TPC_beta_v0.8.7_FULL file

Same requirements as the older versions: admin, compatibility mode and delete my docs/TheProtectors.

Runs perfectly if you do this.

Crash at Startup. Running on win xp sp3. Deleted docs/The Protector also did not solve the problem.

did you replace any files? How did you instal this?

I did not replace anything. I installed using the exe provided after extracting all content of the zip file to a folder.

What's the OS?

@JoeTheBartender Windows XP SP3

I have two way for you, the first is press the Alt+enter when as fast as the picture become black, you might enter, and change the resolution for your computer.
The second is completely delete the 0.86, and use the Regedit.exe to delete the old 'The protectors' file. GOOD luck to you^^

I'm not sure what is wrong at his end, because I've got WBC1 (1999 version), WBC3 1.03, TPC 0.8.6, TPC 0.8.7 dev (experimental), TPC 0.8.7 (this one, the public version) and current development version. All of them work just fine in win 10 and 7.

I have also 0.8.7 and 0.8.6 in a very old pc with 1024 res and both work with win xp. So... Bad installation maybe?

For anyone experiencing this issue,
I solved it on W7 64bit by changing the installation directory, do not use the default.

But i dont have snow ;(
only mud

Of course these are just little things your job is magnificient really like it.

I would like every unit's abilities to increase as they level up. Something I and Jodwin said years ago was how useful a builder would be from your retinue if their build skill increased as they leveled up.

So adding an Ancient Wisp to your retinue would then have bonuses for leveling it up, as apposed to now where you only get penalties since it only costs more ASP and brings nothing more to the battle.

Would be very cool.

I think Doom Knights were supposed to require the T5 deathkeep along with the Liche? Might've been something that was lost in the dev doc.

That would be better of course but they are acessible at same time as dread knights at level four keep

According to building.cfg, Liches require Black Library and a level 5 Deathkeep (T5), while Cultists require only the Black Library (T4).

Doom Knights require Cages, Black Library, Altar of Shadows and Barrow (T4) while Dreadknights require just the Cages (T4).

Hmmm - Dreadknights and Doom Knights do indeed appear in the same tier.

It is unevitable ^_^

Don't get me wrong though, the rest of the patch changes aswell as previous patches are overall all really nice, and i appreciate your work. :)

Both spellcasters and warriors regenerate less HP/MP. It's harder to regenerate in general. In the next version, we will be tweaking it and making it a bit easier to regenerate. As MP is many times more powerful than HP, I would not expect to see 1MP per second except on particularly high level heroes. MP regeneration will never have as high a rate as HP regeneration. TPC doesn't have the same level scaling as vanilla WBC3. TPC hero level 30 is about equal to a vanilla hero level 50. All skills become accessed by level 20, and the XP requirement has changed a bit too (it's a little harder at higher levels and then after ~lvl 20 it becomes much harder. However, the hero gains a lot more XP each game, especially when killing titans).

Spell level 4 is considered top level by hero level 20. Most heroes around or under that level are at spell level 3. Access to spells will most likely change in future versions too. Atm it requires a point in the previous spell to get the same level of the next spell. This will probably change, so that spellcasters only get the spells they want to build with (rather than having to waste points on what are almost 'dud' spells). Along with that change, spellcaster point investment will likely decrease a little.

Spellcasters requiring more points to perform their spells is generally true, but do not forget the spells' effects or the Summon Mana research. They can be used extremely efficiently, such as group healing, buff or debuff spells. They also have loads of spells this version which all completely destroy warriors, warlocks and even armies. They just need a little support to do so.

We are coming up with a fix for early game warrior rushes for new versions. Freeze Magic cannot be cast except by an item (Frozen Key), which will likely become rarer, more valuable and a bit weaker due to its combo with fighters. Some races get more access to hero spellcasting research in this version, which does put bias into the hero creation system. This will also be fixed next version.

The regen rates change doesn't appear to be listed... it's a changelog bug! Thanks for your input, this has been logged in the dev doc.

Not to mention that spellcasters can attack from a distance too with the magery stuff (I usually change weapons when necessary and my summoner level 30 kills enormous amounts of units with random items!).

if you replace the one with the blue wolf, it also fixes another crash in the menu. Other than that I cannot crash in 0.8.7 and have played 100's of hours. There might be a problem with higher AI's (not considering items or nature spell) but that is something I am trying to catch for years now.

I've just had this one at a lan party! Yikes!

It's not too bad though, so long as a menu option is chosen before a random video is run.

Have you got the original WBC3 campaign installed? I've heard this bug triggers when you fight a battle in the wastes.

It can't be released legally. It requires an NDA to view the code.

silly me...thank you Patrick ! the game starts properly now ( i had to re download the file though ) run as administrator , 16 bits color , xp compatibility SP3 just as you said and.. it works !
Now i have another question if you don't mind , there is a "patcher" application which i don't know if have to run it or not , because when i tried to run it , it was so fast that i didn't see anything but a glimpse of a new window?
Thank you again for the hard work !

alright thank you again !