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Oct 1 2004, 8:25pm Anchor

It is pretty annoying to get caught up with a C&D slap. But, more times than not, mod teams are willing to change the content needed to make their mod different than the license.

Of course, then they're labeled as rip-offs for looking like the said game :(

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leilei
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Oct 1 2004, 8:26pm Anchor
EvilFish wrote:Don't forget Games Workshop. They tend to give most mods the go-ahead, but only if you ask permission. Otherwise they'll slap you with the C&D stick without thinking twice

HOW DID I FORGET THAT >_<

GODZ managed to play like a dbz mod without totally looking like one, and the mod looks unique and stylish, and has gargoyles! Pure originality brings fresh air every time.

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Oct 1 2004, 8:28pm Anchor

Wow, it's October already? :O!

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Oct 1 2004, 8:29pm Anchor

true, true. :D

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Oct 1 2004, 8:43pm Anchor

aye, look in the stats, i'm beating Karuto for once :P

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Dragonlord
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Oct 1 2004, 8:44pm Anchor

you are quick Sajt... or did you use doubles to calculate that ? ;=)

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Oct 1 2004, 9:02pm Anchor

Let's get back on subject, peoples.

I was actually discouraged to see the Chrono Trigger Recreation project getting shut down. I was so excited to see it getting a 3D update, especially since there were rumors of the game being updated to the new consoles, but turns out it was one big lie. I hope someone out there gets away with doing it someday. It sort of ruins any of my plans to attempt to recreate a classic game :(

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frosty-theaussie
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Oct 1 2004, 9:11pm Anchor

Cheapy mate, ya should update your first post with everything people have suggested so first-time readers get it all in one hit ;)

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INtense!
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Oct 1 2004, 9:13pm Anchor

It sucks that these mods are been closed down by the money hungry corporates but the truth at the end of the day which is what worries these corporates is that more often than not the mod mimicing their game is better than the original.

and thats a scary prospect for them!

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leilei
leilei The person who doesn't like anything
Oct 1 2004, 9:15pm Anchor
frosty-theaussie wrote:Cheapy mate, ya should update your first post with everything people have suggested so first-time readers get it all in one hit ;)

I wills but I must sleeps nows!

I did make a thread like this last year about Marvel's foxinations but someone apparenlty removed it and thought it'd be useless

But yeah copyright infringement is what angers me the most about mods so i'll have to do something to act upon that than rag on every thread

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Epi7aph
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Oct 1 2004, 9:15pm Anchor

aye
"Oh noes some little dick made this mod better than we made it lets shut it down"

they should make a huge patch :P

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arghvark
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Oct 1 2004, 9:45pm Anchor

Games Workshop/Warhammer 40k are pretty liberal I think, as long as you stress it is a fan work. But then again they have computer games now, so who knows....

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Oct 1 2004, 9:52pm Anchor

The main reasons why the companys shut down these mods is because people can go buy the game that the mod is for, and then get the mod. Your basically getting 2 games in one see?

I'm all for Games Workshops course of action (C&D if no permission is asked for). If I was going to make a mod based on a game or anything, I would of course ask for permission before attempting to get a good start on it.

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ShadowDragon
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Oct 1 2004, 10:17pm Anchor

It's funny when a couple of people over the net can make a much better mod then some big multi million dollar company can make the original game :P

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Vangor
Vangor Depravity Inclined Egotistical Savior
Oct 1 2004, 10:41pm Anchor

Well shadow, that is because the few people over the net drive with talent and commitment, the company drives with money, sure they may hire a few somewhat talented people but, I've never seen a "game design college graduate" that could impress me, while I'm half startled at the skills of the general community. Companies run on the basis of money, work schedules, audience targetting, so on, that interferes. Plus, modifications are not as interested in developing new features for engines as much as new features in gameplay, people still play Half-Life modifications, CS, DoD, TS, and of course Natural-Selection stands as a great example of innovative gameplay.

Anyway, I respect intellectual properties, the Wheel of Time I'm sort of hinting at now, I began with a lengthy message to Tor Fantasy asking if it would be alright and giving a fair synopsis, as well as "negotiating" with them as to why it would be a good idea to let us do it, it doesn't cost them anything, we won't be handing out their products, and we will produce a title that will get more fanbase to them, its the most cost effective business tactic available. Of course, were I to merely begin making it and going off on our own tangent without them, it wouldn't be recieved nearly as well.

Lots of companies don't enjoy little infringements on their properties, most of all video game development companies, it supposedly turns people away from their own sales. Plus, you need to understand, they most often consider modifications to be a child's hobby sort of thing, so, they'd see it as a negative to have others working on those properties.

Dragonlord
Dragonlord Linux-Dragon of quick wit and sharp tongue
Oct 2 2004, 7:26am Anchor

well shadowy... this is the big world of open source... and with this i don't mean the mod having it's source open, i talk of the spirit behind it... and this spirit drowns companies if it has to.

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STRATCOM
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Oct 2 2004, 7:15pm Anchor

well when/if I finish the book that I am writting you can make all the mods you want based on it. I think it would help sales of it.

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Oct 2 2004, 8:03pm Anchor

This definitely should be a sticky topic, or someone should make a tutorial about the dangers of Copyright infringement. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it.

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Dragonlord
Dragonlord Linux-Dragon of quick wit and sharp tongue
Oct 2 2004, 8:05pm Anchor

yep... especially those taking on ideas of others (don't get me wrong, it's not an attack) insetad of coming up with their own ones.

using characters/stories of companies is a very dangerous thing. be better creative and you stay away from this all.

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GAMESOULjA
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Oct 2 2004, 8:54pm Anchor

sticky this please :)

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Oct 2 2004, 8:56pm Anchor

Just make a list of all the companies that don't like you taking their ideas and make that a new sticky post instead of having one like this, which has instances of spam, be slapped to the top of the forums :P And, only let people add more companies, and delete the posts that either spam or don't contribute to it.

Edited by: Karuto

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Oct 2 2004, 8:59pm Anchor

Stickied. :)

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Oct 2 2004, 9:00pm Anchor

Ok, ignore me, then. LoL

Edited by: Karuto

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chis
chis Old man.
Oct 2 2004, 9:31pm Anchor

I think he read your post and decided maybe :paranoid:

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ShadowDragon
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Oct 2 2004, 10:06pm Anchor

Heh you can also make all the mods you want off of my brother's book once he's done :P Sure he won't mind O_o

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