Major Mod Dissapointments Thread

I get so excited when I read about the mods in the making, just to be dissapointed because of copy right laws.

2 mods that come to mind is the Middle earth mod and the Tatooine mod both for morrowind.

C'mon guys you wanna tell me you worked for months on end, creating these mods and not one of you though of finding out about copyright infrigements first?

You get our hopes up just to be shot down in dissapointment

Ok, so you're not allowed to charge money for it, or publish it, why not just release the mods for free? Just put it on some anonamouse (can't spell that word) server, free for all to download. Are you guys seriously just going to throw away months and months of work? Or maybe this is just a case of false advertising, and these mods where never being made in the first place?

the problem is that even releasing for free is infringement and thus persecutable. those mods are fuxored, no chance to make use of them in a legal way if hit by CnD.

What I'm saying is, If those corporate big wiggs stuck it to me after so many months of hard work, I'll definateley stick it back to them by releasing the mod anyway.

They can do it annonmously, heck they can mail it to me and I'll put it on a web server for the world to download.

No.

It doesn't hurt to be original though

Draken_Korin wrote: What I'm saying is, If those corporate big wiggs stuck it to me after so many months of hard work, I'll definateley stick it back to them by releasing the mod anyway.

They can do it annonmously, heck they can mail it to me and I'll put it on a web server for the world to download.

do not underestimate law suits. if you publish some work (no matter if free or commercial) that contains work of that company they can (and mostly will) sue you for CRI.

the only way to protect yourself from any form of CnD or CRI is to come up with your own ideas. then it's you who can CnD and CRI

Yeah... money pwns everyone

Exactly. And you'd get fine thousands of dollars just because you were too stubborn to change some things. Why don't people take the original route and come up with their own ideas instead of banking off of licenses

or if they are, maybe actually checking with the corporation first

wait, i thought this thread was gonna be for flaming mods that stunk.. oh well

i was looking forward to Halo DM for Half-Life
i mean.. halo has an OHH KAY deathmatch, i prefer it over normal hldm.....

but i hate console FPS, xbox, xbox controller, and smacktards who think crouching on your corpse is a blast

i only hope the Halo mod for Generals doesnt get canned

I hope Halo gets canned

haha, yeah, i dont like halo (#10 on your list! halo2 should be #9)

but then again, i didnt like Generals either
(damn you EA, wheres my side bar.. and FMVs!)

You never played Goldeneye 007? You've been deprived

Moved to a relevant section. Suggestion, Comments & Complaints is for modDB site discussion and feedback.

Edited by: frosty-theaussie

I can understand where Draken's coming from. Look at DBZ Bid for power, And Mortal Kombat Quake, and Aliens Quake. All Squashed because the "Companies" couldn't profit off it. There are a few that if you present it to them logicically they can usually work out a deal with you. I was lucky I researched mine *Currently* witha friend that worked with the company and the ova series it was from.
Try to negitioating with them see if there is some middle ground you can meet with.

They will never usually make a deal with you. I tried to start development on a Final Fantasy mod in the past, and I sent an email to Square-Enix to see if it'd be alright to make a mod, even if it meant changing a bunch of things to what they see fit for a fan-made mod. Here's what I got back:

Dear Customer:

Thank you for taking the time to e-mail us. All content of our games is
copyright SQUARE ENIX Co., Ltd. We regret to inform you that we do not
grant permission to individuals to use any copyrighted content. Because
we receive numerous requests, our policy is to decline any use of our
copyrights. We currently are not granting permission to any one except our
own business partners.

The Private Policy of SQUARE ENIX Co., Ltd./SQUARE ENIX USA, Inc., stating
the use of materials, is as follows:

All game materials, including, but not limited to, their design, text,
graphics, screen shots, files are copyrighted by SQUARE ENIX Co., Ltd.
All rights reserved. Any other use of materials of our games -- including
any commercial use, reproduction for purposes other than that noted above,
modification, distribution, or republication -- without the prior written
permission of SQUARE ENIX is strictly prohibited. No materials of our
games may be used on any other product, published, or otherwise performed
in public.

For any further copyright questions, you will want to give our main office
a call at (310) 846-0400. The receptionist will direct you to the
appropriate parties.

Sincerely,
Ryan Riley
Customer Service Representative

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Zack Reese wrote:

> Is it possible for me to create a modification for Half-Life 2 using characters and maps from the Final Fantasy games without conflicting with any copyright legalities? And if so, is it possible for me to still use this if I include in the modification the proper written copyrights at the bottom of it when the game is booted? Thank you for reading this email.
>
> Zack Reese

So you see, you still can't be successful, even if you try to be flexible.

And there's still those damned FF HL mods out there that claim to be close to completed for years....

LET'S KILL THEM

How about this? Translate.google.com

Pretty cool, and it's an Elder Scrolls mod, too

Draken_Korin wrote: What I'm saying is, If those corporate big wiggs stuck it to me after so many months of hard work, I'll definateley stick it back to them by releasing the mod anyway.

Lol....good luck on that one.

there was a Predator mod for morrow wind from what someone mentioned awhile back....

What gets my the most is why people even bother making a mod off something already existant in the entertainment industry.What ever happened to originality?!

*shrugs* Dunno, poeple like to create from thier Fave shows/movies/books/FanFictions....just so they could have the ability to play out as one thier charaters and such. Thats just my opinion though.

CyanideCotdPnuts wrote: What gets my the most is why people even bother making a mod off something already existant in the entertainment industry.What ever happened to originality?!

that is exactly the main beef i've got with todays gaming industry and why i hate it: nothing but lame reproductions (either on fan side or company side), graphic-whoring and much more. i really miss games that come up with an idea which is not main-stream, that doesn't focus on lame game elements (yes, graphic IS lame. slam good artists behind it and you've got your graphics... but the game still sux).

because in terms of games not mods, alot of these sell. For example star wars and crap, star wars has a lot of fans . And alot of them will buy the games cuz they are star wars.

Makes complete sense to me

Not to mention, money = success. You can't always cater to the underground environment. There are plenty of great games that have been released (Otogi, Katamari Legacy, Shadow Hearts, etc.), but they've become sleeper hits from one way or another (Otogi was barely marketed at all, and Shadow Hearts was released a day before Final Fantasy . So, you're going to be seeing that a lot, especially sequels to franchises.

Just keep this in mind: later on, no one is going to be satisfied with another recreating of an old product. You have to bring the innovation, so you set the standard for next-generation video games/mods. Stand out on your own, and success will be brought to you.

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