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p0rt
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Jan 17 2009, 1:58am Anchor

heaven and hell is something to wipe your ass with in a cheap hotel, if there wasnt nothing in charge precognent dreams etc wouldnt exist, if there was something then twatty sprity twatty things wouldnt stalk the earth thinking pc's are brain swapping machines

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Kee715
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Jan 17 2009, 2:11am Anchor

I can never seem to understand what you say in your posts... But they never seem to be good/nice, well there is nothing I can do other than ignore you completely so goodbye. *Ignores you*

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Jan 17 2009, 2:55am Anchor

So far I can see everyone is correct in some way.

QUESTION EVERYTHING...this doesn't mean take everything for being problematic, it means do some research into it if your that interested in it. Once you have the facts, analyze and see whether or not the first question was right by looking at all the facts. My opinion, if you can't do that then your too stubborn and ignorant. Not willing to research into it before making an allegation. Once you have what you found, make your decision.

TAKE INTEREST...just because you don't believe in religion doesn't mean you shouldn't take interest in at least knowing about some of them and how they exist, why, what their beliefs are, principles of life. It's pretty interesting how they all come about. I've been to a youth group before with a friend, and basically the principles of this group were all about treating your friends and family and your neighbors the way you want to be treated and to love them. In reality thats pretty far from reality, but its very understandable and respectable.

LET YOUR CHILDREN THINK FOR THEMSELVES...probably the best thing my parents ever did for me was that they never pushed religion on me. My dad is catholic, my mom grew up as a christian in her family. I was never pushed toward religion. I was allowed to make my decision upon my beliefs on what I was being taught in school and by my brothers, friends, family. And I believe this...the principles of religions (or at least many) as far as neighborhoods and family, friends, and so forth are very respectable and I think its a good principle. 
       BUT, I just can't believe that I am here because a far superior being of matter either created me or an ancestor. I believe that Science holds the key to our success and knowlege of our past. I also can't believe that others are lower or unequal to me because I'm of a certain gender, race, religion, whatever. There used to be a time when, if you didn't believe there was a god, you'd be hanged or killed in some other fashion. What the hell is that? I'm not saying don't try to let the person or child in on your beliefs, I'm saying don't force them. If they don't want to, they don't want to. You're only making it worse.

Thats'd pretty much my opinion on this matter. Do your research before making allegations. Take interest in something new and learn about it bfore making any more allegations. Don't force whatever you believe unto others as that would just make you look like a dumbass anyways.

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Kee715
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Jan 17 2009, 3:11am Anchor

That sounds like a good topic ender, let us leave it at that... And maybe remark about Scientology, but not from me of course.

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BrQ
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Jan 17 2009, 2:12pm Anchor

There's something I don't understand of people who are trying to find EVIDENCE whether a religion excist or not. Many people get it wrong, they try to find out whether Jesus actually lived or not, wheter God really excists or not, whether etcetcetc. Why on earth do you want to know who created God? Would you suddenly become a religious if you actually find out who created God/found out God excists? Most people don't get the point of religion. It's not like that you can't see God, and there is no real evidence for it, He doesn't excist. You should not search God. He will find YOU and you should follow Him.

Religion =/= Science, so please don't compare those two with each other.

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Jan 17 2009, 5:47pm Anchor

LOCK...

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Henley
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Jan 17 2009, 6:56pm Anchor
=EMPEROR= wrote:LOCK...

ok man, shutup two threads now.

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Jan 17 2009, 9:30pm Anchor

lol,sorry but this two threads need to be locked....

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Henley
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Jan 18 2009, 4:46am Anchor
=EMPEROR= wrote:lol,sorry but this two threads need to be locked....

thats not for you to decide.

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Midnitte
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Jan 18 2009, 9:42am Anchor
BrQ wrote:There's something I don't understand of people who are trying to find EVIDENCE whether a religion excist or not. Many people get it wrong, they try to find out whether Jesus actually lived or not, wheter God really excists or not, whether etcetcetc. Why on earth do you want to know who created God? Would you suddenly become a religious if you actually find out who created God/found out God excists? Most people don't get the point of religion. It's not like that you can't see God, and there is no real evidence for it, He doesn't excist. You should not search God. He will find YOU and you should follow Him.

Religion =/= Science, so please don't compare those two with each other.


Start with last good post?

Of course you can't really find evidence of God, and shouldn't look for it. That would be like looking for true enlightenment, you'll probably go mad by looking for it. Jesus on the other hand is a different story since he was a real person, scientists are always trying to find the truth because there was no way he was born in december, its just too cold and there were no bright stars during that time.

Honestly I don't think it matters, all thats realivant are your values. If Jesus was indeed born in summer and not on december 25th should it really change the meaning of christmas?  (bah now this just feels like a rant of mine, hope you understand what I meant though)

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Vangor
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Jan 18 2009, 3:49pm Anchor
Midnitte wrote:Of course you can't really find evidence of God, and shouldn't look for it. That would be like looking for true enlightenment, you'll probably go mad by looking for it. Jesus on the other hand is a different story since he was a real person, scientists are always trying to find the truth because there was no way he was born in december, its just too cold and there were no bright stars during that time.

You cannot find evidence for that which does not exist nor that which does not manifest, and that which does not manifest is indistinguishable from that which does not exist. Do you have reasons why evidence would not exist for a deity which does? You can suggest nonsense regarding a deity requiring faith, being supernatural, etc., but I ask realistically, why the caveat? Either you're insulating your own cognitive dissonance by attempting to justify away the same rigors you apply to all other claims in order to maintain the faith or you do so for another's. Now, if the ends of this insulation is isolated belief in self-described eidolons, I have no concern. No man is an island, however.

Further, I contest you saying outright Jesus was a real person. I do not frankly care, but the utter lack of contemporary historians who affirm the existence of a person upon whom the Biblical character is based upon and a similar lack of historical records for practically all actions which Jesus was said to have done (non-miraculous included) would mean you've no more evidence to suggest he was real than you would for Gilgamesh or Peter Parker (Spiderman). Saying matter-of-fact is the problem here.

Profanity-Incarnate
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Jan 18 2009, 3:57pm Anchor

why the hell would a god care if you have faith in him/her/it? its an omnicient being.

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Jan 27 2009, 1:41pm Anchor

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Robert-33
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Jan 27 2009, 10:37pm Anchor
deathbal101 wrote:why the hell would a god care if you have faith in him/her/it? its an omnicient being.

Because that is the point of human existence. The phrase 'man lives to bring glory to god', from those
old texts, describes that aspect. Everything anyone makes is ultimately intended to reflect back 'glory',
so to speak. If man is out of communion with his creator, than that is bad. The tricky part is, man has rejected
his creator, preferring to trust himself. So that is why it is foolish to blame any problem on God.

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Skull-Wart
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Jan 31 2009, 7:23am Anchor

Why do you need religion to be enlightend? being a good person is a way of life you don't need a religion for that do you?

has any one see the zeitgeist: greatest story ever told? it makes some fair points

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Jan 31 2009, 8:44am Anchor

I will try to explain some things here...And i am going to use he-his-him meaning God, but God is genderless if you don't already knowGod wouldn't be God if people were able to fully understand his reasons, what he is, what he is able to do and etc. Usually when not accepting God, you put your ego over than anything beacause simply you try to convince yourself that there is nothing more than what you understand. If you for instance prey to God and ask for smth, while you actually believe that it won't come true, at last it won't. You have to be patient if you really want God to accept your preys.As for hell and heaven, these two are not places, like you are made to believe. They can mostly characterized as phsychical states, where in Heaven you are near God  you prey him and in Hell , you can't come in contanct with God because during your life in this.....let's say dimension you haven't offered it to him. It's like this: A team of 10 people. You all gather somewhere and listen to pop music. but you don't like pop, you actually hate it. Hell is like that, you can't feel God and this is really bad, like you are on fire. On Jesus now. Jesus is a historical person, accepting or not what he says and does. Roman historians, generals and simple soldiers wrote about him, either admiring him or accusing him. Jesus is what a human should base his life on, because God became a human  and was even crossed so that everything bad we did was forgiven. Think of yourself seeing Jesus on the cross, seeing God in the cross and try to understand if he is a good person or not.For the disasters that are happening, the only responsible "person" is humanity. As for God's nation, there is no such nation, every human is a child of God and loves him the same as the others. And about Jews, the Bible states that when they decide to return to God's road, God will help them build Jerusalem and thei nation on all their glory. If you think there is no God because of all this disasters, maybe you should learn that  when Jesus did a miracle he asked anyone who saw it not to tell anyone. Miracles are happening everyday, we just have to believe.

Vangor
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Jan 31 2009, 4:17pm Anchor

I cannot determine whether marinos actually believes the nonsense he is saying or is merely a charicature of an ignorant believer. Misspellings, block of text, flat assertions, worn arguments, and a terrible explanation concerning pop music. I'm leaning towards satire, but I have been wrong before.

Spector
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Feb 1 2009, 1:56am Anchor
Vangor wrote:I cannot determine whether marinos actually believes the nonsense he is saying or is merely a charicature of an ignorant believer. Misspellings, block of text, flat assertions, worn arguments, and a terrible explanation concerning pop music. I'm leaning towards satire, but I have been wrong before.

It's theology in an barely comprehensible block of text, maybe.

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Feb 3 2009, 11:05am Anchor

well, english is not my 1st lang. and i don;t speak it fluedly either.And let me set it different:You like basketball and hate football, you can't find someone to play basketball, but everyone is playing soccer. The feeling you get is like what would be when you are "in Hell'. But when you are in Heavens, you are excited, happy. I believe that modern societies can't understand and accept this due to lack of contact with the religion, and also that Hollywood starts become our rough models. NOte though, that I am not the person to explain you or anyone in general about all this, but a priest. You are free though to believe whatever you want.

Skull-Wart
Skull-Wart Crouching boredom, Hidden anti-climax...
Feb 7 2009, 7:53am Anchor

You know if god is so powerful and em... Whatever then could he just be pretending to be good? anyone think of that! If he is so powerful and loves soooo much why would he let us die? Mabye because he a sadistic bastard thats what!

I'm sticking with the zeitgeist there was no human god (...mabye Thor... well he was Dwarven...) that 3 masiahs story says a lot 3... i'm not saying that thats a lt but in one country! em... No. If people would give up on religion we could move on all it does is give a sense of false or em... unfalse? closeness? to God, cause death famine and war all in all it does more harm then good. Example G.Bush stoped the artificial contraception program in Africa because h it includes abortion. thats lot a lot of people going to die because of starvation the kids + the parents! screw religion go me... em... yeah tht came out wrong...

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Profanity-Incarnate
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Feb 11 2009, 9:09am Anchor
'Facebook wrote:the bible always says god loves you, but if you dont worship him, he tortures you for eternity.

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Feb 11 2009, 10:00am Anchor

That's not true. When you are always the bad guy, and even when you understand your mistakes but don't want to get forgiv then he tortures you. How? He doesn't throw you in a big boiler, as you most probably think, but you actually get tortured by not being able to come in contact with Him.In addition, before accusing God, read and ask first.(general comment)

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Feb 12 2009, 6:00pm Anchor
Henley wrote:
=EMPEROR= wrote:lol,sorry but this two threads need to be locked....

thats not for you to decide.


-My reply  after one month-
Sorry  i act  like an ass.
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sorry again.....

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Skull-Wart
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Mar 1 2009, 10:53am Anchor

What if God was gay huh?

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Jyffeh
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Mar 1 2009, 1:18pm Anchor

Was it really worth bumping this thread to say that?

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