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Sep 10 2009, 10:19pm Anchor

That's right, Legend Of Zelda: Source, A Zelda Half Life 2 Mod... to be. Right now we are just really looking for some more members to help out with it. If you think you could help out, please apply in our forum, right now all we have is me, our mapper, a modeler, and a minor programmer. We have lots of hopes and dreams for this mod that are possible for us, but we need some more people helping. By the way, if your on the team, you get the developer copy to play around with *wink* *wink*. Just to give you a little taste, this is the 25% done temple of time map...
EDIT: Wow, I cant post links... that is really suckish
So please, if you want to help out with a kick but to be zelda mod, please apply in the forums and/or add me on steam. There are a couple more maps to play around with, but the temple of time is coming along nicely.

So sorry about the links, but since im a newbie here I cant post links :(
Since I can't post any links, ill have to give the forum and movie's/screenies on steam, my steam is xanarcherilx ...

Sep 10 2009, 10:25pm Anchor

Hey Anarcheril, here's the forum link:
 www.lozsource.freeforums.org
And the link to the test video you made (the sword is a placeholder, Im modeling a new one):
S370.photobucket.com

leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Sep 11 2009, 12:11am Anchor

Hmm

p.s. tempting the wrath of nintendo isn't fun

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Sep 13 2009, 9:45am Anchor
leilei wrote:Hmm

p.s. tempting the wrath of nintendo isn't fun


Uhh yea, the "Hmm" link isn't our mod, that is an old abandon one, and were not tempting the wrath of nintendo, were going through things very carefully to make it legal for you people to play. All current models and future models are custom, all textures are from hl2 or are custom. And the proper credits will be given to nintendo when the mod is released.

Stubby
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Sep 13 2009, 10:20am Anchor

Legend of zelda has been made already.

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Sep 13 2009, 5:23pm Anchor
Stubby wrote:Legend of zelda has been made already.

Legend of Zelda mod, sorry i didn't quite get what you were saying. Try to be a bit more specific. As far as I know, there has never been a hl2 zelda mod, after searching and searching I found some half done zelda maps, and 3 abandon mods.

Henley
Henley Currently Occupied for Reasons Unknown
Sep 13 2009, 5:40pm Anchor
anarcheril wrote:
Stubby wrote:Legend of zelda has been made already.

Legend of Zelda mod, sorry i didn't quite get what you were saying. Try to be a bit more specific. As far as I know, there has never been a hl2 zelda mod, after searching and searching I found some half done zelda maps, and 3 abandon mods.


There is a reason why these mods dont get finished...

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leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Sep 14 2009, 12:30am Anchor

They don't even have to tell you they're foxed. It's sometimes kept confidential when it happens.

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Mr_Cyberpunk
Mr_Cyberpunk Game Developer
Sep 14 2009, 2:34am Anchor

LeiLei is right, we've seen so so so many proposals for OOT remakes and every single one always gets shot down.. why.. because Nintendo are nazis...

If you get your game even to a releasable state, even with your own resources they'll fox you.. same applies with Final Fantasy, Chrono Cross.. you name it.

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Sep 14 2009, 7:01am Anchor

they're not nazi's, they keep making new games based on the same stuff & keep selling older games on newer platforms.

I wouldn't want someone copying my old stuff if I was still selling it too.

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Sep 14 2009, 9:15am Anchor

... -.- This is not a remake, im almost posotive I already said that. If anything, the maps will be based off Ocarina of Time. Also, we were very careful to make sure we weren't using any Nintendo items, such as models, map, or textures, we will also have to remix the music. But if it does come and we are forced to not release it, I would take the 5 hours, to change the character names and the name of the game, from zelda, to xelda, and link, to pink. xD Gannon to...?

Henley
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Sep 14 2009, 9:19am Anchor
anarcheril wrote:... -.- This is not a remake, im almost posotive I already said that. If anything, the maps will be based off Ocarina of Time. Also, we were very careful to make sure we weren't using any Nintendo items, such as models, map, or textures, we will also have to remix the music. But if it does come and we are forced to not release it, I would take the 5 hours, to change the character names and the name of the game, from zelda, to xelda, and link, to pink. xD Gannon to...?

Then why not just make a game that is nothing like it, you will spend more time trying to avoid the C&D rather then expanding gameplay or your asset base. Sure base the gameplay off zelda or whatever but making the game exactly the same with different assets and different names for characters will still get you a C&D.

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shadowofamn
shadowofamn 3D Artist
Sep 15 2009, 12:47am Anchor

Here is an idea, turn zelda from a elve to a dwarf and change her sex to female, name her Welda. Instead of a sword, use an axe. Lol, dont tell anyone it is a rip off of zelda and no one will care.

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Mr_Cyberpunk
Mr_Cyberpunk Game Developer
Sep 15 2009, 1:17am Anchor

I agree, just look at how successful Fable 1 and 2 were at copying OOT's gameplay style- I definitely urge you to make a Total Conversion of your own ideas over a remake.

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Sep 15 2009, 4:47pm Anchor

UPDATE: The map has had some serious updates, if you go to the forum posted above by linfosoma you can check out the new things.

Sigma
Sigma Resident Stepmania Freak :D
Sep 16 2009, 3:45am Anchor
Mr_Cyberpunk wrote:I agree, just look at how successful Fable 1 and 2 were at copying OOT's gameplay style- I definitely urge you to make a Total Conversion of your own ideas over a remake.

they weren't similar at all lol :p at least not to me xP zelda relied much more on exploration then fable did
anyway, even if its not a remake they will still shut you down, the more work you have done, the more fun they have in doing it
its enough just to look like it

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Mr_Cyberpunk
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Sep 16 2009, 5:35am Anchor

The combat system and the shops were very similar hence why I said "successful", Fable was trying too hard to ripoff Zelda and IMO failed epically towards the end. The start worked similarly though.

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Sigma
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Sep 16 2009, 5:10pm Anchor

yeah
ah well i enjoyed fable 1 and 2 alot :p but meh

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frosty-theaussie
frosty-theaussie Sonny Jim
Sep 20 2009, 9:06pm Anchor
Mr_Cyberpunk wrote:LeiLei is right, we've seen so so so many proposals for OOT remakes and every single one always gets shot down.. why.. because Nintendo are nazis...

If you get your game even to a releasable state, even with your own resources they'll fox you.. same applies with Final Fantasy, Chrono Cross.. you name it.


nazis oppress people. companies defend the intellectual property that they have spent decades developing.

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Mr_Cyberpunk
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Sep 21 2009, 10:06am Anchor
frosty-theaussie wrote:
nazis oppress people. companies defend the intellectual property that they have spent decades developing.

I thought Nazis bossed people around and forced them to surrender all their property. Sounds like Nintendo to me, at least that's what happened to that one Zelda mod that time.

Square also did it to the Crono Trigger remake guys and took all their assets.

Nazi's IMO. If they'd burned the assets it would be more obvious.

well maybe its a Facist, Theocracy.. "if you re-write the bible we'll kill you." yeah that sounds a bit more right.

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frosty-theaussie
frosty-theaussie Sonny Jim
Sep 22 2009, 5:05am Anchor
Mr_Cyberpunk wrote:
frosty-theaussie wrote:
nazis oppress people. companies defend the intellectual property that they have spent decades developing.

I thought Nazis bossed people around and forced them to surrender all their property. Sounds like Nintendo to me, at least that's what happened to that one Zelda mod that time.


nazis forced them to surrender their property in preparation for their lengthy internment in labour camps and when these proved too costly they were executed in bulk. of course i'm just reciting what is by now general knowledge to anyone who has attended history class in their junior year. it's not really comparable to call companies who have a right and obligation to defend their property "nazis". they are in the right both legally and morally and anyone who thinks they are doing wrong must believe themselves to be above the law. it's not even remotely facist. sure, it's easy to label a big organisation bossing the little people around as "facist" but that's not how it is - kids disobeying the law have it coming. some aren't even showing a base courtesy by contacting the parent company to ask if they can appropriate the IP for their own use. opening up dialogue with the owners can lead to some very amicable resolutions, such as lucasarts' eventual stance regarding fanmade star wars media. but otherwise, people complaining about being having their hands slapped for knowingly infringing on the legal domain of others are just being snotty. if you make an RPG with a guy in a green hat and nintendo C&D's it then that's terrible. if you make an RPG with a guy named LINK saving a girl named ZELDA then you should have bloody well known better.

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Mr_Cyberpunk
Mr_Cyberpunk Game Developer
Sep 22 2009, 5:13am Anchor

Well said Frosty.

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Joe_Shmoe
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Sep 22 2009, 7:25am Anchor

I dont get why most people tend to mod based on somebody elses content... sure i can understand youre a fan, but why not create your own hero, and your own world, and own story? we are in need of fresh ideas, and yeah, atleast you wont have to get "foxed" by nintendo then =] orrr if you realy want to make something based on someone elses content, why not "codename" your project something else, this way you dont draw unnecesary attention, and the final release can be called "legend of Zelda", so by the time you release it, theres nothing the owner (nintendo) can do, aslong as youre not profiting from it that is

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Sep 22 2009, 7:55am Anchor
Joe_Shmoe wrote:I dont get why most people tend to mod based on somebody elses content... sure i can understand youre a fan, but why not create your own hero, and your own world, and own story? we are in need of fresh ideas, and yeah, atleast you wont have to get "foxed" by nintendo then =] orrr if you realy want to make something based on someone elses content, why not "codename" your project something else, this way you dont draw unnecesary attention, and the final release can be called "legend of Zelda", so by the time you release it, theres nothing the owner (nintendo) can do, aslong as youre not profiting from it that is

yes they can
they will still c&d you, then you have to give up the content you made anyway
that or you just get plainly sued

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Joe_Shmoe
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Sep 22 2009, 9:46am Anchor

But why? ive read before from some people that spoke to lawyers about this situation, if a mod group manages to release their mod, then its out, and aslong as they dont profit from someone elses trademark, they are practically untouchable... so i read, but anyhow, i still firmly believe, leave other peoples ideas alone... thats why i wont even show much interest in those anime based games, or movie based... Maybe game based, depends... mods afterall

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