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Sep 9 2008, 3:08am Anchor

in kingdom hearts cloud says that Sepiroth is connected to him but would that be ture in the FF universe?

Sep 12 2008, 12:27am Anchor

Um, have you ever played Final Fantasy VII? They are connected. lawl

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Sep 12 2008, 1:06am Anchor
Karuto wrote:Um, have you ever played Final Fantasy VII? They are connected. lawl


In all fairness the part in FF7 that explains the true connection between Cloud and Sephiroth is kinda confusing

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Sep 12 2008, 4:09am Anchor

lol i never played ff7 fully (like 1 min or so) and i even knew that
hell, even my gf that never played a final fantasy game knows that

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Sep 12 2008, 6:59pm Anchor

Cloud and sephiroth are connect by an encounter in the past where cloud kills sephiroth. Once killed cloud (and zack) are both placed into an experimental program infusing the both of them with cells from sephiroth/Jenova (S cells) Cloud is the only one whoes cells react correctly tho. bassically because of the cells sephiroth and cloud share the same ....something lets say spirit.
Im pretty sure thats right, but its definatly clear that they share a connection, its made extreamly clear in FF7 and thrown in your face in Crisis Core.

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Sep 12 2008, 7:55pm Anchor

yes but that doesn't mean cloud can't move on in the future or face the light in KH2 it's like the one winged angel took his feelings(or a heartless got him)

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Sep 12 2008, 11:14pm Anchor
tnathan475 wrote:
Karuto wrote:Um, have you ever played Final Fantasy VII? They are connected. lawl


In all fairness the part in FF7 that explains the true connection between Cloud and Sephiroth is kinda confusing


Plinkotink wrote:Cloud and sephiroth are connect by an encounter in the past where cloud kills sephiroth. Once killed cloud (and zack) are both placed into an experimental program infusing the both of them with cells from sephiroth/Jenova (S cells) Cloud is the only one whoes cells react correctly tho. bassically because of the cells sephiroth and cloud share the same ....something lets say spirit.
Im pretty sure thats right, but its definatly clear that they share a connection, its made extreamly clear in FF7 and thrown in your face in Crisis Core.

Thank you for making my point, haha.

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Sep 13 2008, 9:32am Anchor

I always thought Cloud was an altered clone of Zack, meaning Cloud never really had a proper past-life, but he goes on as Zack's 'future' or something...

Or is that true?..that Cloud is just an altered clone of Zack(which has blonde hair instead of black).

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Sep 13 2008, 3:10pm Anchor
MadKill40 wrote:I always thought Cloud was an altered clone of Zack, meaning Cloud never really had a proper past-life, but he goes on as Zack's 'future' or something...

Or is that true?..that Cloud is just an altered clone of Zack(which has blonde hair instead of black).


Cloud pretty much assumes Zack's identity in the story he tells in the beginning of the game about him (cloud), sephiroth and tifa at the reactor in the past. Cloud was in fact never in Soldier, he was just an ordinary grunt, Zack was the one in Soldier. Essentially Cloud assumes a false persona around build Zack and his behavior.

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Sep 14 2008, 3:00am Anchor

ah...makes sense. Thanks dude.

So Cloud had a Past but it got over-written with Zacks basically.
So, erm, lol...Cloud doesn't actually know where he is from or anything then?..nor does he care XD

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Sep 14 2008, 10:28am Anchor
MadKill40 wrote:ah...makes sense. Thanks dude.

So Cloud had a Past but it got over-written with Zacks basically.
So, erm, lol...Cloud doesn't actually know where he is from or anything then?..nor does he care XD


He knows (or rather he discovers it as the game progresses) basically it was a big coverup by Shinra to hide the massacre caused by Sephiroth at clouds/tifas hometown

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Sep 15 2008, 3:00am Anchor

yet sepiroth got beaten by sora who was rumored to have some family resemablence to cloud

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Sep 15 2008, 5:46am Anchor

Well you probably shouldn't bring the KH world into the FF world. granted they share the characters, but in the grand scheme of things the FF stories and the KH stories are separate.

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Sep 16 2008, 2:28am Anchor

well if i see sora around in the upcomming FF cameo then ill laugh

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Sep 16 2008, 7:48am Anchor

if a cameo is presentthen it doesent mean it has something to do with the story :s
example: doom marine in duke3d

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Sep 17 2008, 9:35pm Anchor
tnathan475 wrote:
MadKill40 wrote:ah...makes sense. Thanks dude.

So Cloud had a Past but it got over-written with Zacks basically.
So, erm, lol...Cloud doesn't actually know where he is from or anything then?..nor does he care XD


He knows (or rather he discovers it as the game progresses) basically it was a big coverup by Shinra to hide the massacre caused by Sephiroth at clouds/tifas hometown


but Tifa's hometown wasn't Cloud's hometown, it was Zacks...so...erm...O_o

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Sep 17 2008, 11:35pm Anchor

Tifas home town is indeed clouds home town. Zacks home town is Gongaza or gongala something like that. Tifa and Cloud both grow up in Nibleheim.

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Oct 4 2008, 12:23am Anchor
Plinkotink wrote:Tifas home town is indeed clouds home town. Zacks home town is Gongaza or gongala something like that. Tifa and Cloud both grow up in Nibleheim.

but in FF7 Tifa explains that it wasn't Cloud...or was that just Septhiroth confusing the f'ck out of Cloud to make him think it was Zack and not him?..Did Cloud originally have black hair to?..or WAS it Zack?..damn this annoying history!

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Oct 4 2008, 1:12pm Anchor

There were 4 shinra that came to nibleheim. One random guy, sepiroth, zack and cloud. Cloud has his mask on for the whole time but is there. Cloud was always there but ashamed to show his face since he didnt make soldier. During the first flash back where cloud tells the story of what happend 5 years ago, cloud THINKS that he was zack because the both went through the same experiment. Sephiroth doesnt start controlling cloud till much later.
and no cloud alwaysed looked like cloud :P

anyway to wrap it up, where you say Tifa explains that it wasnt cloud, that is correct. there were onl two guys there that were soldier first class. Sephiroth and Zack. then there were two pions. one faceless guy and Cloud.

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Oct 5 2008, 10:27am Anchor

this thread is making me wish Final Fantasy VII for PC worked on XP with a 8800gts, which it definitely does not....:dead:

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Oct 5 2008, 10:42am Anchor
tnathan475 wrote:this thread is making me wish Final Fantasy VII for PC worked on XP with a 8800gts, which it definitely does not....:dead:

Just get a PS1 Emulator and get FFVII :D

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Oct 5 2008, 1:33pm Anchor

Its true, OF COURSE that is if you already own a copy :D

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Oct 5 2008, 6:37pm Anchor
MadKill40 wrote:
tnathan475 wrote:this thread is making me wish Final Fantasy VII for PC worked on XP with a 8800gts, which it definitely does not....:dead:

Just get a PS1 Emulator and get FFVII :D


Yeah but then i can't use the mods

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