Karma Point System. Thread

I had an idea and wanted to know what everyone thought about it before I forgot or something .

With trolls all over Moddb just creating havoc on mod pages, and purposely getting negative karma points why doesn't Moddb just create a system with the Karma points where if they get enough Negative Karma Points they will be silenced for X amount of time. So if they get over -50 Karma points they will be silenced for a month. The system should add both Negative and Positive Karma Points in a pool so if they make good comments with Pos Karma it would equal out the bad comments so they wont be silenced if they make an accident or something. Don't know if someone else said this before but I thought it was a good idea.

What is stopping people creating multiple accounts to karma spam people to silence them.

Fantastic idea, it just will never work.

Also that if they would reset it every month or every 25 Positive Karma points, so people with like 50+ Karma points wont be just like hey I can troll for a while and not worry about getting silenced or anything.

Have you guys thought about attaching the account with an email adress? I'm sure you guys have, but anyone who can waste time by creating multiple email addresses must be seriously committed. If so what was the problem with email adresses?

To an email adress*

Icedecknight wrote: Also that if they would reset it every month or every 25 Positive Karma points, so people with like 50+ Karma points wont be just like hey I can troll for a while and not worry about getting silenced or anything.

Have you guys thought about attaching the account with an email adress? I'm sure you guys have, but anyone who can waste time by creating multiple email addresses must be seriously committed. If so what was the problem with email adresses?

To an email adress*

All accounts are connected to one email, yes people make multiple accounts.

Henley wrote: What is stopping people creating multiple accounts to karma spam people to silence them.

Fantastic idea, it just will never work.

You are talking about a "problem" that I've never seen at any forum that has a karma system - you are overestimating people's bad intentions.

I didn't want to make it my right but here are perfect examples. Moddb.com Look for the guy "moppop" on almost all the pages. I doubt that a troll would spent 3 or 4 hours trying to get someone silenced and if he does well you can't really do anything about it, just like how they can create 50 accounts anytime they want and troll some more, at least it will keep a percentage of the trolls in check.

Niteshade wrote: you are overestimating people's bad intentions.

You'd be amazed at how far bored people with too much free time will go.

ambershee wrote:

Niteshade wrote: you are overestimating people's bad intentions.

You'd be amazed at how far bored people with too much free time will go.

Yea but exactly how many idiots do you think are going to abuse the karma system?
Like I said earlier, I've never seen any "troll" make 50 new accounts to a forum just so that they can downgrade someone's karma.
Besides, I don't even think that's a solid argument because you can easily work around it. On flashback forum (Sweden's largest internet forum - where I've worked as a moderator) there is a 72 hour delay before you can post anything. New accounts has to wait 3 days until they get write-rights. It's an excellent spam/bot/troll filter that works wonders.

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i would give people negative karma just if i disagree with them because that means they are assholes

Niteshade wrote:

ambershee wrote:

Niteshade wrote: you are overestimating people's bad intentions.

You'd be amazed at how far bored people with too much free time will go.

Yea but exactly how many idiots do you think are going to abuse the karma system?
Like I said earlier, I've never seen any "troll" make 50 new accounts to a forum just so that they can downgrade someone's karma.
Besides, I don't even think that's a solid argument because you can easily work around it. On flashback forum (Sweden's largest internet forum - where I've worked as a moderator) there is a 72 hour delay before you can post anything. New accounts has to wait 3 days until they get write-rights. It's an excellent spam/bot/troll filter that works wonders.

Considering I spend a good portion of my week dealing with spammers, idiots and losers who abuse our current system.. I think plenty will abuse any system we make. Giving strangers power to silence someone in a gang like fashion how could they not resist something like that. It took people one hour to abuse our tracking software and we took it down 3 hours after that.

To give you an idea, we have removed the ability for new accounts to post comments with the word "love" in it, we have removed the ability for new accounts to post images for a whole year on profiles that allow community posts (90% of profiles), you cannot post links for a week after signing up and plenty of other ones, most weeks are we BUILDING things to stop people abusing our system.

So no this is not something we will be doing, we have our reasons. Maybe we can create a system similar to that on newgrounds and the karma is only a static thing nothing more. Only when we get time, and when Scott gives into my hounding about adding community and social things.

Speaking as someone with volumes of forum experience, both as a user and as a moderator/admin, I can safely say that in my (weighted) opinion, any form of a karma system is generally a Terribly Bad idea.

ambershee wrote:

Niteshade wrote: you are overestimating people's bad intentions.

You'd be amazed at how far bored people with too much free time will go.

And how vindictive people will get at the slightest provocation. Just look at the BF3 news post on the lack of SDK. Anyone who wasn't screaming mad would be voted down by 30 users, simply because they had a differing opinion.

Edited by: TheUnabridgedGamer