City Havoc: An Organized Crime Mod Thread

Hi, I am currently looking for a full set of team members, I have a 2d artist, PR guy, and 2 mappers but Ofcourse all slots are open (except PR). Before I go on let me tell you more about the mod City Havoc. It is based on modern Organized crime. But the game will not be just your regular TDM. Instead the city will have civilians, infact you start out as one. From there you can choose to either join 1 of 2 gangs (or more depending on map size) or freelance between the two. Each gang will have there own garage and armory and will gather the goods by getting shops/business to pay protection money. The more shops you own, the more of the city you own, and the more of that the more money, money leads to good things. For one it pays off the cars needed to do your deals in the game, and aswell it'll buy the guns for the gang. All this is decided by the Gangs boss.

Every game starts with peace and ends with a victory. When I say Peace I truely mean peace. Either gangs wouldn't jepordise getting the attention of the police untill they could payoff such things. The conflict will begin generally if two gangs want to claim a shop/business for protection money. Also shops may not be so willing to allow you to "protect them" so harassment may insue with the use of drive bys and what not.

Bascially without giving too much away this is how the game will be played....

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Open Postitions (ALL OF THEM)

Modelers (Guns all the way down to cars, and helis)

Mappers (Cities)

Coders (AI at first will be that of HL2s I have ideas of doing the basic theme of the game...We shall discuss.)

2d artist (Modern stuff)

Sound Artist (Basic sounds)

Webdesigner (Ofcourse)

and All of the above. As always any other contributions are needed and praised.

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#cityhavoc on gamesurge if you are interested

A HALF LIFE 2 MP MOD

Edited by: Crimsonghost

Isn't this sort of like the game that was released not too long ago, Gangland? You started off really small, and then you got a mission from the boss where you slowly start to control the city until you become the mob boss?

What kind of innovative new gameplay styles do you have in mind for a game such as this?

In fact, that's basically identical to Gangland except for a few minor things.

I hope, as Karuto noted, you have significant gameplay features in mind.

Edited by: CyanideCotdPnuts

Damn, i've never heard of gang land is it a hl2 mp game aswell?
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EDIT: hehehe googled gang land. Doesn't look like my kinda game, no City Havoc (which is a better name than gang land ) will be quite differnt. For one it will be first person as well as 3rd peson there will be duel wielding of the weapons. exp: berretta with a shotgun, yet no duel wielding with gus like Desert Eagles... The freelancing is quite a big differnce. It being a multiplayer mod for hl2 is a huge differnce...

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sombody is already working on somthing like this for hl2. I suggest you contact guitardork@comcast.net

i like the way it sounds but yeah, play the other one and see what you can improve

Ehm...so what unique gameplay systems are there?It sounds exactly like Gangland, except you want 1st person.Mind you, Gangland also supports multiplayer.

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i think third person makes a game harder to play, but thats my opninion, first person style GTA would be fun

Well the 3rd person perspective in Gangland is more of a Bird's Eye view, somewhat similar to warcraft.It's actually quite easy if you've played Warcraft or WH40k:DoW.

so its more like the good ol' GTA2?

Well don't take me for a jibber because I didn't even know of gangland till you all told me about. But let me ask a few questions. In gangland do you have to harass on cooperating shop owners to get them to pay protection money? Does the business depend on how much money you roll in? Do Gangs have armories and garages? Can you duel wield weapons in the mod? Can you free lance between gangs? Can you jack npc cars? Are there cops? Is there day time and night time in the game so that night time will be the prefered time of killing? are there helicopters? Do you start out as a civilian? do you gain territory by gaining shops to get protection money from?

and I also wrote this up (it is included in the design sheet) this'll give you a taste of the gameplay.

So you join a game. By holding Tab you see the server is quite full (the players list nothing more, no showing two teams or what not.) You walk out of your apartment building and notice two strangers run past you. As you proceed outside the apartment a cop car zooms past you chasing another speeding vehicle. Walking along the streets of this town you notice that Havoc is imminent. You walk past a deli and get ambushed by two men asking you if you’re interested in a Gang. You un-knowingly accept and are greeted with guns as well as a car. But the car is full of other people and “business” has to be taken care of, the boss tells you. You get in the back seat and notice a blip is shown on your map. The driver seems to know where to go. The city drive is quick and you get greeted by bullets as you slowly drive by a pizzeria. With Glock in hand you let off some rounds as your fellow gang members do the same. Then drive off. The job has been done one gang member says.

After that and a few other jobs, the doe starts rolling in. and you seem to encounter some insane fellows that do your Bosses job with little care for there own life (freelancers) Pretty soon the surrounding town seemed at peace. And life was good, till one job of course.

You take a long drive to the other side of town to gain more protection money when you notice two cars parked, seeming to wait for you. You stop the car and leap out with a AK47 in hand as your gang members in the car do the same as a shower of bullets hit the car. You pop off a few rounds whilst the car explodes in a horrific site. One man yells “Cover Fire” Over the mic as he lobs a grenade over at the cars and enemy gang members. You give the covering fire and in a mere second the both cars explode in a pounding roar as the bodies fly out from the sheer force. You think to yourself, this is just the beginning…

Because the length of one game is quite long I wont go through it all but that’s quite a nice taste if you ask me .

Crimsonghost wrote: Well In gangland do you have to harass on cooperating shop owners to get them to pay protection money? Does the business depend on how much money you roll in? Do Gangs have armories and garages? Can you duel wield weapons in the mod? Can you free lance between gangs? Can you jack npc cars? Are there cops? Is there day time and night time in the game so that night time will be the prefered time of killing? are there helicopters? Do you start out as a civilian? do you gain territory by gaining shops to get protection money from?

First of all, Gangland is not a mod.

Second,everything you stated there is in Gangland except maybe helicopters, reason being they'd be useless.

In fact, in order to progress through the game you have to expand business by extorting or buying out small businesses not under your control.The difference between the two is that extortion only gets you 25% of income, while buying out gets you 50% and additional area to post bodyguards.What's good about Gangland is that you can own a safehouse (or two), you can hire civilians to work as bodyguards,get married, have children,extort,murder,and even blow up buildings.Actually, my personal favorite is doing drive bys.Also, the hookers with acid spray....ROFFLE.

Edited by: CyanideCotdPnuts

Can you pay the cops to turned a blind eye?

Meh, sometimes games/mods are based on the same thing (take Rainbow Six and Counter Strike) but I truely believe the mod will be something refreshing and new to the hl2 mod community.

yes, you can pay them off.In fact, you have to very often otherwise they shoot the place up like Amityville.

Mhmm...Well take my word for it I never have heard of gangland till you told me. So you can duel wield in gangland too? By the way above you said you hoped I had significant gameplay features, well it being first person+third person is a huge gameplay change imo aswell the physics of source add a nice touch.

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If you're trying to make this game entirely based upon graphics you should probably consider taking up another hobby .By gameplay features, we mean unique in-game features/systems that will set this different from Gangland.And yes, dual wield is also in gangland, only with certain weapons though.

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=/ No the mod is not based on graphics. I'm telling you, when I was writing this stuff up in the design sheet I did not know of the Gangland game. In fact it first was suppose to be a 1920s Mafia style game but team members thought modern organized crime was a better step and I was out numbered on the decision. If I knew of ganglands whilst I was making the design sheet I would've stopped and made a mod completely differnt becuase that's just the way I am. But stopping just becuase another game offers something similar is what stopped my last project, and again I did not know of its exsistence till someone pointed it out. But I really like MY idea (yes it is my own) and am sticking with it even if someone goes on and tries to make another mod that is based off the same thing. Sorry if the mod does not interest you becuase you think it's a Gangland ripoff but that is, of course, your opinion.

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Gangland isn't first-person shooter, it's an isometric tactical/strategy game, like a cross between Transport Tycoon and X-COM.

Before you go jumping to conclusions, I didn't say "quite your mod, it sucks and is a complete ripoff". I said what you need to do is alter your ideas slightly and add in some unique gameplay factors in order to make it not a ripoff.

Step back for a second and take a look at every single game that you can remember distinctively playing.Now, first question is --why do you remember playing this game?The answer lies within what I'm trying to tell you:

Unique gameplay.

If you read into things hard enough, or not even hard at all, you will realize that each game has their own special something that makes the game...well...the game.What you need to do is talk to your folks there, or maybe head over to Gamedev or CGtalk, post in the forums about suggestions to further enhance the uniqueness, and then make the changes.Trust me, every good mod that went somewhere had to make many changes before becoming what it is today.The reason I didn't suggest posting in these forums is because (no offense) but most of the ideas revolve around either Counter-Strike or DBZ.Yikes.

Also Frosty, I know Gangland isn't FPS :p.I was noting that it wouldn't be too great of a change,at least one worthy of completely redoing the game over.

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"Before you go jumping to conclusions, I didn't say "quite your mod, it sucks and is a complete ripoff". I said what you need to do is alter your ideas slightly and add in some unique gameplay factors in order to make it not a ripoff."

Heh whatever man.

I wouldn't go there if I were you.

and what exactly are you gona doa bout it pnuts ? Just to bring you some much needed relieft, your alraedy unique by making this mod a fps - nothing like this exists in that particulair format.

Also i think you bring up a good point with the rainbow 6 and cs comparison. On that note however i might advise you start out with a super organized deisng plan with the minor details first and major changes last as this will be one hellova task to pull off especially considering your team consisits of a pr guy and a concept artists both of which are pretty much useless positions (cant really immagine how much you can do with the concept art being a concept artist myself). The mappers dont count either (unless they are some renown ones) because apparently pretty much everybody on the internet seems to be a mapper. At any rate start small and slowly build up.

I love how you're so immature to always enter threads that I've responded in with a stick up your ass.Grow up.

Anyway, being an FPS doesn't make anything unique.All it does is provide the exact same gameplay with the difference being you're in first person.That isn't going to get alot of people interested, rest assured.If you can secure some fine points that set this aside from Ganglang,Mafia,(insert organized crime game titles here) then you'll be in good shape.I would suggest,however, that you sit down with your folks and look more in-depth at your game and other organized crime games.

CyanideCotdPnuts wrote: I love how you're so immature to always enter threads that I've responded in with a stick up your ass.Grow up.

Anyway, being an FPS doesn't make anything unique.All it does is provide the exact same gameplay with the difference being you're in first person.That isn't going to get alot of people interested, rest assured.If you can secure some fine points that set this aside from Ganglang,Mafia,(insert organized crime game titles here) then you'll be in good shape.I would suggest,however, that you sit down with your folks and look more in-depth at your game and other organized crime games.

Damn man, what crawled up your ass and died? Anyway, like i said before, contact guitardork dude, this is already being done for hl2, they could use the ideas and such.

Damn, sorry for you crimson, I can tell you put alot of effort into this.