live forever , & Work for your After life as you are going to die tomorrow "
i don't know what kind of Religious  people you see
but i see the Religious  people that i meet everyday :-
!-Study & Work hard
2-they don't surrender for insects (much more than some of their Atheist counterparts)
3-pray in 25 min a day which is divided for 5 min in a day

 All modern (mostly) science base on Muslims scientists & Religious    research theory
En.wikipedia.org
& Muslims proved earth is Spherical
& that prove been religious doesn't hold science at least i'm talking about Islam

Anyway the main point is Atheist is not better than religious
is just illusion some people created

in Islam studying science is MUST DO

Dude let me get this straight
Religious are weaker , kill more & shit
& Atheist not ??
& Wiki is biased  ??
& you words are proof enough ??

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ah..ok

Well as i promised myself not to go on conversion that will not lead anywhere & you didn't get my point about death & other thing

The Atheist is not better than religious
The religious  is not better than Atheist 

Did you get what i mean ??

Personally, I beieve that this was made so people understands World Creation better. Theories on how world was created are in a lot religions. Also, would you find it logical if God said that they created whole galaxies and aliens when he said all these about creation?

Being scared of death is natural, just because you don't know what comes after death, or even if you "know" you haven't experienced it. But actually none of my grandparents or other relatives which passed away the last years were afraid of death. They died totally peacefully and we all knew that they are not in this life anymore , away from its difficulties and problems.Also, Supermedo, none will be punished for not believing in God or doing something wrong. We won't actually get to come in contact woth God. Actually, atheists are more sure to be saved rather than religious whose belief is fake.About Eloah-Elohim I haven't really searched it a lot, but people usually say a lot of silly things. I remember when a big bat hit onto some lights on the streets and someone announced that it was Eloah or Elohim. These persons are these who make people who started to move to Atheism sure to make the final step and become atheists. Because they believe in fake things and don't search the truth of the religion.Another personal belief, is that if we,who say we are religious,put curses on Atheists, ask the bad to happen to them, we "worth" punishment. We should actually prey for these people more than we prey for ourselves. Esecially now that I am living a personal experience in my family, this has made me stronger psychically.

Evolutionary Theory does not attempt to explain the origin of life but the diversity of life. Single, unicellular common ancestry was dropped once bioinformatics came about; we arose from unicellular organisms, but there is a billion year gap between the beginnings of life and the start of heredity which is filled with horizontal gene transfer. However, no hypothesis of Abiogenesis seeks to prove (and let's not use "prove" alongside science) exactly how life originated, merely demonstrate the potential of this occurring and the likelihood based on primeval conditions and chemical composition. I feel quite confident in saying life could have arose on Earth through natural means.

In Genesis alone we have direct disagreements on the first day with large scale cosmology (solar system formation) and physics (darkness is not a physical object); on the second with both chemistry (evaporation is within the sky) and meteorology (water cycle, ergo the sky does not separate), on the third with common sense (physical properties of liquid water) and botany (green plants use photosynthesis); on the fourth with large scale cosmology (solar system formation) again and astronomy (the moon reflects light); on the fifth with evolutionary theory (order of descent); on the sixth with evolutionary theory (order of descent) again.

Throughout the Bible we see disagreements with geology (the world-wide flood), planetary formation (flat earth), heliocentricity (sun orbiting earth), germ theory (ritual cures for disease), and more. The entirety of the work is written from an idiocentric and ignorant perspective, and this is why I note common sense above; if you don't understand the shape and scale of the Earth or physical properties of liquids it makes perfect sense to gather the water under the sky into one place and reveal land, but this is nonsensical.

As to actual disagreements, stem-cell research, vaccination (will of God), ether for delivering (woman's punishment) as well as subsequent anesthetization , and dissection (resurrection on end of days) are places where Christianity has had no specific words on (compared to evolutionary theory, heliocentricity, and others) the topic but took anti-scientific and anti-progressive stances which are ridiculous in modern thought and were later (except stem-cell research, obviously) forgotten.

If you require a doctrine to prevent you from stealing and killing and to force you to help others, then you're sociopathic. Notice, it is weakness because you feel or have been told enough to rote recite that it is required to be good.

How do you figure this comparison? I am beholden to my girlfriend, parents, siblings, friends, coworkers, fellow students, and of course law enforcement. I believe if I have a right to do as I desire they have a right to do as they desire. You, on the other hand, would assume they are trumped by an imaginary friend who decides if your actions are right or wrong, and therefore the punishment by the people surrounding you is immaterial.

While there is a strong necessity to join groups for protection while in prison, a religion being such a group, statistics regarding atheists in prison show a disproportionately small amount of the prison population compared to the general population. "More" is properly inaccurate, however, as much as they don't do so "less", and even if we accepted your premise that all those who label themselves as religious do not show this via action (which, I'll note, you're basically committing the No True Scotsman fallacy) we would expect to see marginal decrease compared to non-religious groups. The sickening fact is atheism is not sold (at all, I would say) as a moral guide whilst Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc., are, and evidence would suggest the opposite thus far if anything.

I am amongst the more militant of atheists, and I don't think I'm guilty of your initial charicature of atheists. Being an atheist is no defense from being an asshole, from being ignorant, from being incorrect, and more, and I won't say that they are not true atheists or some such, but beyond anecdotes I've never encountered this phantom angstful and spiteful atheist people say they have; I do, however, have enough examples from television, social groups, politicians, real militants, etc., of the religious being angstful, spiteful, domineering, and more. I just don't preemptively judge people based on the actions of others.

Yes. I would find it logical if a supposedly omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent made at least one statement involving information beyond contemporary knowledge. I would find it more logical if they hadn't made statements which are absurdly false based even on contemporary knowledge.