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Nov 26 2004, 10:13pm Anchor

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what if seirra wants to make it themselfs. i dont think they copyrighted it. would they have to pay that guy money to give it back to them?

sorry to bump this thread back up but i jsut found it and im really curious

leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Nov 26 2004, 10:31pm Anchor

How did the hell did that get authed :|

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Epi7aph
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Nov 26 2004, 10:37pm Anchor

Cheapy, mabey your question is Who authed it :paranoid:

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Leonardo-DiVinci
Leonardo-DiVinci UDK Megatkoyo-2041 Project
Nov 26 2004, 10:44pm Anchor

Do I smell lawyers and Legal paperwork in the horizon?

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Nov 27 2004, 9:07am Anchor

Well, whoever made it is an idiot, and he won't be successful :P If Valve wanted Opposing Force 2, they'd make it themselves.

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Jihad_Jeep
Jihad_Jeep Jeep of War
Nov 27 2004, 10:18am Anchor

It needs a coder anyway - not like anyone with any smarts (which is probably most coders) are going to join a project that in likelihood will get shut down.

btw - isn't it Gearbox that made OF - or are they a subsect of Valve? or did Valve buy them?

leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Sep 13 2006, 4:43pm Anchor

CPR for autolocking.

I'll update the first post very soon hopefully

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Oct 8 2006, 4:07pm Anchor

An update would be nice.

Blaire45
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Nov 13 2006, 8:42pm Anchor

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Nov 13 2006, 10:00pm Anchor

id software foxed Generations for Q2. They threatened to fox a Q3 style mod for HL2 unless it had some content changed (but i belive they told HOW it would be legal). I'd but their name on this list.

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rofl106
rofl106 da bomb
Nov 13 2006, 10:01pm Anchor

isn't id helping out the open source community? so why would they fox crap liek that? that would be pretty hypocritical

Wraiyth
Wraiyth That Guy Who Does Those Things With The Stuff
Nov 13 2006, 10:30pm Anchor

Not really. Open-Source and copyright are two totally different things. Its one thing to open-source an engine, but I've never seen a company open-source any assets

BlueWolf72
BlueWolf72 Mod Till Ya Die
Nov 14 2006, 1:39am Anchor

Mods get foxed all the time when they develop using IP they don't own, this is just the way it goes. Heck the term foxing comes from the Alien Doom 1 mod back in the day!

People are always well aware of the risks involved when they do this kind of project.

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ambershee
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks
Nov 14 2006, 10:33am Anchor

That's just it, they're not aware. They have the ignorant belief that so long as they're not selling anything, they're untouchable, or that the owner of the property in question won't care.

satos
satos Transformers HL2 Leader
Nov 14 2006, 11:14am Anchor

So our Transformers project can be foxed? Hmm... i dont think that Hasbro try to close us in Russia. :)

BTW, we dont have such laws. :-p

satos
satos Transformers HL2 Leader
Nov 14 2006, 11:15am Anchor

*** edit: i meant this: Moddb.com

Nov 14 2006, 11:59am Anchor
rofl106 wrote:isn't id helping out the open source community? so why would they fox crap liek that? that would be pretty hypocritical

because they don't make the content opensource, just the engine's. I'd say they are the nicest company to be foxed by because they will help you out instead of throw you in prison first. :)

BlueWolf72 wrote: Heck the term foxing comes from the Alien Doom 1 mod back in the day!

Q1 actually. I remember the announcement. Once I read that I went directly to cd-rom.com & got it. :D (it wasn't bad gameplay wise but the graphics were far from finished. Aliens Doom was so cool it couldn't be foxed! :D ).

satos wrote:So our Transformers project can be foxed? Hmm... i dont think that Hasbro try to close us in Russia. :)
BTW, we dont have such laws. :-p

You should realy keep up on current news. Russia is interested in expanding trade with the US & the US said Russia most start following US copyright law's to protect US companies. ;) And you distribute in the US & have content on US servers, so you do fall under US law (just like I couldn't go to China servers & put up anti-china content w/o them removing it from their servers)

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satos
satos Transformers HL2 Leader
Nov 14 2006, 12:14pm Anchor
TheHappyFriar wrote:You should realy keep up on current news. Russia is interested in expanding trade with the US & the US said Russia most start following US copyright law's to protect US companies. ;) And you distribute in the US & have content on US servers, so you do fall under US law (just like I couldn't go to China servers & put up anti-china content w/o them removing it from their servers)

Yes, but we still dont want to accept WTO, because of some issues... And as i said - there is no such laws in Russia. Project must be prohibited in US, but only if it will be distributed by 3rd person in US (or if i'll publish it directly).

But still... about 70% of characters will be ours, not Hasbro or Takara. That's why transformer Magnus will transform in KAMAZ, not in original hardtruck. Our mod are based on alternative story and universe. Trust me, you will never see an Optimus Prime, but Ginrai and other Japan and Russian characters - yesss... :) I dont think such mod will be foxed (anyway, there is a lot of possible alternatives, you know).

ambershee
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks
Nov 14 2006, 1:17pm Anchor

Actually, the Doom Aliens mod wasn't CnD'd to my knowledge, because of game laws being a bit of a grey area when it arrived. 3rd party content like that wasn't really expected and there wasn't much of a mod community like there is today.

As for the legal situation in Russia, I'd be careful, it doesn't just come down to "In Russian we don't have these laws", because you're messing with an internationally distributable content set, and thus it's not just governed by your laws. If you do nothing to prevent users in some countries downloading your content (which in many cases, all that is required is a warning screen telling the user that what they may be downloading may be illegal where they are), then you can still be liable.

I've seen a US mod team shut down by a Danish legal firm before, in some rather odd circumstances, so it can happen.

ekdikeo
ekdikeo Unrealscript Coder
Nov 25 2006, 5:43am Anchor

I think a huge indicator of LucasArts/Sony's changes in attitude, is that they appear to have given a greenlight to the SWG EMU project.

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ambershee
ambershee Nimbusfish Rawks
Nov 25 2006, 10:37am Anchor

Actually, that might just be an indicator that they're planning to stop operating their servers within a couple of years..

Icemage
Icemage Substance > Hype
Nov 25 2006, 10:57am Anchor
ambershee wrote:Actually, that might just be an indicator that they're planning to stop operating their servers within a couple of years..

This seems much more likely. LucasArts probably knows that SWG has been on its last legs for a while. Their decision to reconstruct the gameplay multiple times pretty much turned off even the most die-hard Star Wars fans, and I'm sure they know that they're not getting any of those players back ever again.

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ekdikeo
ekdikeo Unrealscript Coder
Nov 25 2006, 4:11pm Anchor

I don't know, a lot of people bitched and complained about it, but from what I've seen (my gf's mom plays religiously, i swear she knows everyone in the entire game personally. .. she has the fastest computer in the house, lives in our basement, and her computer only has: windows, and swg, and she hardly ever -leaves- the basement) very few people actually left.

I've looked at what the game was before the current "enhancement", and I don't think I would've wanted to play it at all before. I still don't want to play it now, but at least I could see NOW how star wars fans actually could play it. GF and GF's mom were not starwars fans when they picked it up.. they picked it up because it wasn't a fantasy MMO.

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BlueWolf72
BlueWolf72 Mod Till Ya Die
Nov 25 2006, 4:37pm Anchor

the one that baffles me is the dragon ball mod for ut got foxed and the hl one was left alone. ya the hl is called esf not dragon ball z but still the mod is about dbz

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Nov 25 2006, 6:16pm Anchor

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure ESF did get approached in the past about it, and they had to go in and change all of these things so they wouldn't get shut down. Now, they're supported by Funimation, though I'm sure they're only going to let that one go free. :)

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