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Oct 23 2007, 3:57pm Anchor

Thanks. It's a helicopter crashing into a building, I'm gonna have to make it more obvious. Thanks for the input guys, greatly appreciated. ^^ Also about the Chaos Warrior thing, the biggest thing I'd say you need to change is the horns to eradicate that similarity. Maybe you could have the horns pointed straight up, instead of like a bulls horns, or have them overly jagged (remember, sharp shapes = cruel and imposing), and a LOT of sharp edges. you could even go as far as making them antlers (don't get carried away though). Basically, what you have already is starting to step into the world of fantasy, your painting isn't bound by many rules of reality when it comes to appearance, it's stylized... so there's nothing stopping you from making the horns into something that would usually be unfeasible. I tried drawing an example for the horns as to what I was trying to explain, but in a 5 second sketch it's hard to capture, it'd take quite a bit of work to get a cool, evil, unique design, but the horns in this pic are one of the main selling points of your character, so it'd be worth the work. Hope this helps!

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Oct 23 2007, 4:08pm Anchor

Helicopter in building... 8/11 style o.=.O

I need to find a working scanner for my stuff :/

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Oct 23 2007, 5:25pm Anchor

Zenarion: it does look like a chaos knight :S

operation _sleepwalk:

Quote:because the consumer knows nothing about the process only the result

heh. I doubt anyone will actually take the trouble to do 3d now anyway. A month is hardly enough time to make the models, texture them, and arrange them into a scene. and it will still probably end up looking lacking :P i still don't understand why people think 3d is easier than 2d cg or trad art. Trust me, it's not. UV unwrapping alone bores me to tears, and texturing requires creativity, lots of it. art is art. just because it was made by computer calculations doesn't mean it didn't come from the imagination of its creator.

however, people might incorporate 3d elements into their concepts. I definitely won't, given how hard it is to merge 3d and 2d assets without it being glaringly obvious :) I'm going 2d all the way but I might use mockup renders to make shadows cast and lighting more realistic.

BlightedArt:

Quote:Hey everyone. I'm really not sure if people are going to give constructive criticism here, because this' a competition after all

:P i agree lol. hmmm... posting snippets is a good idea! lol. i was deliberately holding back some parts of the scene myself. I think I'll post snippets too after the last one, if it's alright :P People seeing your works in progress puts you in danger of the idea being nabbed, the style being imitated, or people getting jaded from seeing your work too much. :S hmmm... I wonder how many artists are out there doing their work without posting here at all. They prolly got smashing good stuff too, lol. i dunno :P

from what i could see of that snippet of yours... looks like an urban scene. noice. :) on the explosion... i think you got the colors right. jet fuel burns fiercely, so the fireball's right. building needs to show damage too imo - glass and debris flying at back, windows blowing out, etc.
also, imho, the length of the trails of falling burning debris looks out of place - judging from the fireball, this is the exact moment the copter collides and explodes, right? the burning rain and the smoke comes afterwards, methinks. anyways, just my two cents. ^^ hope it helps

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Oct 23 2007, 6:04pm Anchor

Seeing that 3d art will be accepted, im not going to switch from hand-drawn to 3d, but, ill do something intresting invloving mixing them in a way some of you may not expect :D

Good luck to all, and btw heli+building= good idea :)

I want one of them A-51's :p
But then again, so does everyone else...

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Oct 23 2007, 10:26pm Anchor

i wasnt insulting 3d artists or saying that its in anyway different in terms of skill i ride the very strange and narrow fence of being a great enthusist(<whatever) blah and technical design of mechanical pieces and the free flow of general conceptualizing
heres something i just made goofing around
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and here are some more submission samples i know only one is allowed but i do a couple then make my friends pick

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Oct 23 2007, 11:10pm Anchor

im also gonna be doing as many as i could and have my friends pick, lol.

yep, 3d is a great way of studying shadows cast and interpreting it into 2d. I'm actually making a shadow study right now on max. and it's going horribly lol. my perpective's skewed. hehe. have to correct it.

awesome sketches btw. is this gonna be the race of that previous drawing of yours?

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Oct 23 2007, 11:21pm Anchor

umm 3d hey, put my pc over there ill collect it later. ;)

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Oct 23 2007, 11:45pm Anchor

lol, TKAzA, you joining? :)

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Oct 24 2007, 12:35am Anchor

hello, i've done 3 quick sketches gonna pick one, don't wanna clog up the thread so post em as links

alien experiment:
Rixx.deviantart.com

alien experiment:
Rixx.deviantart.com

and chemical man:
Rixx.deviantart.com

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TKAzA
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Oct 24 2007, 12:54am Anchor

Not now ive seen your DA page AStepIntoOblivion... Your pc is over there!

Gah infact... I will join in.... I like loosing at stuff.

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Oct 24 2007, 1:02am Anchor

Rixx your stuff is rad, so much so, I sent you a drunk PM!

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Oct 24 2007, 1:06am Anchor

o.O

Rixx... love your imagination man! jawdropping awesome! ^^ i know you'll probably do all 3, but i like the first one most just because i'm squeamish and the other two are so graphic, LOL.

TKAzA: aw come on. LOL. I'm not doin 3d at all :) just as my journal entry says - this is my first time at digital painting! it's a bit touch and go for me now. ;)

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Plinkotink
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Oct 24 2007, 1:15am Anchor

Crap im on the fence here.. ive got my idea, but i dont know if I want to put teh effort into making it for the next 20 days. hmm
stuffs lookn great tho every one.

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Thestjester
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Oct 24 2007, 3:12am Anchor

Hey guys!
Here's a rough draft on my concept:
(Yet to add the line work, and render in colours)

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Oct 24 2007, 4:21am Anchor

whoa! another fearsome contender! loved your creature concepts! welcome thestjester/coinpurse and good luck! ^^

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Oct 24 2007, 4:26am Anchor

ok, here's my mock-up to get the shadows on my work right. im still inexperienced when it comes to shadows and perspective :(
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Oct 24 2007, 5:25am Anchor

Waahh, I so want to enter this but I don't have the time to work on anything :(.

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SinKing
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Oct 24 2007, 5:46am Anchor
AStepIntoOblivion wrote: im still inexperienced when it comes to shadows and perspective :(
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good thing is to buy a beginners guide to pencil drawing. Won't be unexperienced for long and perspective is actually a pretty simple thing, once you understand how to handle it. Your drawings will look expressive and correct, without much a do (like without making a whole scene in 3ds just to check the shadows...)

Yeah, I know - lots of concepts here, no mindless banter, but I don't have time to draw and I love reading my own stuff. Over and over again. Mock Coy

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Dragonlord
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Oct 24 2007, 8:27am Anchor

Btw, drawing in 2D has other rules for perspectives and shadows. Hence a 2D drawing derived from a 3D looks crap in 99% of cases. This is because in 2D you can "cheat" at perspective and shadows to make something look better.

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Oct 24 2007, 8:42am Anchor

@SinKing: if i had money i would. lol. anyways i can do persp and lighting by hand, its just that when the scene gets complicated that my mind needs help.
@Dragonlord: yep, agree. im actually going to cheat on the shadows and perspective for this. :) the 3d doesnt exactly match the scene i had in mind. hehe. hope it doesnt look awkward tho. im not basing the drawing on 3d, :P It's just a general blocking of buildings so i can get the idea of the general direction and depth of shadows and light. Especially since mine is in daylight. much harder to make it look believable than a dark setting. :S

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Pr0stSh0cKeR
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Oct 24 2007, 10:18am Anchor

I have a question regarding landscape:
Is it alright to model it after a real-life cityscape?
Cheers! -prats

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Oct 24 2007, 10:35am Anchor

Finally managed to scan in my crappy little drawing. It's nowhere finished yet and I don't know if I manage to ( next to no time available currently ). I went with noir in the sense of dark/shadows/shady making my own interpretation of a Master Thief.

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Oct 24 2007, 6:10pm Anchor

another question:

do we get to have captions on our concept art? much like how operation_sleepwalk described his?

i was thinking along the lines of:

Description of the picture
Background History of the Proposed game world
Plot of the game
Gameplay proposal

or do we just let the pictures speak for themselves?

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bugsport
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Oct 24 2007, 7:22pm Anchor

Ive done my thumbnails and early sketches of the work. mines going to be a traditional, watercolour paining
but whay are so many people doing doom and gloom concept art. Mine's bright and colourfull,and designed like old goldenage scifi art

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Oct 24 2007, 10:02pm Anchor

Your picture can have a title, but don't put it on the image. It can also have a background story but it may not be displayed

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