Modern warfare 2 Thread

heh didn't know that, for the customer? or could you run a dedicated server on your PS3?

I'm wondering where I said everyone who plays on a LAN has internet access, and I'm still wondering where everyone is getting the idea that IWnet is used for this private match. In the interview, the question specified LAN games WITHOUT internet access. The reply was that they play private games on their LAN (LAN, not matchmaking servers / private internet). So please, point me to a proper article (not your assumptions) that states there is no LAN, only IW's servers. Such thing could be the deal breaker to if I buy it or not.

Edited by: Cryrid

see :p PC xP

Where does it say that? He may have dodged questions, but he never denied them at the same time. At the moment the comparison chart says that both support lan play, and the only indication otherwise is mere speculation and hints, as you would say.  Now if they would have used the 'the game wasn't balanced for this' or the 'we want you to play the game how it was meant to be experienced' answers during the lan questions, then I would be suspicious.

Plus it's a universal truth that if a PR guy is dodging a question, it's because he knows the answer will be unpopular. Shifty double-speak is the PR way of saying they're forcing something onto customers that customers won't like. If there was proper local-only LAN play they'd have said so by now.

Why would they bother skirting around the issue when they've been pretty straight forward about every other feature they've removed so far? Seriously Gibb, you think IW's PR guys care about giving unpopular answers? Read the rest of their interviews. They're filled with unpopular answers, and the general sense that they don't care about causing an outrage. If there wasn't lan, they wouldn't hide it for fear of angering the pc community, they'd shove it down our throat just as easily as they have everything else. They were asked if it has LAN support, they replied by saying they played on their LAN. Every list of comparisons state it has LAN, every article that lists and summarizes the bad news (such as the site ambershee linked to) excludes a lack of LAN. I can't even find comments on ausgamers, kotaku, destructoid, or other similar sites where the same conclusion about lan has been reached; it is only in this thread that I've seen people state it has no lan.

Edited by: Cryrid

Sorry Cryrid, to my eyes all the interviews and press releases have read like pure PR smokescreens to me. Even the unpopular features (like the lack of dedicated server) have been phrased as positive selling points promoting how great IWNet is, and they stick to that line even in the face of indisputable technology limitations (the zero ping advantage) and precedent (every other peer-to-peer automated matchup service ever has been inferior to dedicated servers).

To expand and clarify one point, the zero ping thing is the worst case of building a smokescreen from pure burning bullshit in this PR campaign. I don't care how awesome your technology is, a tenth of a second difference is impossible to hide in a twitch-based environment. Despite this, they insist again and again that it isn't a problem. Host advantage will be noticable, and their insistence on pretending otherwise gives me little faith that any of their other answers have any substance to them.

I have just thought of something horrible. What if they are telling the truth!

 There's only two ways to balance a game running on imbalanced infrastructure.

1. Add lag artificially to the host. Great, so if you spent time and money on a well tuned top-end rig connecting via a dedicated gaming broadband connection, you'll still be reduced to the level of the gimp we automagically matched you with, the one with a spyware addled old clunker connecting via the same wireless connection that the rest of his family are using to browse UTube. real progress there

2. Make the game so spammy and skill-free that lag is almost irrelevant. Can't aim? Just load up on perks that let you mass-spam explosives and blindfire your way to victory. That's so much fun for everyone on the server!

They might even go for gold and do both......

Actually, I think it might have been removed because of the stupid third person game mode - third person obviously allowing you to see around corners, lean allowing you to fire without being exposed..

It's 60€ on Steam ( which is about $90 US) and that's absolutely too expensive - no way I'm giving this much money for a game, but I've just checked out local on-line retailer (Slovenia) and they're offering it at 44€ which seems reasonable - perhaps I'll buy it after all

Ambershee, you didn't click on 'Advanced Video'

Yeah by all accounts the SP is worth about 5hrs of gameplay, so about the same as the original. Its 90 bucks on Steam for us Aussies so there is no chance in hell that I'm paying that price for a 5hr game, especially after I just spent 55 bucks for Dragon Age: Origins and its 80hrs of gameplay. Fuck you, IW.

sheeeeeeeeeee~~ wanna go "i told you so" againts Cryid?
sorry man :p but admit it xP we won